Jewish atheists: God isn’t real but that’s not my business Christian atheists: God isn’t real and I’m going to make it everyone’s problem
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What in the world is a Christian atheist?
aug 25, 2025, 12:19 am • 18 0 • view
People who have given up Jesus but kept everything else about Christian culture. Including, sadly, the desire to convert everyone they encounter to their beliefs.
aug 25, 2025, 11:12 pm • 6 0 • view
You can't convert folks to a nonbelief
aug 26, 2025, 12:12 am • 0 0 • view
They certainly try.
aug 26, 2025, 12:13 am • 8 0 • view
No they don't. It's not possible. They might be assholes but they're not converting. That doesn't even make sense.
aug 26, 2025, 12:14 am • 0 0 • view
Let’s say A is an atheist and B is a theist. A keeps jumping into discussions that B is having with B’s theist friends, insisting that B acknowledge that atheism is correct and that all religions are sources of evil in the world. A is trying to convert B to A’s worldview. A is also an asshole.
aug 26, 2025, 12:23 am • 6 0 • view
Again, you cannot convert someone to a nonbelief
aug 26, 2025, 12:24 am • 0 0 • view
No, but you can try. And believe me these assholes (specific people; not all atheists) do try. I didn’t say they were smart.
aug 26, 2025, 12:33 am • 4 0 • view
I don't think you're comprehending what I'm saying so we'll just have to digitally part ways
aug 26, 2025, 12:39 am • 0 0 • view
But beyond that, a belief that there are no gods is still a belief. We have no facts in evidence either way. An affirmative belief in the nonexistence of something is actually not that different than an affirmative belief in the existence of something.
aug 26, 2025, 12:45 am • 3 0 • view
"affirmative belief in nonexistence" might be my most favorite phrase ever
aug 26, 2025, 12:56 am • 0 0 • view
Atheists who have a Christian chip on their shoulder and don’t see the problem with other religions catching strays from their Christian-specific resentment and animosity On top of that they inherit obnoxious characteristics of Christianity, Islamophobia, proselytism, self-righteousness, judginess
aug 27, 2025, 8:36 pm • 2 0 • view
Atheists who were raised with a Christianity-dominant understanding of religion
aug 25, 2025, 12:34 am • 45 0 • view
Which means all of them.
aug 27, 2025, 2:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Like literally 95% of all people in the USA. We are indoctrinated since birth. Do you know for certain that atheists in Israel are any different?
aug 25, 2025, 7:19 am • 1 0 • view
aug 25, 2025, 1:42 am • 10 0 • view
Right? It couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the fact that Jews aren’t trying to force us all to live the way they do, and Christians are. But sure sure, calling out the abuse is the ‘real’ problem. DARVO, anyone?
aug 25, 2025, 2:15 am • 6 0 • view
Religion is the problem.
aug 25, 2025, 2:27 am • 9 0 • view
There isn’t one single macro-construct encompassing all religious practices under a meaningful umbrella. Christianity demands correct belief. Judaism demands correct action. Jews can practice without believing in the Divine. They can just keep their commitments. Read a sociology 101 primer.
aug 27, 2025, 8:55 pm • 1 0 • view
It's really not though
aug 25, 2025, 12:01 pm • 0 0 • view
Is religion the problem or Christianity the problem Any Hindus bothering you
aug 25, 2025, 7:28 pm • 2 0 • view
Exactly. We don’t enact legislation to force our beliefs on ppl, getting women killed. Science trumps religion every time.
aug 25, 2025, 2:46 am • 5 0 • view
Jews make you finance their genocidal tendencies while playing the victim.
aug 25, 2025, 9:06 am • 1 0 • view
Christians. You’re supporting it 💯
aug 25, 2025, 2:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Huh?
aug 27, 2025, 8:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Happy to help here you go bsky.app/profile/aman...
aug 27, 2025, 8:24 pm • 1 0 • view
But what in that description, which describes a whole lotta people, I agree, makes them atheist? Do they not believe in God? It’s the atheist part I don’t get. And thank you for answering. I guess I’m looking for the definition of atheism as it’s being used here.
aug 27, 2025, 8:27 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m referring to people who are atheists while viewing religion through a Christian-centric lens. I’d recommend reading some of the replies from other Jews arguing with atheists in this thread who are insisting that atheist rabbis are *liars*
aug 27, 2025, 8:29 pm • 2 0 • view
Ah, ok. Thanks. I’m looking through it now.
