This is my point and I thought it would be clear, but based on most other replies I guess not!

Yeah he won an Andy Ngo prize for being an haughty little fascist edgelord on a debate program for morons. He’ll be dining out on it for at least a while to come. Jubilee is fundraising for fascism.

'martyred'

fartyred

BONG

He won't be able to milk that much out of it. I think the stain will haunt him longer than the grift will last.

Someone I wrote about being at a Nick Fuentes rally 12 months ago has a senate confirmation on Thursday. Wish I shared your optimism.

There are a lot of people operating from the dated mental model where the nation isn’t governed by a fascist. These things are recruitment and normalization efforts to show their lack of fear and embolden others. The punishment and then redemption as the comrades rally round is part of the show.

I also thought it was clear lol bsky.app/profile/acab...

Platforming as if they had reasonable views vs showing their whole ass racism so others can see what's been normalized by their party are two different things. The vast overwhelming majority has mayve 3m per day to spend on "politics", so getting this to hit their viral load is a Good Thing.

they will only be grifting off other stupid fucking nazis If he wants to go viral all the opposition has to do is meme his blatant nazi quotes

While people are busy making zingers, the fash are busy securing power. No platform means no way to build

For an old person like me who doesn’t follow TikTok or listen to Joe Rogan podcasts, though I do subscribe to Zeteo, this broadcast was very illuminating as to how the fascist misinformed young GenZ people think. It’s fucking scary. I don’t see this as platforming them.

For a writer like me who has written multiple magazine stories that aren't TikToks or Rogan episodes that cover exactly this stuff, idk what to tell you. I've specifically not written about people *on this episode* bc I would have been skyrocketing their careers. I'm a nobody compared to Mehdi.

I respect your position - not sure who are your audience so it may make sense to not give coverage to these shits - but for me, it was quite illuminating as I had thought young people were like me when I was that age - progressive and somewhat hopeful vs fatalistic and nihilistic and nazi.

I mean I would be shocked if even a simple majority of people knew the origins of the word "jubilee".

Wasn't it a year in which all debts were forgiven?

I think plenty of people understand this from the show Jubilee which has dominated discourse for 24 hours. That’s not the issue at all.

*blinks* there's a show called Jubilee? I legit thought you were referring to the old hebrew tradition

Also thought it was a biblical reference.....

Yeah you can find it here. They have some "interesting" guests for their discussions. www.youtube.com/@jubilee

Well I guess all day. Not 24 hours. Every minute is a day now.

I understand that.

He has raised over $21,000 now. I make about $9,500 a year from my Substack. Haha.

Of course he’s asking for “handouts”.

Congrats @mehdirhasan.bsky.social Top work lad. I hope you asked for 30% as his agent.

Backpfeifengesicht

He looks like Charlie Kirk

You write for normal people. He performs like a trained seal for rich freaks.

that's one bubble that needs breaking

He was so gleeful about his beliefs too. He’s the kind of guy that would have been screaming with joy as the SS rounded the Jews up into box cars and shot them dead in the streets. GLEE. A traitor to his country and perhaps the most punchable face ever and by punch, I mean baseball bat. NMD.

The $88 donations are comforting 🫠🫠🫠🫠🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

Means that we have too many employed Nazis. We need more of them to have to beg for donations.

Fixed it…

I think he made a bucket load from one shot sympathy donations. But, I like to think that once that's gone he'll be screwed.

New podcast coming soon

It makes me furious how much money is available to these grifters.

My friend needs help with with her medical expenses after having a new set of lungs transplanted back in October, barely any traction. Pieces of shit like this whine for getting fired for Nazi-rhetoric and they have a bunch of pissants just throwing money at them. This country is so fucked

Don’t give him clicks. He prob didn’t have a job. The MAGAs will give him money to mske the libs cry. Just give him No attention

Damn here I was trying to fundraiser for him

It'll be a one time payout while he's got media spotlight. Whereas you have audience who pay to read your work, built over time. I don't think he could even write a coherent substack to grow audience. He's more Kyle Rittenhouse than Curtis Yarvin.

Lol

I know it seems like a lot of money but if he had to draw that out over a year of unemployment, losing health insurance, between rent/mortgage, any debts he may have, utilities and normal expenses, that'll go very quickly. He's better off being an employable non-Nazi.

Not to mention the loss of potential retirement investment. He pissed away so much money being a miserable piece of shit.

Show proof he lost his job that doesn't come from an anon 40 person follower Twitter account.

Oh I have no idea whether this is fraudulent. Just saying even if it's for real, he wouldn't be in a good situation. Most likely he'll start some nazi podcast.

Even the people from Nazi podcasts get jobs, it's not 2017 anymore. Fantasyland.

Fair enough. Not trying to be argumentative. Was only making 2 points. 25k or whatever it is, isn't a lot of money to live off of and if he did actually lose his job for what he said, cool. Time will tell what's next. Hopefully nothing good for him.

36k, and yeah I get the points, I've just heard them over and over here, and it doesn't match the reality I cover for a living.

Nope.

Sure would be awful if there was a name and face attached to this admitted fascist

Hopefully we stop this silly obsession with debates as if they were MMA fights. All they do is to give those idiots a stage...

They’re all just looking for the bag for being racist and vile.

