Great he just got himself a dishonorable discharge Court martial in a military tribunal
Great he just got himself a dishonorable discharge Court martial in a military tribunal
Wow!
What is your ROE? Define Deadly Force and when it's authorized! Are you at condition one?
Heard at Neuremberg many times. It didn't fly there either.
Nazi Concentration Camp Guards were FOLLOWING ORDERS TOO.
Just following orders is a shameful thing to admit. Poor kid.
Ignorance is no excuse.
Every single Nazi said the same thing
Does no one teach American youngsters about Nuremberg anymore? PS what’s GD?
god damn? That's my best guess.
"Only following orders" Famous last words.
Has anyone reminded them that "They took their OATH to the Constitution" NOT to a DICK-TATOR ⁉️ ...We need to see the faces and know the names of the Anti-American, Tyrannical Military Leaders who are giving these Troops WRONGFUL Orders to follow!
NEXT Question SHOULD HAVE BEEN!! "Even UNLAWFUL ORDERS"!!????
Poor fool. That won't mean what he thinks it means.
Now he’s on camera. Any of them who are dumb enough to say that should be first to be arrested after MAGA reign ends.
They are not yet ETHICALLY challenged. If ordered to SEE that it’s safe, that is one thing. If ordered to hurt or shoot citizens who are protesting peacefully, that’s a VERY different order. No military person has to follow an unlawful order.
So what's the order? Break your oath to the constitution for a nazi rapist pedophile murderer? Know what an illegal order is!
These poor weekend warriors, one weekend a month, and 6 weeks training are humiliated. They signed on to assist with natural disaster or foreign Country invasion like Pearl Harbor. They signed on to supplement their full time jobs! NOT THIS, NO NOT THIS! Arm against their own? ❤️Goes out to them.
You do not have to follow these orders UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO. A very poor excuse because you know you can get out of it.
Just following orders, sounds familiar.
Ask them if they ever expected to be GI Joe dolls for a demented orange man baby
They should at least be picking up trash
It was rejected when Calley tried it in the aftermath of My Lai Massacre as well.
Spot on
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Facist enablers
Just following orders. Heard that before. It won’t work
He learned his Nazi well. Too bad it doesn't work at Nuremberg where they should be
Just following orders? Hmmmmm Doesn’t seem like a good defense in court. Ohhhhhhhh right, it isn’t.
That's what the soldiers who herded people into gas chambers said too. "Just following orders"
Fucking idiots don't know their mission. Just following orders. Might as well have a Nazi arm band on their sleeve.
Confronting soldiers and using them to vent outrage is likely to backfire. They are working class. They are the symptom. Unite under common humanity not common enemies. Go after policy makers not victims of it. This could just anger moderates. We need win hearts not arguments
waste&fraud Jerked from their lives, families/jobs-for? Picking up dangerous trash? And taxpayers foot the absurdity
"I was just following orders." was ruled as not a defense during the Nuremberg trials when the orders are illegal and violate the law or the Constitution.
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NAZIS
He’ll be demoted by morning
Not an illegal order to deploy to DC. He can't refuse the order Will change in the blink of an eye. A bad call from a scared kid Trump is counting on it He fired all the JAGs. This kid is on his own Trump will rot in Hell for eternity like he is decomposing in front of our eyes I hope, soon
Traitorous fucks. They all need to be prosecuted when this is over. All of them Nuremberg style
Follow up questions to any military member that offers that response: "Have you thought about whether those orders you're following are LEGAL orders? How are you going to determine that if you don't know what the MISSION is or don't know if the mission accords with the Constitution?
You guys forget that Nuremberg happened only after Germany is defeated in war. That took four countries along with their allies.
#Neurenbergtrials
Didn’t work for the nazis, won’t work for him.
In his defense, he’s just standing there. He might not be willing to shoot at civilians
Decentralize now! Centralization creates followers. De-Centralization creates individuals. One of these 2 the governement/1% doesn't like!
The 1% could NEVER exist without the help of SNAKES like these people! Following orders blindly. Even expressing them self as the victim of it when caught. hiding behind their job. Doing the DIRTY work for them.
just following orders. This is exactly what is bleeding this world out! I'm sorry sir, i'm only doing my job Yes you r right but my protocol/rules say Pls sir I need this job, i'm to old, i have kids,. Snakes with no SPINE, from ACAB to military, from a grocery store to government! All empty shells.