aug 27, 2025, 8:31 pm • 0 0 • view
It has its difficulties but the term "culturally Christian" can be useful. If you grow up in an almost exclusively Christian environment that's going to be your default expectation of how religion works.
aug 27, 2025, 11:10 pm • 2 0 • view
This is probably why I didn’t really get it at first. Thanks
aug 28, 2025, 2:28 pm • 1 0 • view
It's weirdly easier to see in other, less hegemonic (where we are) religions. Non-believing Jews may still keep kosher, or kinda-keep it, or they may make a point of not doing so, but either way they're AWARE of the status of their food in a way a cultural Christian isn't.
aug 28, 2025, 2:32 pm • 1 0 • view
If someone doesn’t believe in god, how can they functionally be a Christian?
aug 27, 2025, 8:28 pm • 0 0 • view
They are not, they’re self-identified atheists who have not done any substantial work to learn about world religions beyond Christianity, so they attack minority religions for the flaws of Christianity
aug 27, 2025, 8:31 pm • 2 0 • view
Got it. So many of we human beings are arrogant about our beliefs, or even the lack of them.
aug 27, 2025, 8:36 pm • 0 0 • view
Going to guess exvangelical
aug 27, 2025, 4:40 pm • 1 0 • view
The other day and atheist on here spent over an hour trying to convince me I hated him. When I said I respected his opinion & wasn't interested in converting him he called me a liar that "wouldn't admit I hate him"? By the end of that exchange I didn't like him.. because he was a dick not atheism 🤷🏿♂️😂
aug 25, 2025, 2:17 am • 27 0 • view
🤣🤣🤣
aug 27, 2025, 9:59 pm • 1 0 • view
And what religion was he trying to convert you out of? Some people are insecure in how they feel, they have to convince others it's all fake so they can believe it's fake, because they doubt deep down if it's real and they'll really suffer for it
aug 25, 2025, 11:57 am • 2 0 • view
His argument was since I believe in Jesus I want him to suffer. I explained I expect no one who doesn't believe in Jesus to follow his values and I have atheist loved ones. That made him more upset?
aug 25, 2025, 5:21 pm • 3 0 • view
I guess he felt like you were tokenizing atheist people. The point of Jesus dying for our sins was not that anyone should suffer. This whole "you have to accept him as your savior" is control bullshit. You have to embody him, his aspects, his kindness and love. He is in the wheat and the wine, right
aug 25, 2025, 5:23 pm • 1 0 • view
So yeah, I think what I said does apply here. I think they said "Jesus died for you, so you have to believe what I tell you to" and he couldn't believe it, so he worries they were right, deep down, that he will go to hell because he couldn't believe it. Religious parents often fuck up their kids
aug 25, 2025, 5:25 pm • 0 0 • view
So then he blames you for perpetuating a belief that people who cannot believe will go to hell, he views that as a kind of hatred, like belief was never in his power and the expectation wasn't fair, so anyone who could believe he would go to hell hates him. I mean he may be right that he can't do it
aug 25, 2025, 5:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Still not an excuse to act toxic online to people who never hated anyone and are actually open minded haha sorry he was that way to you
aug 25, 2025, 5:28 pm • 0 0 • view
... You know Christian Fascists have taken control of the United States of America, banned abortion in much of the country, and are kidnapping people and occupying cities, right? Like the country is in the actual grip of actual Christian fascism. That's not abstract or contentious.
aug 26, 2025, 12:19 am • 1 0 • view
That’s because it’s Christian culture to convert people, and that’s not really a thing in Judaism.
aug 27, 2025, 8:08 pm • 0 0 • view
Christians have caused WAY more problems than Jews or Atheists so Christians are the bigger problem for everyone.
aug 25, 2025, 5:31 am • 0 0 • view
That's because Christians are the majority of the population and humans are generally problematic, so this was always going to be true
aug 25, 2025, 12:09 pm • 1 0 • view
32% is not the majority
aug 25, 2025, 12:12 pm • 0 0 • view
I mean, the majority of the population in JudeoChristian dominated nations, obviously. Because this debate doesn't happen in ones where another religion dominates.
aug 25, 2025, 12:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Christian-dominated nations. JudeoChristian isnt a thing.
aug 25, 2025, 10:18 pm • 2 0 • view
Obviously, you understood me
aug 25, 2025, 11:08 pm • 0 0 • view
I literally JUST got quoted by someone who said that all religions should be abolished because of American Christian homophobia. When I challenged them on Eastern and indigenous religions, they said that people should learn to think for themselves. As if Buddhism is anything besides thinking.
