meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Almost looks like AI! 😂
Just an old guy trying to watch out for everyone else...
7,188 followers 9,165 following 757 posts
view profile on Bluesky meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Almost looks like AI! 😂
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
The only place that will take effect is DC, and in whatever mewling "red state" that wants to suck his Johnson...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
This is the culmination of 165 years of "the South WILL rise again!" It is also proof that letting traitors go unpunished will bite you in the ass at some point.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
This would actually be an awesome idea. It would be great to have sources inside the US along with UKs NHS, Canada's NIHR, or Australia's NHMRC etc to get vaccine and health advice from in English. At this point, the FDA, the CDC, and the NIH are suspected of passing politics as health information.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I have been wondering about this, but it seems clear to me that they will not do it. They refuse to fight, Jeffries and Schumer need to go because they, like most of the Dem establishment, think funding primary challenges for MAGA crazies and trying to peel away MAGA voters is the path to victory.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I thought you were going to say none of these places are safe from ICE raids... 😂
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
youtu.be/AkKo1_RP_0c?...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Boring, mediocre, stupid, lazy, old, military, and "wrong on the Internet" right? Okay got it, 7 insults over and over to my... ZERO insults. Seems fair 😀
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I am still trying to figure out why how I use the word is wrong. Just call me stupid and move on already.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
What is your beef with that one word? I use forte, mate, and others that are not common US words but it doesn't take their meaning away.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
But you said it is NZ and Australia before, color me more confused.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Yes they are "bots" and to use them in the present would be "botting" why are you so stuck on this? You already said repeatedly that I am stupid, give the insults a rest. For people who reportedly are trying to reduce toxic behavior online you are contributing to it a lot. Dissent is not an insult.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Nope, I went to the Miriam Webster site directly. Believe it or not I made that with my own device, I didn't find it on Blue Sky and repost it. I searched in their search too.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
If you look back she knows what lists I am talking about. The unverified following over 5k and 7k automated lists.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Not mad, she stepped in with a ton of information. The person who curates the list worked with me and yet for some reason I am still being dragged over making a single point that I have not seen support for & that is: following many people spreads misinformation. It only exposes me.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
A four second search for "define botting" yields results referring to bots as a software that does something automated usually at a high speed, such as a sneaker bot. Srsly?!?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
If you look at my original posts you can see that my issue are these "automated" lists. I am refer to this as botting. I sincerely don't know what you are getting on about with this line of criticism. I was never talking about the data she sent or her activities. I took exception to using list bots.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
At least she took the time to look through my posts, most of the screenshots I share I made myself when looking for stuff, not screens from Blue Sky. I even found a few to confirm if a post was real from Twitter lol. I shot and cropped almost all of them.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Yes, and this is one of them, referring to software that is in simple terms a "bot" and its actions can be referred to as "botting" 😂 weird take on something that is as simple as "you know what I mean..."
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
😂 sure thing...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Generally speaking I reply and make new posts, and almost never retweet or hashtag anything. I am not using the platform as the "source" for what I do post. Usually I check it elsewhere if I am trying to post something I think is important to talk about or just interesting to me.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I sincerely wish you actually felt that way. Because if you did you would have answered my questions with something other than telling me that when all the unwashed masses came to Blue Sky it changed in some negative way.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Yes, and they do not advise it, been in convo with them, you added me to ones that are derogatory. Still not sure what warrants all the insults and stereotyping. But if punching down is your thing when someone questions you so be it. I am almost down with the bulk of the links you provided.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I agree she is an expert, but I have not found any correlation between following a bunch of accounts at this point beyond these people, such as myself, can be fooled into passing on misinfo. This is because we are exposed to a ton of content and it would be difficult to vet with the platform alone.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I don't have to research what BlueSky posts as the rules for this and the idea of domain verification is just setting it as a username, not the actual verification:
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
You do you know what a present participle is right? So now English can only be US English? This is a weird take, but okay...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Never argued, questions.... What is so hard to understand about that? All these assumptions about me and insults when I have yet to cast a single insult...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Most of the laundry list, I have 4 more to go in the large list of links...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I mean Miriam Webster seems to think it is, but again who am I? Just a person who reads words in a certain order:
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Love the insults, they show such a welcoming and sincere group of folks. Screaming "yur stoopid!" doesn't answer any questions but it can explain why there are generally good, well meaning people that get pushed away from listening to reason. But who am I, just another in the unwashed masses. SMH
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
If any yahoo can get a cheap domain I was under the opinion per BlueSky documents that the verification would have some sort of you know, verification. Not like the Twitter "pay for check mark". Folks here make a ton of assumptions about others with no actual evidence. I have not insulted anyone.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Point taken... Sincerely, thank you for the discourse, and give me just a smidge of credit for trying between you and I.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Just trying to be "good" for others is exhausting. Yes an oversimplification but I am out of spoons to think of a better way to articulate how this all makes me feel... Almost wonder if I have been better off just continuing to be a punching bag in the hellscape that Twitter turned into...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I am like only halfway through that one, it is A LOT to digest...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Lol, fine...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Yeah this reminds me of a bit by Patton Oswald called something like "bad guy, good guy" from one of his specials on Netflix maybe 10 years ago about getting hung up on how someone presents themselves (knowingly or not) and how one may miss the mark on who they are talking to making snap judgements.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I cannot see how a follow is elevating anything... You only see a few followers tags on any given account header. It can increase an account's follow count but it doesn't actively prove or give any authority to any given post or posts by an account. This asserts that everyone is dumber than a stump.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
The whole "you people" framing is just fundamentally offensive and I am surprised that she doesn't see how it can push people away. This whole "oh the decorum" and "why weren't you nicer when you asked?" It is like I need to be more Wayne and Garth just to breach the subject with her.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Yeah, I would figure that for that to have any value the domain verification would need to be as extensive as finish if someone is notable and this out of reach for me. Like paying for Twitter verified became just a signal for MAGA or right wing dipshits...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I look like a moron, but I cannot find what she is asserting (found the labeler thingy and got it working! For pronouns) and I am trying but getting insulted and badgered is not helping. I have not insulted her even once other than to question a single part of the assertion & so far coming up empty.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
2/ look up Patton Oswald from about a 10 years or so ago about getting hung up on words and the trouble that causes. The bit is something like "bad guy good guy" from a Netflix special... It articulated better than I ever could about just trying to right by people...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Not skimming, I read the summaries and abstracts where available and I am still reading the avalanche of what you sent btw. This isn't leading a horse to water and not getting him to drink, it is just telling the horse that there is water somewhere. Punishing someone who is trying doesn't help. /1
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
That's fair, I have been burned before making an assumption with "guy" and "miss" so I avoid it unless they are explicitly stated. I didn't know there was a labeler so thanks again. I read from Twitter after being there for ten years and watching it self destruct, so there is that...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I had to back it down to 0.5 at 20% density to get anything from it... 😢 But it is really cool, I wonder if I can get it working as a lock screen?!?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Srsly, you have no idea how giddy this makes me 😆
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Dare I use the phrase "you don't know me" or is that too much? I keep seeing insults thrown at me and I refuse to fall into that trap, but I am still looking (still reading!) for the proof that following a ton of accounts means that I am an agent of misinfo and which of my posts are enabling that.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Thanks btw
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Oh, that is srsly cool! I watched it for like 5 minutes and so many other thoughts occurred to me 😂
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
What pronouns? Cat lady isn't a gender preference so I make sure to use "they" what I don't know... Srsly what is your beef? I have not denigrated you, I have only dissented to your opinion and have asked many questions and am still reading the exhaustive list of stuff you link to me...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Oddly this will just match the cacophony in my head already 😆 ADHD for the win I guess?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Then in that case even better, I may miss a crap ton of posts, but it will always be the most recent and relative to the moment I am actually posting and scrolling...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
For example, this person just added me to a list that IS derogatory and then blocked me to stop me from even posting about it or appealing if you will. This is more of a feelings not facts approach and it rubs me the wrong way.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
It is whatever algorithm that feeds me the posts, not the volume of people that I follow. My personal philosophy is just to have a feed that moves along in real time as the conversation develops. If I follow say 100 people and they post irregularly then the convo will be stale by the time I look...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Joy, I am about to hit that threshold...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