This dude may have just taken over the World's Most Punchable Face title

I know we always say 'punchable face is not an argument', but truthfully, can anyone think of a single punchable looking dude who did not also turn out to be an asshole

Sorry guys but his life isn’t over. He’s gonna get a fat fucking welfare check right now, and then he’ll continue on without any problems in the future. And if he wants to join the GOP apparatus in a year, he’ll be able to.

Is there any evidence of this campaign being posted to any of his known social accounts? Bc it would be a real good scam to make this campaign up bc what’s he going to do? Say it’s fake? He’s pseudonymous, right?

He went on Rift TV and talked about it. It’s definitely his campaign x.com/TheRiftTV/st...

Yeah tons of times. As far as the pseudo, he’s now publicly doxed. He’s been a very active groyper, in person, for a long time. It’s his campaign.

The other people from Jubilee who are sharing it are his friends, too. His real life friends that he really hangs out with and parties with.

And this is why jubilee is horrible. Gives fascists platforms to find their people. It's sick. :(

I'm assuming "GiveSendGo" doesn't care whether or not he was actually employed, as long as they get their cut.

Pretty much

The 'Christian' crowdfunding site... 🙄

When does Salena Zito do a cushy profile on him?

Never, that would require actual journalism.

Look I think that ChatGPT is awful. But if there’s one professional writer it could write better, than it’s her.

😐🚬

She should use one.

Cleetus Safari profiles with the tone and tenor of dollar store discount romance novels have a certain...je ne sais quois...for some audiences.

😩 as you know, I read everything about Chris LaCivita that comes out. Her profile of him was so atrocious, I almost could not finish it!! Such bad writing.

Prompt: identify a local GOP official and write a column that positions him/her as an independent voter who is turned off by Democrats and thinks Trump is the real deal. Please manufacture quotes for him/her.

Hahahhahahahaha

Guess where a lot of Sarah’s following came from. Yet people seem to not even recognize her when they go on the show.

This pisses me off so goddamn much. I got injured and lost my job. Had my car repossessed and my house foreclosed on because I can't work and Alabama has the worst disability system in the country. I've just been trying to survive. I've had a GoFundMe for years. I've gotten like $1200 from it.

If you want to help... Life’s been rough. Multiple surgeries, denied disability, lost my home all while raising my son alone. Trying to rebuild, and any support means the world. GoFundMe: www.gofundme.com/f/josh-and-n... Cash App: $jkotlowski Venmo: @jkotlowski PayPal: joshuakotlowski@gmail.com

I can only hope people will stop selling to him.

What a moocher. Republican up, get a fucking job, tool.

Excellent This is what we need vastly more of — consequences for shitty behavior You do indeed have the freedom of speech to say whatever you want, however, society has an equal right to tell you to fuck off for that speech Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences

And if anyone thinks that’s harsh, just read his Give Send Go page. He hasn’t learned a thing. He stills thinks he’s a victim and by the looks of it, is going to start the far right grift train by going on every Nazi podcast imaginable Part of why I’d argue against platforming these people

Maybe what he needs to do is "boots-strap up" since he feels to victimized by his beliefs and do what his forefathers did -- leave the country and find a country that WILL ALLOW HIS BELIEFS to be practiced. I hear Russia is looking for more Americans to add to their gene pool on the front lines.

If you watched Connor's segment, 'political views' is doing a lot of work here. No matter. He will be king of the GOP for this in short order.

Poor Nazi is facing consequences.

These people are just a bunch of nutty weirdo losers. Dangerous weirdos. They talk like they haven’t gotten off 8kun for more than 5 minutes in the last 10 years. Looking around for self aggrandizement, no real friends, living in a basement, being offensively transgressive. Don’t be scared of them

Thinking Connor Is likely actually Cletus from The Simpsons

Wow. You can’t even get away with trying to send your coworkers to concentration camps anymore

Just so we’re clear, there needs to be consequences for arguing in favour of fascism.

i think our ancestors around the year 1940ish had the right idea...

Just a reminder that everyone can report the campaign, too. Technically it goes against their TOS because he’s openly admitting to being a part of a larger group (fascists/Neo-Nazis) with the intent of performing political violence against marginalized people.

How to report: 1. Copy the URL to his campaign 2. At the top right corner, click the 3 bars (hamburger icon) 3. In the dropdown list, click “Contact Us” 4. In the bottom right corner of the “Contact Us” page click the green “Contact Us” popup 5. On the popup page, click “Contact Us” near the bottom

6. Fill out the form, paste the URL you’ve copied into the “Campaign URL” field 7. Write an explanation of why you’re reporting him, be sure to include how he’s breaking their Terms of Service (Include how he openly admitted to being a fascist and is promoting violence) 8. Submit report

Hopefully, this can keep him from receiving the funds and/or force him to pay them back if successful. It’s worth a shot if you all have time.

I’d also like to add there’s no real evidence he’s lost his job, so on top of the fact he’s admitting to being an outright violent fascist, it could also be a straight up scam. Maybe he did lose his job, but he’s done nothing to prove it.

Givesendgo is a fascist platform already is it not?

Yes, but at the same time, it wouldn’t hurt to try because based on how their TOS is worded, he is technically violating it. (Not that they are going to potentially admit that outright.)

(That’s also why you have to cite that it’s a direct violation of their TOS and mention that he has provided no proof he lost his job, therefore it could be a scam.)

These recent donations must be violative as well. There is no room for interpretation for the $50 one. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourtee...