To bad they don't read the constitution Their deployment is illegal.
Can’t even see who he is talking too…..are they wearing urban camouflage?
Just following orders...
Nuremberg could be in your future unless you use your common sense.
'Just following orders.' Sound familiar?
I could've sworn I've heard that excuse before..... Oh yeah, the Nazis after they were caught. 🙄🙄
Clearly, they are holding up the building.
Keeping the floor from rising into the sky.
They deserve clarity of mission
“Just following orders” is generally not a good mission when you are the military and your Commander in Chief is an insurrectionist who praises US enemies like Putin.
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Shameful af
Nazis used that excuse as well, history is repeating itself.
Unfortunately only repeating for those of us who learned about it!
Ah. The Nazi excuse. Read about the Milgram study, boys.
They don’t want to be there
then quit the fucking guard! and tell the world why! ffs, is everyone a cowardly sheep?
Apparently
Wasn’t a sufficient answer at the Nuremberg Trials
Just following orders 🤔 Seems I’ve heard that before…
And when the orders are to harm American citizens....what then?????
Just following orders. That's what the schnatzis said.
They hung a lot of guys for just following orders in a place called Nuremberg, Germany. About 80 years ago.
My very first thought
Giving illegal orders makes you a criminal. Following illegal orders makes you a criminal, and also the superior officer who gave it. 🫡😵🤷♂️
Embarrassing
Nazi says what?
They seemed very uncomfortable trying to answer the question.
Enjoy Nuremberg, kiddo.
My reaction to his “just following orders” statement, that defense won’t hold up in court.
Know who else said that? Every guy found guilty at Nuremberg, and it didn't work for them either.
Just following orders how scary is that...
America is being policed by a 2.0 grade point average.
Is that on the bell curve in a bad year?
"Mein Kampf" maybe
Just like the Nazis, Nuremberg trials did not go far enough.
that was the smartest interview answer he can give though. anything else would incriminate either himself or someone else in charge when you join the military, all you do is do what you're told. you wake up when you're told, you go to bed when you're told, you kill who you're told
You are allowed to refuse an unlawful order though.
as a civilian, I have the right to refuse a search and a pat down. that didn't stop the cops from doing either one of them right before I talked to their captain. in the end, because of that, the entire stop was dismissed.
I'm 6 and 0 in court now, nailed the police a couple of times here in Canada on violations. Not many police know the laws or rights really.
right before being court-martialed, yes. but there are consequences to every action. whether they're good intentions or not
They sure have grounds for it.
They looked uncomfortable. They don’t want to be there. The one even said have a great day. They don’t want conflict. I just hope they have their conscience and morals at the right moment. This is sad.
Them being young ashamed idiots doesn't make it better. They all should know about "Just following orders."
Most of these guys sign up for job security because they’re from rural or urban disadvantaged communities. I don’t see the same outrage at the generals who replaced the 4 stars who trump fired. I think the perps are ice who seem happy to jail anyone colored for a bonus or hard on
Okay, well here is the same outrage. We just can't walk up to them so openly. You truly think people aren't constantly mad at the government for not shutting him down too?
Can you rephrase that. Who is the government shutting him down?
Fair, I was drunk and it is very off. The generals can't be approached, and we're very mad at every member of the government not doing anything. Treason charges could come from the generals just as much as they could come from congress. Congress is controlled, generals/judges should be independent.
They don’t. If they did, they wouldn’t be there.
Yeah and they should be uncomfortable. They should feel shame about what they're doing.
I'm pretty sure they do, that seems pretty obvious. And we can of course lean back and criticze them for following orders, but that's what soldiers do initially. To compare these individuals at this point to Nazi Germany and Mai Lai is of course cursory – the actual culprit resides in the WH. 😉
Exactly- that’s the remnants of their conscience
This administration has no respect for the Armed Forces or the guard.
“Just following orders.” JFC. Does anyone still believe these kids won’t turn their weapons on civilians when they’re ordered to?
It's misplaced to pick on them. They have no choice in this. They signed up to fight foreign enemies and help out in natural disasters. They don't want to be used as political props, but they're not allowed to say so, either.
“Just following orders.” Sieg freaking heil. 😱
Just admitted you violated your oath, dummy.