aug 25, 2025, 2:48 am • 27 1 • view
I was not aware Buddhism is counted as a religion
aug 25, 2025, 8:29 am • 0 0 • view
Different sects have different traits corresponding to philosophy and/or religious practice. There isn’t one single Buddhism.
aug 27, 2025, 8:45 pm • 0 0 • view
Monastic temples? Check. A head of the religion? Check. Women discrimination? Check It may not be that all buddhists are religious, but there definitely are buddhist religions.
aug 25, 2025, 11:26 am • 7 0 • view
Buddhism doesn't have "a" head of the religion. Some branches do, but not Buddhism as a whole.
aug 25, 2025, 10:11 pm • 3 0 • view
So, same as christianity?
aug 25, 2025, 10:13 pm • 4 0 • view
Maybe more like Sunni Islam? O Sufism? Judaism?
aug 25, 2025, 10:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Im not familiar enough with Islam or Sufism to say. Judaism is even more decentralized.
aug 25, 2025, 10:16 pm • 2 0 • view
I don't know. Judaism has a clear job description for their priests.
aug 25, 2025, 10:20 pm • 1 0 • view
These days it’s pretty much “be careful around cemeteries, carry this thing on Simchat Torah, and that’s about it. Do not rely on Christian education resources about Jews to understand Jews. You are not getting it from an honest broker.
aug 27, 2025, 8:48 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm not interested in the actual structure of judaism. I'm pointing out that buddism is very much a religion, even in the most hierarquical ways possible. It's not mostly thinking.
aug 27, 2025, 10:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Judaism hasn't had any Priests in about 2000 years, and even when we did the High Priest wasn't "the" head of the religion.
aug 25, 2025, 10:22 pm • 5 0 • view
So what does a Rabbi do?
aug 25, 2025, 10:40 pm • 0 0 • view
Pretty much.
aug 25, 2025, 10:14 pm • 2 0 • view
What is a Christian atheist? What does that even mean?
aug 25, 2025, 8:28 pm • 0 0 • view
Evangelical atheism
aug 25, 2025, 8:47 am • 4 0 • view
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aug 25, 2025, 12:15 am • 1 0 • view
It’s because we are more traumatized 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
aug 25, 2025, 4:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Unitarian atheists: god isn’t real and we never really saw why it would matter?
aug 27, 2025, 8:01 pm • 7 0 • view
See also: Quakers.
aug 27, 2025, 11:06 pm • 4 0 • view
Quaker Atheists: Is anyone else bringing bean salad to the potluck?
aug 27, 2025, 11:42 pm • 6 0 • view
I love the vibe, I am just too frivolous a person. But maybe I will evolve, gradually? It could happen!
aug 27, 2025, 11:47 pm • 1 0 • view
I think the problem is that Christians like to be jerks and then pretend they are being persecuted when people push back. Churches are pushing politics against the law, many don't think that gays, trans, or Muslims have the right to exist, and many support Trump and his racist agenda.
aug 25, 2025, 4:23 am • 0 0 • view
They push for things like forcing the 10 commandments in schools and ignore the separation of church and state. It's really no wonder people don't like them, they work hard to be unlikable. Not all of them but many are like this.
aug 25, 2025, 4:23 am • 0 0 • view
You failed to mention the reasons for the difference. Jews: I believe my religion is true, but that’s my business. Christians: I believe my religion is true, and I think everyone else should believe so. …
aug 25, 2025, 3:34 am • 7 1 • view
Jews aren’t constantly proselytizing, nor do they attempt to install their icons in our public spaces, indoctrinate everyone else’s kids with their mythology, or attempt to turn our country into a theocracy. Most atheists will become quiet just as soon as Christians do.
aug 25, 2025, 3:35 am • 7 0 • view
The obvious counterpoint being East Ramapo, where they didn't put Jewish icons in public schools, true. They directed public school funds to yeshivas and sold entire public schools to yeshivas at steep discounts, then filled them with Jewish curricula
aug 25, 2025, 4:45 am • 0 0 • view
I’m not familiar with that case, but it is obviously a rare exception. Though I suspect it would be more commonplace if Orthodox Jews held a majority in more areas.
aug 25, 2025, 4:56 am • 3 0 • view
Jewish Atheist Zionists "God isn't real but he promised me I could steal someone else's land, destroy their homes and culture and murder their babies, 3000 years ago"
aug 25, 2025, 5:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Seriously! It's so embarassing!