Isnt give send go a christo fascist org?

bsky.app/profile/myra...

Just did that.

Sometimes I hate having ethics, it’d be so easy to pay bills grifting these people. Ughhh

lol, eat shit Connor

"I got fired for my political beliefs! What beliefs, you ask? Look let's not get bogged down by details."

Meanwhile @allturkaseelbackup.bsky.social @mohabdllh.bsky.social @mohammedalturk1.bsky.social & @hadiiturk.bsky.social are siblings trying to survive level 5 man made famine, drinking salt & water bc donations are rare Find it in your heart to help 🖇 Paypal: tiny.cc/hbcuzz 🖇 GFM: gofund.me/54db81e4

We are sending strength for surviving this horror. We are battering at the gates of the unkind to release the food and stop the killing. Ameen.

Next up: speaking tour and CPAC appearance. Then he will have a Netflix special bitching about how he has been silenced.

The guy who loves Franco is now begging for socialism. Amazing how fast those political beliefs can flip.

What kind of a country do we live in where a person can't openly declare on video that they're a fascist without losing their job? A pretty decent one actually. If it was great, it would kidnap him and drop him from a helicopter into the middle of the ocean.

A body language expert would have a field day with that fucking douchebags facial expression in that photo. Even I can see the unbridled hatred and rage.

I just don’t think that arguing that genocide isn’t all that bad is a political belief. I think that’s insanity.

Being a piece of shit has nothing to do with mental illness.

i would love to see "unrepentant nazi" as a mandatory 72hr hold form of psychosis

I exchange views with a dozen people every day who think genocide isn't that bad. I don't think they have mental health problems. They are just liberals and centrists.

Far right conservative: I'm a Nazi conservative and I support genocide conservatively You, a dumb fuck: See? Liberals support genocide

Most days I don't talk to that many Nazis because I don't live in the US.

"My political beliefs? uh, those are, uh, well, they basically entail that it is ok to be a total asshole and POS person. Those are my political beliefs."

Mehdi Hasan making fascists rich

Sending tots and pears.

Damn. Faux political persecution pays out, huh?

HAHAHAHA, This fascist is wants socialism will save him.

Abolish Jubilee

Dude went Fascist to Socialist pretty quickly

It’s a right wing christian crowdfunding site, but their terms of service do prohibit supporting violence, which as a fan of dictator Francisco Franco, Connor certainly does.

Oh that guy's name is Connor? What a surprise (could not be more Connory if he tried)

The new Kyle Rittenhouse

Except he’s the one who got murdered

To debate Medhi, you would have to be extremely smart or extremely stupid. We saw what these 20-somethings are, and the US education system (or home schooling) is definitely failing.

while i want to believe that, psychopathy isn't a matter of education, no more than ADHD is.

*Mehdi

Taking on a British-born journalist is a stupid. Taking on Mehdi is just downright suicidal. There were 20 MAGA bodies left behind once he was done. Worth the 1hr40 run time. Scary, but with it.

Jubilee has never been pulling any quality for the "20" side of these things. There was one guy in this Medhi one that they'd already pulled in for at least 2 of these things previously.

I mean I’m halfway sure it’s Sarah‘s full-time job at this point.

These "political beliefs" should get you a lot more than fired.

$20,000 raised. I am so fucking tired of the people of this country.

Beauty of the first amendment. People are free to reject association with your beliefs because you can change beliefs. Hope he uses the funds to immigrate to an authoritarian nation and finds joy.

He’s already in one

But that guy ‘Kai’ who did the final round will probably end up funded by Peter Thiel and the Heritage Foundation

Meanwhile Paypal accounts set up to support Palestine are being locked by Paypal.

Who fired him? I'd love to know and I hope it is a conservative business.

This makes me jubilant. anyway.

WAS he, though? What’s this little fucker’s last name? Who was he working for?

😶

Where’s that Twitter joke? “which political beliefs? Taxation rates?” “no, you know the ones.”

Found it

Did he get fired yet? Has someone got his identity and address yet?

Racists being racist again

He will be a Fox News anchor soon

I thought he didn't care?

Connor James Estelle if anyone else was curious.

He was “most improved bike rider” as his high school lmao www.rotaryclubofcastlerock.org/stories/este...

Aw, poor Nazi boy, cry harder fuckwit.

Hahahahahahhaha

So what a fucking snowflake

can we get him fired again and again?

Willing to bed he hasn't been fired and he's just grifting

It’s disgusting that people are giving a Nazi money

Why are they so weird?

guy is pretty normie tbh

You know why.

The guy gleefully declared he was a N*zi. I dont think Jesus was a N*zi.

You know he's going to get a job and a think tank a whole lot of fascist fund money They don't let their people sink.

He’s already up to 17k 🤬

smelled this coming before the actual video even dropped

Cry more Fascie. I bet he wasn’t torn up when this guy lost his job for his political beliefs. I’m doubtful this tool even had a job to begin with

Holy shit, Catholics. Fascie is speaking for you?

Not any more, if he got fired

He was fired from a tech company. I think “Catholic commentator” is more of a hobby? Aspirational desire? Shitty headline writing?

Jesus Nazi Christ

To be fair, the Catholics are sprinting in the other direction from this tool

*I suppose I should say now they are sprinting from him. Everything he did before getting viral famous seemed to be no big deal to them

Yeah, it's like he doesn't understand basic social conventions within the church. I mean you don't just come out and say those things in public. On camera. To brown people. You keep that to the discrete corners of the community room to discuss over ambrosia.

dude. good for your employer.