Just following orders didn’t work at Nuremberg!
The National Guard is picking up trash in DC. A mission that none of them signed up for.
Unfortunately the NG signs up to obey the constitution, which doesn’t prohibit them from picking up trash, which they accomplish so well after natural disasters and we all thank them for. Picking up trash is honorable but moving NG at great expense to fight “crime “ and pick up trash, is not
I feel sorry for the national guard. The toddler in the White House it’s just making up bullshit and using them like ponds on a chessboard the national God deserve better than the way. They’re being treated right now.
Well ask the Gestapo how that worked out for them… oh right they were executed for following orders
That’s why maga loves militia. Just following orders.
Its possible they weren't given a mission. Just follow orders if/when given.
boy needs to read up on nuremburg trials. that defense does not fly.
Ask them how it feels to be back in Mosul...
Apparently never heard of julius & ethel.
They should be required to watch all the episodes of the 1978 series "The Holocaust." Cause they haven't got a clue...
She should have said “oh just like the brown shirts? Isn’t that the EXACT same thing they said?”
He can't. Trump banned the books.
There’s always a little one.
JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS! I blame the history teacher and their school for ffs!
So was the gestapo. I’m just following self imposed orders asshole🖕
And “just following orders” was not deemed a valid excuse at Nuremberg.
Thanks... Ripped the words right out of my mouth! These folks need to learn some history!!
Wow the next question should have been “even if those orders are unlawful?”
Clueless drones
Dummies
Oh dear...can his mommy explain the problem to him?
Ask him who he's gonna shoot w that gun
Think how evil you have to be to put people who NEED the paycheck into a situation where they know that if they refuse to obey illegal orders, there will be punishment first, their lives ruined, and with no due process they might never be vindicated.
This is the first time I've seen them with actual weapons. That tells me that they are 31B, Military Police. They tend to be more like cops than soldiers, and 𝙣𝙤𝙗𝙤𝙙𝙮 likes them.
Remember when 16-year-olds lied about their age to join the war to protect their country. They went overseas to fight and die in combat. These people don't have a fkn clue what war is.
My grandpa did. He lied about his age to join the navy during WWII. I’m glad he’s not alive to see what’s happening now.
History doesn't repeat. It rhymes
This is why Republicans want an ignorant populace.
Like this, nimrod? Those orders are illegal, set in place by a demented madman.
These fucking cosplay clowns....
“Just following orders” is what the NAZIS said!
Ask if the would put their heads up their asses if asked????
I saw in another video they are actually there to pick up garbage too. They are intimidated tactics. Who is scared of anyone picking up garbage. Don’t let Trump scare you. Like with everything else he will be remembered also as a failed dictator. Vote 💙
The phrase "just following orders," also known as the Nuremberg defense, was a defense used by Nazi officials during the Nuremberg trials. They argued they were not personally responsible for war crimes because they were simply obeying orders from superiors like Hitler.
And in that case they would have been murdered for not following orders. In this case, what would these numpties suffer to refuse illegal orders? Because it certainly isn't death.
They really ought to be watching how 🍊🤡💩 is treating the current veterans. One day, hard as it is for the young to believe, *they* will be the veterans. And a leopard never changes it’s spots, but *does* eat faces.
Exactly.
Just following orders didn’t save anyone at the Nuremberg trials!!
And yet he goes somewhere and says he's in the military and someone will parrot "thank you for your service". At some stage people will clock on that all service is not equal!
This makes me think of the Sound of Music when Liesl’s boyfriend shows up in his Hitler Youth Uniform. I remember my heart sinking into my stomach when I saw it as a kid. I am having that same feeling everyday seeing this in my own country.
Yes, this ain’t the movie and most of us can be convinced to be as evil as sh!t if the script changes. Humans have shown the sme proclivity for good and evil since day one, fortunately good as survived 50.5 to 49.5. Saving ourselves is not a forgone conclusion. It’s a hope.
Careful, it’s the hope that kills you.
I’m 77. Think the hope has kept me alive, it’s the over indulgence in booze that will kill me. Also I have had aids for half my life so as Alexander pope said “hope springs eternal”. I hope you all can be as happy as I have been for most of my life. I really HOPE that. I love Mamdani’s happy eyes.