aug 27, 2025, 10:10 pm • 5 0 • view
See even though I KNOW this is about cultural christianity, which is real and the bane of my existence, but even then I have the urge to *um actually* this 😭
aug 25, 2025, 3:43 pm • 3 0 • view
I've had some personal run ins recently it's...a spiral.
aug 27, 2025, 4:18 am • 4 0 • view
Why not? Theists have made their delusions everyone's problem for millennia.
aug 25, 2025, 7:00 pm • 2 0 • view
I look forward to the day when people no longer use religion as an excuse to treat fellow humans as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth.
aug 25, 2025, 5:47 pm • 2 0 • view
We will just switch to something else, like hair color or accent. It is who we are as a species unfortunately.
aug 25, 2025, 7:25 pm • 3 0 • view
I know one who can get pretty self-righteous about it. Very irritating.
aug 25, 2025, 12:45 am • 3 0 • view
It’s already everyone’s problem, because christians won’t shut up about god.
aug 25, 2025, 6:37 am • 0 0 • view
If we all agree to shut up, will that work?
aug 25, 2025, 12:07 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes, but it will never happen. Evangelism is literally “not shutting up about it.”
aug 25, 2025, 7:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Raised with no religious overtones to celebrations like Xmas or Easter.They were just reasons to have presents, food & candy. Became part of a Jewish family. Was told you couldn't be a real Jew if your mother wasn't & they had impracticle rules. Add in patriarchy of all religions. Prefer no religion
aug 25, 2025, 2:21 am • 6 0 • view
I get the feeling that some atheists were Christian fundamentalists, and they changed the details, but not the black/white way of thinking. Yhey went from "If you're not a Christian, there's something wrong with you!" to "If you're not an atheist, there's something wrong with you!"
aug 26, 2025, 2:04 am • 6 0 • view
You see it with Christian Pagans, too. Their neo-paganism often reproduces Protestantism with different trappings.
aug 27, 2025, 11:05 pm • 1 0 • view
“Jewish atheist” “Christian atheist” wtf does that even mean?? Black white guy. pacifist murderer. Honest thief Smart American……….
aug 25, 2025, 4:22 pm • 1 0 • view
A priest, a rabbi, and an imam walked into a bar. The Atheist ducked.
aug 25, 2025, 2:38 am • 0 0 • view
aug 25, 2025, 4:17 pm • 3 0 • view
I haven’t looked yet, but I know deep within my bones that this is going to be empirically and dramatically demonstrated in the replies. I’m a Jewish apatheist. Does Hashem exist? Maybe? It doesn’t change my commitments.
aug 27, 2025, 8:09 pm • 28 0 • view
My rabbis, she told by a congregant that they don’t believe in God say,”ok, which god don’t you believe in?”
aug 27, 2025, 8:11 pm • 14 0 • view
It’s a classic line, but it’s also true. As long as you aren’t worshipping any other deity, you’re fine. We can negotiate with our Divine just as Abraham did. And sometimes that ends in saying no. That doesn’t make us stop being who we are.
aug 27, 2025, 8:23 pm • 12 0 • view
Had an Orthodox rabbi in HS explain clearly how one didn’t need to believe in god to be halakhically orthodox
aug 27, 2025, 8:32 pm • 12 0 • view
I was talking to a non-Jew about the Jewish stuff I do and she said, "wow, you must really believe in G-d" My reaction was, "huh, I don't think that's ever come up"
aug 27, 2025, 9:03 pm • 11 0 • view
Its bizarre - because, it's Elul, all the Jewish communication I get is taking stock, teshuva, etc. None of it is about "Is my faith in God strong enough"
aug 27, 2025, 9:08 pm • 11 0 • view
I don’t think “lack of belief in Gd” shows up in Al Chet.
aug 27, 2025, 11:13 pm • 4 0 • view
Bf told me a few hours ago he hopes it isn't too disappointing to me that he's an atheist who approaches tradition with skepticism and I was like "...?"
aug 27, 2025, 9:17 pm • 5 0 • view
Isra-el = "Stuggles with God"
aug 27, 2025, 9:23 pm • 4 0 • view
I'd be interested in how he reasoned this. IIRC it's in the beginning of the Mishneh Torah, Yesodei Hatorah "to know that there is Gd" etc.
aug 27, 2025, 11:32 pm • 0 0 • view
Rambam: I have written 13 principles of faith that every Jew must believe. Every Jew: Eh, pass.