The confidence high this guy was riding on during that Jubilee was so so SO strong that not once... Not even for a second... Did he think "Wow the stuff that's coming out of my mouth could cost me my job" Fired for my political beliefs? Nah man, fired for being a jackass.

I mean ‘I usually use a pseudonym online’ is a bigger red flag than the one they use to get him to sit down

As soon as he said that I fucking KNEW he lives in the darkest corners of the right wing media verse

that’s why he needed exposing. centrists just WONT acknowledge these ppl exist. it Michelle Obamas ‘when the go low, we go high’ ALL the time with American centrists. that’s why you (& the rest of the world) are here..

Yeah he’s a very well known groyper for years now. I’ve met him at AFPAC.

Jubilee made him leave his hood at the door.

Really, “Mike” no last name? There is nothing sinister about wanting privacy online.

cuss “Fired for Being Racist” didn’t sound victim blamey enough.

Should read “Fired cuz I’m a shitty person”.

Bro's opsec is untouchable

GiveSendGo funds Nazis and the extreme right. They also have poor cybersecurity and have been hacked multiple times. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GiveSen...

@0x0.boo

I believe this man's legal name is Quite Frank.

Shame it wasn’t Quiet Frank

In a just world he'd be lucky to survive the next week imo

How does one have a contemptuous look on their face while also looking like they are about to cry?

“Oh, you know the ones”

Hard to prove at this point but I think it was the haircut.

This is why we should all stop watching and stop being on Jubilee. The second this man said he was a fascist, they should’ve stopped recording and kicked him out. They didn’t… for the content. They’ll platform self described fascists, emboldening them to be proudly and publicly fascists. For content

Persian Poirot is also a Royalist / Pre 1979 Iran flag pin. The whole group is Fa.

😂 That’s actually hilarious!

JWJ

Dude needs a lawyer.

"Fired for my political beliefs" could also prompt maybe a little introspection about whether those beliefs fucking suck but we are deep into the consequence-free grift zone so alas we just get this instead

Good times. He was already in the grifter circles.

Major yellowhammer energy with this guy.

Isn't this the Nazi?

I really like Mehdi but this was so stupid if him to do

The right wing is grift all the way down.

Good for thag company tbh

🎻

Need a smaller one.

Who could have foreseen this? Him probably. Probably a fascist charity case, who doesn't want to work.

Freedom expression prevails. He was free to declare himself a fascist, and his employer was free to disassociate itself from this fascist. He's a kid. He can get unemployment. Why would anyone give him money? (That said, if you want to express yourself that way, have at it.)

I have a feeling his employer found him obnoxious for general reasons and was happy to have a legitimate excuse to fire him

Here’s a counter-fundraiser to demonetise Jubilee for allowing fascism on their platform. chng.it/9fbr7wHbtp

GTFOH! He sure jumped on the "Racism is my DNA" support gravy train with the quickness... 🤬🤬🤬

Thoughts and prayers…or not.

“And what political beliefs were those?” “Oh, you know…. The ones.”

The boy who cried fascist and FUFA. Sniff sniff to that a hole. He was next level bad.

I seriously doubt it. These people know the grift. They did this to start these pages, and they'll capitalize on them.

What do you doubt? It’s real. He’s promoted it himself

I don’t trust these people. They know that their supporters are guided by hate, and it’s an easy emotion to manipulate. Possible he wasn’t even employed, and is using the Surrounded video to grift. I don’t trust any of them.

He’s grifting. He’s a fucking lying fascist. I bet that mfer never had a job and lives with his parents. He’s just grifting here. Good thing he’s taking money from other dumb racists. I gotta find a way to do that.

Oh please this crazy ass dude didn’t even have a job.

At least it was made clear that the "belief" in question is "I want everyone who's not like me to die horrifically"

Self-described fascist is a deal-breaker for most employers.

Holy shit, it's real (well, real in the sense that it exists. Would not surprise me if the grifter isn't the one in the photo)

I mean he’s promoting it on Blaze!

Isn’t this what fascists like him want? Prosecuting people for their political beliefs?

He actually said: “The reason we have free speech now is so we can be openly talking about our opinions so we can get the state that we want, but it doesn’t mean upholding free speech after we win.” So yeah, doesn’t believe in free speech.

Come to think of it I think this is actually what he said he wanted.

JC tretter?

lol, called it bsky.app/profile/pott...

You fail to account for how many like-minded people will rush to hire him.

How's that workin out for Kyle Rittenhouse?

Yes and no. Yes a certain crowd will be willing to hire him but that crowd also often needs to appear neutral for their non fascist clients. Staffing a known fascist removes their ability to deny and threatens their broader client base.

he has a great future in dietary supplements ahead of him

Exactly. This fascist gas already raised $9000 from supporters.

It was a performance resume for ICE

🤞🏻

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Excellent!

I wouldn't be surprised if he created this entire theater to get money like that other cancelled maga did.

He'll have way more time for that podcast 😏

And those political beliefs? Literally fascism.

Lol being a Nazi should make you fired all the time. He shouldn't be able to raise money because he's just going to be on Fox in 2 weeks.

Fucked getting fired, this asshole should be continously jumped over and over until he issues a public apology.