Seems like positivity has ruled in your favor! That's my humble opinion! Best to ya!
Someone should have a sign saying the pedophile is making them look like suckers and losers like he said our military were
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History has heard that response before....
“Just following orders” didn’t work for the Nazis and it won’t work for you pal.
Someone needs to explain Nuremberg to them …
Some Nazis were just following orders! WTF!
Just following orders won’t be an excuse when you go to be held accountable for your betrayal of the American people which you intended to hurt in someway physically mentally or psychologically just like it didn’t work in the Nuremberg trials. I can’t wait for you to pay for your traitor behavior.
I hope someone tells him that the gestapo were only following orders too.... WAKE THE F*CK UP KID!
“Following orders” won’t protect them. Hopefully they passed their HS history class and are aware of that.
Nuremberg defense in play.
Since everyone is mentioning Nuremberg I will add it did not work for Lt Calley after the massacre at My Lai.
It should also be noted that Calley received a life sentence which was reduced to 20 years, reduced to 10 then three days later commuted to three and half years of house arrest for his culpability of 22 murders. He served three years of house arrest.
Yeah but it worked for the 99 other participants who committed the massacre. Out of the 100 troops, only 26 were charged and all charges except those of Calley were dropped. They killed, tortured and raped around 500 people that day.
Nazis who sent people to death camps where "just following orders" so when they're ordered to do that will they? will they "follow the orders" then?
That defense didn't work at the Nuremberg Trials.
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Someone should ask: do you know what fascism is, and that Hitler rose to power the exact same way Donny is, and do you understand that you're follow orders of a fascist nutjob who is taking our democracy?
What would you have them do about it?
Go home. Quit
Not a good idea. Then the army and police will only be people who will do whatever they are told. 🤷♂️
Imagine if all of them were true patriots and went home.
They'd be punished. And then they'd be jobless, and probably homeless.
And if they don't, they're going to be without a democracy.
Pretty sure some national guard guys deciding not to pick up trash in DC isn't going to save democracy. Their refusal of orders here won't help anything, it'll only harm them. It's easy to say you'd have the principles to ruin your life behind a keyboard.
And it's easy to say they should do nothing, that it won't help anything and only harm them. Is that what you'll say when they come knocking on your door?
I'm not saying to do nothing, I'm saying to take actions that are meaningful, and avoid harm where possible. Advocating for a bunch of service members to be homeless because they happened to get picked for Trump's dick measuring isn't helpful to anything.
Stop following illegal orders from a fraudulent regime
They’re not illegal orders, though. Immoral, certainly, unpalatable definitely, but they are the legal orders of the lawfully elected president.
refusing a lawful order is grounds for anything from non judicial punishment to discharge. A dishonorable discharge or an other-than-honorable discharge can be as bad as a felony conviction for getting jobs after you get out. You're asking for mass joblessness for veterans. We have enough of that.
I’m asking for ethical protest of Drumpf’s amoral & unAmerican orders to right the ship that is the US and restore healthy military and economy 🤷♀️
An ethical protest means they still have to follow the orders as long as they're lawful. They've no doubt complained to their command, their command has no doubt complained up the chain, but beyond that there's not much that can be done.
Each one of us decides what ethical protest means. For me, ethical > legal. If they’ve exhausted every ‘legal’ or bureaucratic method of complaint, time to disrupt the normal mode since this is NOT a normal time/ challenge. We’re ALL gonna be out of work & food & luck, if we don’t stand up NOW!
...and a healthy government which is a democracy.
💯💯💯
turn their weapons on the fascists
Nuremberg defence....pathetic
You could be home with your families. You could be getting some projects done before winter sets in. You could be sitting by the surf enjoying a beer. Can't you see that the orange goblin is stealing your life? Release the Epstein files.
They better not say: “Just following orders” if they are told to shoot American citizens. That won’t fly. They should go online and see what happened at the Nuremberg trials.
Lack of historical memory is a curse.
To be fair, standing around is not a war crime.
Which is why felon 47 brought in NG troops from redneck states to black communities, because they will follow his unlawful orders!
Lex Luther is plotting to steal the Lincoln Memorial.
This is decades of the Republicans purposefully damaging our education system. He probably doesn't understand the implications of that admittance.
Just following orders, won't cut it in a court of law.
It does if it was a lawful order.