This is fair, but what I want to know is because though this is ostensibly a "neutral" list, it paints a derogatory picture and how an average person can get off the list because Blue Sky doesn't offer verification for the average person read as not notable or in possession of a domain.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
2/ the other is that simply following accounts causes misinfo to spread. It's like saying if you wear SPF you will have it in you. All while I cannot find this in the abstracts, conclusions or summaries of what I read so far. This isn't leading a horse to water it is telling them that water exists.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
The woodshed? They have sent me a bunch of information I am still combing through, and yet they make a few assertions without getting into the specific details. One is that "at least 6 of my posts" are sources from some misinformation network. I want to know which ones so I don't keep doing it /1
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Why is it "telling"? It points out that maybe I have a sense of humor & a laugh brought me a bit of levity to point out that I didn't attack them personally (though my race, gender and past employment is obviously okay to attack as "typical", whatever that means) but I do dissent to their opinion.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Sorry, I meant that I sent a public message, not a DM. I need to be more precise with my words and speaking here like I do irl is getting me banned, ostracized and just overall crapped on... I went to the profile that said they maintained these lists and I was shown as blocked.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Lol, actually funny 🤣 FYI I am not upset at you, I am just under the opinion this this reeks of the idea that the average person is just a propaganda sponge with no agency of any kind. It really is offensive at a deep level for the average person and it causes them to actually reject good policy...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Check out @knittingcultlady.bsky.social @parkroseperma.bsky.social and @mdg650hawk.bsky.social if you want good information from reliable sources and diverse opinions. Just a touch of what else I expose myself to, sorry if it is one too many, because I am too dumb to be able to understand it 😔
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Ah a paywall for sticker shock for an "expert opinion" and you know already I am not a celeb or political leader and I am not rich enough to own a domain that is verifiable. If this chaps your butt so much that you are going to this length to punch down, I have to ask: Why? What does it serve? Srsly
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Again, never said I was, and all the scholarly data you have provided still does not show ANY evidence of the follower being the problem. Just the reach of the networks that are organized to get followed. I read your information, now enlighten us all with actual information. Respond to the posts.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Discourse requires conversation and debate, not silencing in the name of "security", how do you not see the parallel with laws that make us all "safer" but does it at the expense free movement of ideas?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Cannot correct what I don't know about, reply to them and tell me what is wrong with them. Or is that "too hard"?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
No I am absolutely not immune, but limiting my exposure to a platform at best leaves me ill equipped to discern misinformation to begin with. I used to think that the IDF were basically good with handcuffs causing them to make mistakes. That has been proven wrong at every level now. Also what 6?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Yes but oddly nothing about people who follow others who are spreading the information... So again the premise is that people who follow a lot of accounts are stupid, right?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
And yes I did read your bio, but being exposed to something for a long time does not impart wisdom about it. As an old Sergeant of mine told me over 30 years ago: "the day you know absolutely EVERYTHING about your job, is the day you need a new one." The implication is that you only THINK you know.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
This only is looking at bot accounts and automated accounts for how this misinformation spread. So the answer is to use a lazy bot account instead of rolling up one's sleeves and actually moderating content, you know the old "fact checking"?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I did read most of the summaries and in the dozen or so I did read starting from the top down, none of them spoke to people who follow many accounts. This isn't "moderation" it is lazy botting and blaming the victim (read recipient) for their more exposure to misinformation. It is lazy at best...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Accounts and networks that are "run by", "led by", "organized by" yet oddly none are caused by people "FOLLOWED BY". The take is dead simple, you all think people are too stupid to evaluate what comes across their feeds, when in reality it is bad actors with bots & compromised accounts doing this.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Same with this article, again it is not the following account that does the spreading PER THE ARTICLE it is the supersharer manually spreading the misinformation maliciously, not through being shared organically by followers who are duped. This is the dumbest take away for this entire subject.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
This article and its sources don't even talk about people who follow a bunch of accounts, it speaks instead of the misinformation accounts themselves! Yes, more people who follow many are EXPOSED to misinformation, but it is not the following account that spreads it, it's the account being followed.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Superspreaders? So now I am a disease? What kind of holier than thou crap is this? Who a person follows does not equate to what they post. By the article's own admission the follower cannot spread that misinformation faster than the original misinformation accounts. It is a false narrative entirely.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Explain to us all what the typical behavior is of an account that has a broad base of exposure. In nearly every case I can think of the best experience for anyone is to have as much exposure to information as possible then use the most mundane critical thinking skills to evaluate that experience.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