I genuinely have no idea who this guy is (or how everybody knows him despite hating Jubilee) but based on the comments, I hope every day of his life is the day he deserves.

'Fired for my political belief' Yes, and?

now wear a pro-Fidel shirt in Miami and see how far you make it before being beaten to death, you dumbfuck nazi

This is how I'm finding out being a (wannabe) fascist isn't a full time job?

I was going to joke earlier that Jubilee is probably just the advertising component of a welfare program for nazis, and well

I’d love to know what company fired him so I can support them.

Maybe he didn't even get fired!! We know he's disingenuous anyway, why does this even have to be true! Just say whatever will get people to give him money, it's an even better grift than if he actually got fired!

👏👏👏👏 has anyone found out yet??

It’s profitable to be a virulent fascist

Fired for being a fucking liability. Nobody wants to work with a scumbag fascist or do business with a company that hires scumbag fascists. Little shit thought he was so special.

White privilege looking for work!

Stop fucking doing this shit already. Noone needs to hear the opinions of 20 Nazis.

Hahhahhahahahahha

They fight tooth and nail against critical social aid supposedly based purely on the idea that ppl on those services are lazy freeloaders who should pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but they'll gladly give thousands to a guy for no reason other than openly being a nazi. Hope they all die.

@mikewtrapp.bsky.social Are you aware of your evil racist clone? 👆

Weird that he hasn't mentioned this fundraiser on his twitter at all but he's been posting about the jubilee spot for a couple days. it'd be amazing if someone scams a bunch of RWingers on this guy's name.

He's right about Peterson though.

and he hasn't mentioned being fired.

Ahh this way he isn't asking for money on twitter..

Lmfao. We're going to talk about this asshole. ... aaand MLK Jr.

He’s been streaming about it.

I almost feel like he did it on purpose.

What was the job worth losing 15 g's for? Congrats on a year of rent for a shitty apartment in a midsize town?

He has already blown past that goal to about half of my annual income.

You think he will only raise $15k? Lol. The woman who called a little kid the n-word at the playground got hundreds of thousands of dollars raised for her.

This proud anti-Constitution anti-democracy fascist Quite Frankly considers Nazism Quite Frankly to be “traditional right wing political views.” Quite Frankly Quite Frankly Quite Frankly.

I'm never not amazed by the sheer lack of intelligence with the folks when it comes to "free speech". The first amendment only protects them from GOVERNMENT consequences, not private employer consequences. This free speech absolutism has to end.

Bingo!!! Government does not=private employer.

15k? Apparently, his beliefs aren't worth that much, and he will lick boots on the cheap.

Isn't his username pigsap or something?

it will probably be the best thing that ever happened to him

nah the rightwing reactionary space is way oversaturated. he might get some cash but it won’t be that much compared to losing his job, and he won’t become an online rightwing celebrity. He’s got no hook, at least the Iranian guy has like a Hipster Shah thing going on

Accurate.

For a short while, then he will regret it, Its always nice to expose those dumb fucks, let him have his little gofundme, only other racists trash are being scammed anyway, who gives a fuck.

What is happening in this country

Fascism but with follower counts and ad revenue

😬

Let's hope not. Even a lot of those on that stage were uncomfortable with him. wanting to say offensive vulgar words is still not close to I want a dictatorship and to do away with the Constitution. But I'm afraid you may be right, which is scary as hell.

what makes you think they were uncomfortable with him?

No they weren’t. These people are literally friends!

He red flagged almost immediately by a few. But ok.

You are attempting to argue with one of the leading experts on the current American Neo Nazi movement. She knows who they hang out with.

Ok. I'm not arguing.

LOL They literally hang out with each other!!!!! I know who these people are. Some of them I personally know!

This delusional attitude is exactly what Jubilee is preying on.

"I only agree with the self hating persian who had the decency to respect that violently shaking racist" as a stepping stone to letting the brown shirts grab you

The only way they might have been uncomfortable would be they realized he might be giving away the game for the rest of them. But that was a stage full of fascists, period.

He is now the Secretary of Foreign Relations

Lol $15k in this economy aint shit, this video will forever be around to let anyone know he is a nazi lover

We should never platform fascists because they don’t care about debate. They don’t care about truth. Reality informs our truth. Their truth informs their reality. The correct thing to do was to punch him in the nose while he was mid-laugh, call him an asshole, and walk away.

Bleak but true

this is why you don’t “debate” nazis

If I wasn't so sure he was going to get indicted for whatever's on his hard drive in a few years, I'd be pretty mad right now.

There's only one language that humbles a Nazi and if you're not willing to speak it, you shouldn't put yourself in a room with them.

It's their love language

Bro cant even raise his hand high enough before getting decked

I can't get enough of it.

the best part is how right when it’s over it starts again

To debate someone is to presuppose that each side has valid points to make. Fascism has no valid points.

hard disagree. in 2014? maybe. but at this point these ideas are essentially mainstream and I'm not sure how else we combat them at this point except for engaging with them directly?