Respectfully, placing National Guard members on duty in American cities is unconstitutional and accordingly each Guard has a duty to honour their oath and disobey said orders.
Wrong. The National Guard can be deployed anywhere under the President's discretion and disobeying a lawful order is a court martial offense.
Respectfully the President is violating the Constitution by deploying the NG therefore it is not a 'lawful order' hence Oath Takers are bound by said oath to disobey. National Guards have come out and stated the Presidents' order is unconstitutional.
Most are unlawful, his fake emergencies are unlawful.
True. Most are frivolous BS he uses as an excuse.
Makes me sad and angry.
Just following orders did not work for Nazi's. Remember that.
That defense got Hitler's finest a long drop with a sharp stop!
“I just followed orders” didn’t work after WW2 and will not work now!!
Right!
Educate them quickly. Judgment at Nuremberg movie?
They are being put in a terrible position. Keep your interactions civil, non threatening. None of them want to be there. Most have families and kids. This is a show of force by a wanna be dictator. Don't give him any reasons to activate these guys
Did anyone tell them?
Those who don’t learn or remember history are doomed to repeat it. We don’t even have to go back to Nuremberg Trials- see what OH Nat’l Guard did at Kent State in June ‘69
Its sucks to be the National Guard right now. Pawns in a dictator wanna be plot.
just-following-orders!!!…..heard that before!!!!
That’s what the Nazis said at the Nuremberg trials. 😐
The white boy answer
Just following orders…that’s what hitlers Gestapo said after they lost the war!!! 😡😡😡😡
Just following orders…waiting to be ordered to kill fellow Americans…
Good time for this kid to become acquainted with the Nuremberg Trials.
The mission is to massage Trump's Dictatorial ego.
So what’s worse, these troops that don’t know what the mission is in DC, or the millions of dupes that watch right wing U.S. GOP media & really believe the BS that Dem cities are overrun with crime, even when GOP cities & states, are worse, per capita?? I say the dupes that vote GOP take the cake!
They are the same demographic
No. A lot of these folks joined for college money or health insurance. We have an economic draft.
It’s the media. Most white people have never experienced violent crime. Most violent crime is gang or drug related and happens in poor areas, white and black. Pay people a living wage to do unskilled jobs, like street sweeping or pay more to lock em up.
They want to be there even less than we want them to be there
Just following orders is not an excuse...
The mission is for the potus to "pit" American soldiers against American citizens. I consider this dictatorship!!
"Just following orders? Ok... I'll have a bacon double cheeseburger and a chocolate milkshake."
OOOooo…historically-speaking, that is THE wrong answer, lil’ fella.
This whole thing is a political stunt so take your questions to the politicians rather than the line troops who are at this point following lawful orders.
Embarrassing 😳
Traitors betraying the Constitution
Oh my god! I can’t believe that he doesn’t get the historical context of that infamous statement.
This is why they love the poorly educated …
It's what they all say. To stupid to think for themselves.
Nuremberg trials. Bet he doesn’t even know what it was
They know they look like fools.
No one has found the path to defeat the fascist fucks in the WH. No elected pols, citizens, media, or SPC in the NG. These SM's are directed to help Fed Law goons under the guise of safety. It's their LEADERS who are following unlawful orders & putting troops in harms way. Officers/NCOs sound off!
thought they pick up litter now. 😆
Ask them if the mission is to fire on their fellow citizens, will they?
We need a new national service requirement. Serving in the military would be one option. We seem to only have loser morons in our military now. Dangerous.
Nuremberg, dickheads will learn
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Naaaaw someone like Hitler could NEVER EVER rise to power again…
Soldier: I'm carrying a gun while I pick up trash in a park, and I'm wearing a bright orange vest over my cammo. Everything is upside down, ma'am. Honestly, I was just trying to make some extra weed money.
That kid needs to read the UCMJ
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Obviously he doesn't know he can refuse to obey unlawful orders
Isn’t just following orders what the Nazis said?
"just following orders"... We need to do a MUCH MUCH MUCH better job at educating children because even if that is the answer he has in his head, one would think he'd never ever let those fucking words come out of his face hole.
Just like a good Nazi. WTF
"Befehl ist Befehl"....😳
That's because he is just following orders. It was a lawful order. You act like he working at Walmart and can quit anytime he wants to.