Riddle me this, Batman: If a woman is a female And a females produce ova and carries young. Why does a trans woman claim valor. When she can’t do either one? Taxonomy trap. For duuuuudes.
Riddle me this, Batman: If a woman is a female And a females produce ova and carries young. Why does a trans woman claim valor. When she can’t do either one? Taxonomy trap. For duuuuudes.
So you hate women huh?
He's got a massive misogynistic fetishization going with that "valor" fantasy.
More like ”stolen valor” :)
Everything is about hate this, phobia that -ist and gobbledygook. What is wrong with you people? A perfectly valid question is asked to you and answer with the most ridiculous responses ever. All you convince me of is that science has left academia.
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"females produce ova and carry young" - a patriarchal assertion masquerading as scientific fact, which rather highlights that transphobia is a fascist attack on bodily autonomy, defence of cisheteronormativity and reinforcement of women as a tool of patriarchal society.
It’s the dictionary definition and it’s scientifically true according to taxonomy. It had nothing to do with patriarchy, only taxonomy.
Isn't a trans woman considered a woman according to the dictionary? It absolutely has something to do with patriarchy, regardless of taxonomy being involved or not, because the meaning of the word came when patriarchy had more power than it does now.
No, it just means that the females in any species produce ova and since trans women dont produce ova they don’t fit the description of a woman (adult female human) as they claim they do.
How do you know if someone produces ova or not when you meet them for the first time?
Because a trans woman produces spermatozoa
How do you know when you meet someone?
Defenitionally they do.
But how do you know when you meet someone?
There are different ways to test : Crocodile dundee had his test. There are swab tests you can do to confirm. Visual clues and indicators :)
The dictionary your using contradicts you though. Despite certain trans woman not being able to produce ova. They are still seen as women.
It doesn’t contradict me. I’m saying trans women aren’t women, and the dictionary agrees yet again. They don’t produce ova. Which is why you find trans women described under trans women and not women. They’re trans.
Except the dictionary calls them women. "a woman who was considered to be male at birth" The dictionary disagrees with you and calls them women.
A woman who is male at birth is still a male . Still produces spermatozoa and not ova.
Yet the dictionary still calls them a woman, despite being male. "a woman who was considered to be male at birth" They are women.
Correct, which is why trans women needs the trans- part. Trans women are trans women, not women.
Dictionaries capture the meaning of words at a point in time - their definitions are socially constructed, just like "women" "female" "gender" etc are. Our history is heavily shaped by patriarchal norms, which influenced people's understanding. Modern scientific research affirms trans autonomy.
Also; taxonomy doesn’t work of social constructs. It’s very heavily tied to reality, not norms and conducts in drum circles.
Reality... as interpreted by scientists influenced by a patriarchal society... which produce taxonomies based on a socially enforced gender binary that affects their perception of the body. Modern research has identified these old biases and moved to science that incorporates LGBTQ existence.
In other words: left science behind in favor of social activism. Which produces 0 results and is a waste of tax payer money.,
Scientists have always been social activists, because science will always produce data and research that comes into conflict with existing power structures. Transphobia is a waste of taxpayer money, actively harms millions of families' social life and lets fascists gain more power, like today.
No. That’s a blatant lie. Many scientists from Ancient Greece lived before politics were even invented. Today’s university bums are activists and science have left campus . Thank you for admitting what we’ve all been suspecting for a while. Cut funding for universities. Privatization inc.
Throwing the toys out of the pram because the science doesn't agree with transphobia and demanding scientists and universities lose their funding - classic right wing authoritarian behaviour, tale as old as time. "Before politics were invented" is a new one though! Wow
Throw your transphobia out the window, you made universities completely useless by throwing all of science out of it. It’s the consequences of your own action, dumbass. Either respect what came before or lose what it built for you. Activist scum.
But taxonomy is shaped by definitions and intricate traits for all flora and fauna. It disproves the statement ”trans women are women”. How does modern science work around taxonomy?
Taxonomy concerns classifications, which are human interpretations of already-existing things. These interpretations are shaped by our social world - for instance, racist scientists once claimed that black people were genetically devolved, which we now recognise as nonsense. Transphobia is the same.
Pffffft. What a weak response. Taxonomy works without your socially constructed lens of interpretation. This has nothing to do with transphobia either. It’s a simple scientific inquiry: can a trans woman ovulate ? If yes , she’s a female and therefore a woman. If no, she’s not a female. Binary
That isn't science, that's your opinion, influenced by centuries of patriarchal expectations of women as mothers to men's children. Ovulation exists independent of what some conservatives claim define us. Modern science has moved on from conservative attitudes.
It’s not my opinion , it’s a biological fact that ovulation happens . We call those who ovulate female. Women are adult female humans. Trans women claim to be women. Do they ovulate? No, then they are not women. What you use is just word political word salad.