Exactly

like one shitty dude getting $15k does not in any way negate literally millions of people FINALLY being exposed to effective counters of what *highly* insular and extremely popular podcasters have been spewing for a decade..... that's pretty important work isn't it?

these audiences are never going to realize how absurd the fascistic ideals they're playing to are until someone like medhi brings them face to face with it maybe the format isnt ideal but I don't understand how we don't all see yet that "just ignore them and they'll go away" just makes things worse

there's other options than platforming them to fight these ideas. I feel like we've already seen that "surely people will take away that this viewpoint is absurd" isn't a given. you can just promote good ideas instead of putting good and bad on stage and expecting people to favor the good

there are no givens in a debate. will some people come away thinking "wow, that self-avowed fascist seemed like a very smart and reasonable guy"? maybe. but you think more people will have that takeaway than "that guy literally said he's a fascist, so his ideas are probably fascistic"

like right wing podcasters have been fighting tooth and nail for a decade to convince people that everyone calling them fascists are hysterical and that they're actually just totally reasonable pragmatists. I'm really surprised people aren't seeing the value in someone openly admitting it in public.

and sure, you *can* "just promote good ideas" ....but there's been great people doing that for a LONG time and it's simply not had the reach that right wing podcasts or these types of debates do. again, the left has been doing "just leave them alone and they'll go away" and it clearly doesn't work.

Directionality is never, ever obvious, but generations if not a couple centuries of people raised on "We hold these truths to be self-evident" takes a while to undo.

Lol

How about by ruining their lives? By killing them? Can we stop pretending these people have normal, debatable viewpoints? When you platform this bullshit you are presenting it as "the other side" as though it's totally reasonable. How has that worked out for us so far in this country?

I'm also not sure what you mean by "how has that worked out for us so far" because "don't engage with them, leave them alone and they'll go away" has far and away been the predominant disposition towards these ideals for a decade.........sooooo yeah, how HAS that worked out for us so far?

Really?? Is that how you see it? Because from here it seems to me like US media has done a whole lot more sharing of these ideas than "don't engage".

...........yes that's a very measured and realistic alternative. thanks! (palantir if you're listening this is sarcasm)

I'm tired of this "measured take" garbage. They have taken over the country, people espousing these beliefs are taking away MY PEOPLE and sending them to fucking concentration camps and you want us to be measured? To what? Fucking invite them onto a podcast to debate? No. Fuck this.

ok, well what about realistic? and yeah, my people too. you don't think I'm scared out of my fucking mind on a daily basis? you think you're the only one? it's kinda gross that you think that simply because I disagree with you on praxis that I can't appreciate the gravity of the situation.

Oh you think its gross I'm so sorry. I think its gross that while these people orchestrate ethnic cleansing, the best we can do is say "no lets let them talk and debate them".

I never said that's "the best we can do." I said I think it does more harm than good to just leave these people alone, because that's what the left has been doing for a decade, and now we're here.

And I mean, what has happened after they came on that video and were completely picked apart? One guy supposedly is fired. Now he'll get 20k and is being given the red carpet to grift on other nazi podcasts, while Jubilee makes bank off this. They certainly dgaf. This is not working.

how do you know it's not working? it doesn't have the same immediate effect as "that guy just made a bunch of money," but I'm not sure what kind of immediate result you expect to see from something of which the intent is to simply reframe the conversation and address ideas....?

BECAUSE A FUCKING EUGENICIST NAZI IS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

that..... does not address my question?

You asked me "how do you know its not working"? Because this whole "give both sides a platform to present the illusion that they're equally reasonable" has been all over US media for longer than either of us have been alive. And yet, there he is. I'm done. Nazis should die. Argue with yourself.

Engage them with a kick in the teeth.

I mean, ok. but unfortunately tim pool has like a $5M compound and he's probably going to keep spewing bullshit regardless of how many people are willing to do that. sooo that's kind of where we're at 🤷

this is why i don't trust taylor lorenz, she's had libs of tiktok within lethal range more than once and done nothing for humanity with those opportunities

Amen and fuckin hell, they gave twenty of them a platform and a stage. Now we know who they are and what they think. And these guys treat it like they're interviewing for a job with the GOP.

The good news is that the Trump admin now has one more Iranian, one more Hispanic male with tattoos, and one more DACA that outed themselves for deportation to CECOT.

Please just shut the fuck up

I respectfully decline

you're one of the fascists

I don't think you know what that word means...

he says, cheering on the actions of the fascists

Hooray? Huzzah? Yay? Clap? None of which appear in any comment I've made. You can make up whatever you want in your imagination station that you call home, but it is detached from the reality you seem to have wandered into.

"it's good news when fascism happens to people i don't like" - you bsky.app/profile/ossi...

who are you excited about being deported next, huh pal?

You are advocating for people to be put in what is a concentration camp. You are the other side of the same coin as the current fascists in power.

I'm not advocating for anything of the like. You have made inferences that do not match reality. I made an comical observation regarding the fascists in the video being the exact same nationalities and physical characteristics used to justify sending people to CECOT.

God, but you're such a shitheel. You are as basic a white bro as every dude in that video, but at least they weren't hiding their shittiness behind "I'm just joking bro". Honestly dude, pick better battles.

Didn't you know that denying due process was super hilarious? It must be nice to be a white dude who doesn't have to worry about ICE questioning the legitimacy of their citizenship.

I'm not fighting any battles. I don't need to try and convince random people on the Internet who read one comment out of context who I am and what I stand for. I'd rather let you guys ruin your day thinking about it for hours.

Honestly if many people told me I was talking and acting like a fascist, given that I'm not, I'd be a little horrified. I mean it's never happened to me. I'd not be stomping my feet to say "nuh uh it doesn't matter what it looks like it matters how I feel, u mad bro". Cause that's how _they_ act.