2/ You and people like this think that everyone around you is stupid and unable to evaluate social media posts for what they are, opinions that may or may not have any merit whatsoever. Example: "that sucks man" or "lol, cry me a river". Social media is social not news stop thinking they are stupid.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Go through my posts and tell me what is wrong with them. How is it "useful" exactly to excise normal people who desire broad exposure to the platform, other than to silence those who essentially are not "verified"? My opinions don't matter? Or is it not possible to read and critique my content? /1
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
There is nothing "neutral" about botted lists that effectively ban people for an inane level of Batman logic. How on gods green earth does "following" lead to the people doing the following being or passing on scammers? It equates the people trying to gain broad exposure as a scammer themselves. SMH
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I am a person, and I am neither "notable" or in possession of a domain that I "control" so either way I am all screwed because this lazy botted account says I am doing something they don't like. This is no different than a flipping HOA officer being a tiny Napoleon because it tickles their giblets.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I did and they have not responded, funny how that works... Stop defending a lazy bot account that is labeled with the person's account who "maintains" it while they block everyone on the list they are botting. Humans don't like bots and this hamfisted attempt at "moderation" is just low brow & lazy.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
2/ If you are going to curate a list that others will follow or block without knowing it is a bot, it is up to you to actually CURATE that list and verify it. Stop being lazy...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
So people who just like to be exposed to as many feeds as possible are getting blocked because someone else thinks it is tedious? I know that feeling because ITS TEDIOUS but lazily blocking a list that is lazily compiled is worse. Most people that follow a list think it has been verified. /1
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
2/ Keeping that in mind, the juice may not be worth the squeeze. They rushed to do the bidding of the orange tyrant by crafting these based only on Trump voters and not GOP voters. Making these 5 weakened 10 others and the 4 are majority independent split ticket voters. This may screw them big time.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Something to keep in mind is that Texas was already REALLY gerrymandered and in this case 4 of the 5 new "safe districts" are majority Hispanic/independent. Ones that voted for Trump but they neglected to account for them as split ticket voters, that is Democrats for Congress and Trump for POTUS/1
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
The only purpose of these kinds of lists is to limit the reach of normal people who just follow a bunch of people to get the broadest view from the platform. Basically punishing someone who just wants to see the most stuff. Hell my Youtube subs are in the thousands as well, I don't watch them all...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Because people block everyone on those lists because they think they are official Blue sky moderation lists. Just pisses me off because they are trying to say I am a bot or something...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Past that, I am unable to verify because I don't meet the requirements to verify a "domain" because I am not a notable person per Bluesky rules. What on gods green earth does this do for anyone? Side note: what the crap is "follow farming"? @moderation.bsky.app how do I get off these stupid lists?!?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social)
@automated-lists.bsky.social okay let me get this straight: you put me on a bunch of lists because I am "unverified" and follow a bunch of accounts, then the person who runs the lists blocks me so I cannot enter into any dialog as to why I am being listed in these baloney lists to begin with?!?
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Mind you I am not saying this to defend his actions. I am only pointing out that this was possible because it is legal. He lost when trying to replace the DC Police commissioner and was forced to compromise or the judge would have handed the Regime a loss in court over that part of the issue.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
The devil here is that he is actually not breaking laws by having any number of federal law enforcement in DC. Home rule or not, every inch of DC is, at the end of the day, Federal property. They do not have anything like "State's rights" and he only didn't there because he actually can.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
He looks constipated...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
A very bad hot take...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
I am pretty sure by "out of touch" he meant stupid...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
If you couple this with he missing about a war in 3.5 years and cancelling the election, it is definitely something to worry about.
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
But I like spicy and full of protein! Like buffalo wings! I mean 6 wings have like 36 grams of protein and are super spicy 🔥
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
What's scary is that at any moment there will be a crowd of people that will say "no more" to ICE. The end of that interaction will be one where all ICE "officers" will no longer be moving, and the person they meant to apprehend will be. It makes you wonder if ICE asks themselves "is today the day?"
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
Maybe by "autism" they actually mean "robust immune response"...
meansven.bsky.social (@meansven.bsky.social) reply parent
It takes a person 10 seconds to prove this is an outright lie. How on this earth does he keep doing it and even a single person believe him?