Ovulation exists; the application of social constructs like "female" and "woman" as an inherent truth is ideological (one that erases more than just trans ppl because it is a patriarchal, not scientific) Modern scientific research has moved past such outdated assumptions. Transphobia keeps it alive
It follows a scientific definition, not a socially constructed one or an ideological one. Demonstrate that claim. Inherent truth is different from textbook definitions. If your not gonna conform to agreed upon terms than why even bother having a discussion? Words are meaningless under your logic.
Actual biologists are fully aware that classifications are just best guesses used to help wrap their heads around concepts. They argue and joke about it all the time. Please stop pretending to have knowledge and understanding which you do not.
Please stop pretend like you guys have Jobs. Holy fuck you’re delusional.
My dude, you're not even subtle about being a rebranded Creationist.
And you’re not being subtle about being an old school activist destroying yet another monument of human endevours. Academia.
"Throw out peer reviewed studies" this guy earlier lol
Yes, since they didn’t adress the inquiry 🤦 A gender studies peer reviewed paper is completely useless since it has no predictive capability and no explanatory power.
Your confession to not having any idea what encyclopedias are is very persuasive or something. Please learn words from sources other than an old word of the day calendar.
There’s only ever been one source for words. The dictionary. Why would you ever speak English otherwise? Did you mean: gurrpadurpadruuuu? No. Because we use the dictionary.
Where do you think the words come from that go into dictionaries? Do you think that some people just sat around making words and that's how language is made? Languages evolve, just like our understanding of gender has evolved. Do you think the dictionary writers have no possible biases?
Biases in the doctionary 😂 ”Look, they are racists! It’s say it right here; page 208.” Fuck off! Sex = what’s between your legs. Gender = what’s between your legs for prudy Christians. Gender identity = what someone feels they are in their heads. It’s the only coherent framework there is.
archive.is/qVozv Yes, dictionaries have the biases of their writers or do you only think the n-word became offensive in 1999 when Merriam-Webster defined it as offensive. I thought you said ova make a woman, and therefore sex is not based on what's between ones legs as ovaries are above the hips 🤔
What n word? And ; females produce ova- yes they women are females.
Ok, so why do we check the sex box on birth certificates without performing imaging to know which gonads they have? What is the sex of someone born without gonads? What is the sex of someone born with one of each gonad?
We dont need imaging if we have visual confirmation. But you COULD get the sex test done before birth and they don’t take gonads into account then either as they use the vaginal wall as a confirmation point on X-rays. sex is just penis or vagina. Ovotesticular variations are just hermaphroditism.
Dumbass, we are all more than our ability to make kids! who we are, and our worth does not start and stop at kids. Stop pushing this BS, its pathetic.
I’m not the one pushing anything. I only ask questions , something you should encourage and welcome. I have no agenda or stake in the game.
Lol bro, your agenda is very clear.
Spell it out for me, please :)
Spread transphobic nonsense :)
…Not much of an agenda……
you are a mindless bigoted prick pushing your bigtory. piss off back to twitter.
Why are all vocal transphobes sexual harassers and most of them molester apologists or worse?
This is how the church of Scientology operates. You guys are in cult xD
Found one.
Found one what?
We have had this discussion, Edward. You do not have to produce ova or “carry young” to be female. My grandmother is female. She produces no ova, I assure you.
Wrong for a fourth time.
Yes you do have to produce ova, as that’s the definition of a woman. Your grandmother is female , as menopause is a part of the ovulation process . She has produced plenty of ovas during her menstrual cycle.
Not all females do that though you piece of shit Nazi cunt.
So once a woman hits menopause and she's no longer capable of reproduction, is she still a woman? What about women who have their tubes tied? Or a hysterectomy? As those people still women? Or something else?
They are still women, with internal or external factors preventing them from ovulating. You have to interject (either spontaneously or deliberately) to stop women from ovulating.
You're arguing "because in another timeline I've imagined", bran genus
But they've stopped ovulating. By your definition, they are no longer women because science has stopped the ovulation process
Menopause is a part of ovulation just like the ref’s final blow ends the game.
I'm only 53, haven't ovulated in a couple years, my "game" isn't even close to over. Being done with menstruation is incredibly freeing, it feels like I'm just getting started on something good.
(Man! I Feel Like A Woman! by Shania Twain starts playing)
A great song that transphobes have never once gotten mad at, even though it themes lie directly in the path of their hatred of identity. Copromouse here cannot be even slightly consistent unless he 100% despises it on principle.
So womanhood is a game, and once you hit menopause, womanhood is over?
Why do you people always ask the dumbest questions? Does a player stop being a player because the match is over? When did i say Womanhood is a game? Why do you refuse to answer my question ?
You're the one who compared menopause to a referees whistle. Tends to signal the end of a game or match. A player is still a player, but the game itself is over. That's it.
You got it:) move on now.
Definitely not.