Nah.

Why? Like he's getting donations yeah but why does that matter?

Yeah I don't get it. $15,000 is nothing, he lost his job and everyone knows he's a fascist now. He can only work for other fascists, and they are probably shitty employers. Maybe underpay him because they know his options are limited.

He’ll be on Newsmax by week’s end

He seems pretty terrible at grifting. He's only asking for 15k.

This is a very intentional strategy. Start the goal low and have it automatically raise every time you get close to it. It’s already over $11k and there’s a good chance he blows past that $15k and makes way more

Exactly. Why would he need a job now? He can and obviously will run straight to grift.

Does he already have a substack, or will it launch this weekend?

Pretty much all of those people have substances and/or monetized social media.

I had a brief bit of joy at this fascist encountering consequences and now I feel despair realizing you're right.

It’s better than nothing.

The message for their audience is that they can now speak out without fear, as their comrades will rally around them. We’ll see lawsuits against the companies that fire these types soon. They want to break open the permission structure and intimidate their employers and coworkers into silence.

.........they've been speaking without fear for like 10+ years now.......?

Define “they.” Normalization is a process, and the Richard Spencer types have their own income sources outside employment. Now, they are getting louder.

the right wing media ecosystem, particularly on the internt. to me, the most consequential aspect of these people feeling that they have license to speak freely is not really the implications of that in their personal life, but how many other people they are able to radicalize.

this was a different conversation ten years ago. at that time I think it would have contributed to their legitimization in a dangerous way. but at this point it seems clear to me that avoiding that engagement is only hurting us. because they've already been legitimized whether we like it or not.

so it's not that they're getting loud, they are loud. getting louder? maybe. but they've been loud. us being quiet or pretending we don't hear them doesn't make them less loud and it certainly doesn't make anyone else hear us at the same volume as them when they're 5x louder than us.

You engage with fascist by offering a different social vision. Sartre, Eco, and so many others who lived through the last round have written at length about this. Debate is a game for the fascists, where they make a fool of the debater for engaging while fondling their revolvers.

Fascism is the idea that politics should be based around who has the ability to enact violence on their fellow citizens. It's a threat. You don't debate them for the same reason that you don't criminals who think they have a right to break into your home and murder your family.

Even getting on the same stage says you think that "I have the right to murder you and your family because you look or think differently than me" is a legitimate idea that needs intellectual debate. Like, there's a reason the "debate" in the mid-20th century was settled by a world war.

None of this changes because fascist content has become a money-maker on the Internet, and "debates" with fascists where they smirk at the liberal saps and talk about how they intend to harm them are just another form of fascist content.

And, absolutely predictable that it would be. Everyone involved in the whole event should be embarrassed, including the ones who meant well.

I am hopeful that because he’s not “hot” he won’t get that racist mom treatment and it fizzles out with the Epstein stuff going on.

He doesn't have to be attractive. Look at the people in this sphere. There are a lot of men that are very unconventionalally attractive.

I know :( I was just being hopefully. Saw he’s blowing past 30k now though so that’s out the window.

🤮

meeting of dem strategists somewhere: "okay let's brainstorm some ideas... how do we triangulate the jubilee nazi freak"

i still havent forgotten the million $ n word lady

It's extremely unlikely this will turn out well for him.

Yeah, not everyone who fucks up on camera gets to be Kyle Rittenhouse.

even kyle rittenhouse isn't kyle rittenhouse. Where is he today? Doubt he even has a job and the magats lose interest fast. No one is going to support these young men for the rest of their lives. For that matter: where's rudy?

Right, the idea that this will inevitably lead to a career as a maga pundit is absurd. The fascists who donated will forget about him tomorrow but that video will exist forever.

It won’t impact his future at all lol. He was already known in these circles so that’ll be cool and he’ll get a new job just fine in a bit — if he even lost his current job.

bsky.app/profile/mich... it gets worse.

Monetizing the fascist outrage is nothing new for this boi.

I know this bc I do this for a living, and it’s pretty much never permanent, even when they’re in the GOP itself.

Wait, you do what for a living? Track fascists?

And yeah, I figure he’ll live but he’s almost certainly not gonna get rich and famous. That’s all I meant

Pretty sure this guy with zero relevant experience is going to be rich now. techcrunch.com/2025/02/06/a...

Yeah, but that guy was in the mainstream news for a solid 9 months. This guy is an attempted influencer with a gofundme because he was on one episode of a web show.

I am a journalist. Bet anything this guy is back in politics by 2027. People who got fired from state GOP‘s because of my journalism two years ago are getting jobs again. Someone I wrote about being at a Nick Fuentes rally has a Senate confirmation on Thursday

Oh I didn’t see the whole show. I didn’t think this guy actually worked in politics, I thought he just happened to be in the kind of groyper podcast scene

He didn’t, but they all want to. They all want to be in politics in some form, whether that is an influencer or a c4 or doing something at turning point. I don’t know that those doors are closed to him now. We’ll see.

As an expert-respecter I won't argue with you! At what point though do you think we're the ones who benefit from engaging?

The problem with Jubilee is that it is set up in their favor. Every time I’ve seen clips of the show, I have known who the fascist is. And it’s clear to me that none of the left-wingers actually on Jubilee have known who any of the fascists are.

I completely agree on Jubilee, the entire premise of the show isn't remotely designed around having constructive arguments. As soon as things start going poorly for one of them, they just remove them and counter with other bullshit. It's definitely not the situation people should be promoting.

I stopped watching Jubilee when I started noticing all the right-wing media grifters arguing with random liberals off the street in their Middle Ground series. Blaire White and the woman from PragerU arguing against trans rights…

So you have one person going in blind, and 20 people who all know each other and are well prepared. Who do podcasts and have blogs and know each other, and know the ends and outs of each other‘s beliefs. Who have, in some cases, spent years debating each other on paywalled podcasts.

irrc, one time myron from fresh and fit was one of the 20.

If you walk into a bar with 20 nazis and stay to have a beer.....

I am not a no platformer. I “platform” people all the time. I engage with them publicly; I’ll argue online, I’ll talk to them at events. I won’t make plans to go on a fascist podcast, but if they are live streaming at an event I’m at, I don’t walk away. But the problem here…

Proof that this stunt was stupid to do.

Yes.

bsky.app/profile/gwen...

Ah yes. Alt Right Communism

LMAO

Love how he says "traditional right wing views" as though traditionally in America fascists were allowed to walk around with all their teeth still in their mouths.

I would have fired him for his weasely small mouth. Gives me the creeps

For anyone wondering, this guy literally called himself a "fascist"

Fired for political beliefs or being an asshole?

Same thing really

Someone employed this annoying fuck?

Menards

Priceless

That fashy fucker got canned? Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Victimhood is so profitable for these guys and they get paid for doing something that they love.

Fafo

Fascist: "I'm a fascist! I believe in fascism." Fascist, fired for political speech: "No, not like that."

I wish I could get canceled 😔

That insufferable piece of…. Turns out I support deporting certain real fucking annoying people.

Lol lmao even

He's prob going to be the keynote speaker at CPAC

I knew they were going to start a GoFundMe or to find a way to monetize their appearance.

He had a job? Seemed like a basement dwelling twitter troll

Authoritarian fan boy gets lesson in authoritarianism and finds it unfair.

wtf? are you kidding me?

wish it happened to him in a more literal way

Rittenhouse’s all like- You, you mean to say that I didn’t have to murder some strangers to beg for money and attention? Really? Welp,…luckily for me, I enjoyed it. The murders, I mean. Really. MAGA! Making America(absolutely)Ghastly(as shit)Again 👊🇺🇸💩

Do we know dinkus was really fired?

All aboard the Grievance Gravy Train!

Nice begging title coming from a guy who doesn’t believe in the constitution.

a new Rittenhouse has been chosen

Quite frankly,

how do u get fired as influencer

He wasn’t an influencer for a living.

is now

That face just screams "Creep, weirdo, loser."

Ya know what, how about folks donate to me instead? I'm a disabled trans woman and I actually make good shit instead of being a useless, right-wing grifter like that guy is. ko-fi.com/hereticalred

Isn't that the proudly fascist guy?

For the rest of his natural life, yes.

Oh you know the ones

Those weren't political beliefs.

What a joke…I found the fundraising page and there’s no details about the “job” he supposedly lost. There’s a link to a podcast segment where he talks about losing this “job”, but again in the most generic way. What job did he lose? Physician’s Assistant? Executive Admin? Pizza delivery guy?

Trump will latch in to this and it will become another distraction, and maybe a good one

This is the thing. We should be labeling these guys Nazis. LOUDLY.

I still have about 30 minutes to go in this thing (its a lot to watch at once) but Connor was a fucking delight and I hope he gets everything coming to him (sideswiped in a crosswalk by a garbage truck and then pissed on by a stray dog).

I didn't see it and will not see it, but I saw the promo clip. Isn't that the guy who claims to be a true American bc his ancestry goes back to the Mayflower?

If this was a Republican against 20 progressives/liberals, the Go Fund Me would have been created by this dude's family because Connor would have been detained and deported for his political views. And those on the Right would have cheered.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

These people love to out themselves and then create a gofundme when they find out the world doesn't like them.

I miss when the GoFundMe was to shut up instead of to keep talking.

So they are pro socialism?

Firing isn't enough for filth like these.

9000 dollars for this NAZI while good people starve everyday in our country. We live in Hell

Claims to be a big Franco fan, asks for a socialism.

He got a check from some Right Wing Think Tank to be there. Hope it was worth it, Bryce. Now everyone knows you're a repulsive asshole. But then, the social circles you travel in probably think like you.

I searched for “GiveSendGo Fired for my Political Beliefs” and was not surprised this wasn’t the first result

Give it time, the grift needs to marinate

It is now and he’s raised $10K+ (with a goal of $15K).

I hope he gets what he deserves 🙏🏾

When a right wing person says “freedom”, what they really mean is: a) freedom to do bad things without intervention from the state (including oppress or subjugate other ppl); or b) freedom to be an asshole without social consequences (including expressing repugnant beliefs).

Meet your new FEMA director.

Not to worry “Conner”. I know for a fact that they’re looking for cabbage pickers in Salinas.

Mother fucker got fired because he said “yea, I’m a fascist”, and has already raised $9000 from people supporting him‽

Thank you internet

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whiny little nazi bitch - obviously there are a lot of sympathetic nazis out there that are happy to give money to other little whiny nazi bitches