aug 27, 2025, 8:43 pm • 18 1 • view
Rambam could be quite pedantic
aug 27, 2025, 8:44 pm • 3 0 • view
We got an excerpt of his laws of teshuvah in our Judaism 101 last night. My small group: “Why are we only getting these select points?” Me, googling: “Well, looks like he has ten CHAPTERS on teshuvah…” Group: “Oh!”
aug 27, 2025, 9:01 pm • 5 0 • view
He….had a lot to say.
aug 27, 2025, 10:32 pm • 3 0 • view
And most of it was well-argued. Most.
aug 29, 2025, 4:03 pm • 2 0 • view
Sorry to jump in as Christian Atheist, but maybe could we agree that some Christians take the God thing a little too far and in maybe some bad and weird ways?
aug 27, 2025, 9:17 pm • 0 0 • view
I don’t think you’ll find a Jew alive who disagrees with this
aug 27, 2025, 9:18 pm • 6 0 • view
Ah good. I’ve seen some weird stuff, for sure. I’m not gonna diss those food pantry Christians, if they agree to keep the weird from me.
aug 27, 2025, 9:26 pm • 1 0 • view
I mean no one would deliberately pick a user name like “christbot” as an atheist unless they’ve seen some funny stuff.
aug 27, 2025, 9:28 pm • 1 0 • view
It’s actually a problem for unhoused people that assistance is often inaccessible because it comes with religious demands, so actually—they don’t.
aug 27, 2025, 11:41 pm • 3 0 • view
Yes, being unhoused often means being subjected to sermons and compelled rites like baptisms in some cases. If you refuse to accept Christianity, you don’t eat or have a bed. And people from any religion can lose a place to live. I myself was couch surfing for a while.
aug 27, 2025, 11:47 pm • 3 0 • view
Honestly I like this. Whether Hashem exists isn't a materially important question for me
aug 27, 2025, 8:41 pm • 4 0 • view
Umm.."Christian " atheists? You might want to look up the meaning of the word, "Atheists". 🤔
aug 25, 2025, 2:14 am • 12 1 • view
My understanding is it's an atheist influenced by Christian beliefs. "I don't believe in God, but the god i don't believe in is Christian" Made sense to me because it described me. I don't really know much about Islam or other monotheistic religions because I was brought up as a Christian
aug 25, 2025, 4:37 am • 3 0 • view
It is an atheist that is heavily influenced by a society where Christianity is the dominant religion Hope that helps
aug 25, 2025, 4:38 am • 5 0 • view
To be a "Christian " requires baptism doesn't it? And to say someone's beliefs are influenced by Christianity, why? Because they say murder is a sin and I believe murder is bad. It's not Christianity that influenced that belief, it's my conscience. And remember an atheist doesn't believe in God.
aug 25, 2025, 12:34 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just telling you the definition I heard If you want to believe being Christian is murdering babies then you can do that too. It's a free country believe whatever you want Did you even read my second statement? Maybe it would have made more sense to you. Or maybe not
aug 25, 2025, 2:05 pm • 0 0 • view
Xtian atheists are atheists whose concepts of religion are based upon Xtianity - so things like not questioning religious texts, belief in the literal truth of religious texts, belief in a higher power being mandatory, etc. I am a Jewish atheist who knows those things describe Xtianity & not Judaism
aug 27, 2025, 5:17 pm • 15 0 • view
But you don't know why people have the religious convictions they have, what they have been exposed to, and what their life experiences are, so aren't you generalizing a little bit?
aug 30, 2025, 3:11 am • 0 0 • view
The idea that “religion” (here defined by the people arguing this way as “faith-based belief in a higher power”) can meaningfully be separated from “culture” is in and of itself a Christian perception of the world, which was developed as an aspect of Christianity’s evangelism.
aug 27, 2025, 9:34 pm • 3 0 • view
When she said my bio showing that I'm political was somehow proof of Christian influence showed she obviously didn't have a clue as to what she was talking about. It says I believe in democracy. Our democracy is based on Rome's system of government which was centuries before Christianity.
aug 27, 2025, 9:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Literally no idea what you’re talking about man I’m just replying to your misapprehension about what Christianity and atheism mean.
aug 27, 2025, 9:40 pm • 0 0 • view
👍✌️
aug 27, 2025, 9:48 pm • 0 0 • view
The idea being that you can go to a new place to spread the gospel and tell people, it’s okay, you don’t have to give up your Culture, just change your Faith—slot the Jesus into your existing cultural context and Become A Christian. But most religions don’t view it that way. Religion IS culture.
aug 27, 2025, 9:34 pm • 3 0 • view
“Atheist” just means not believing in god. It says nothing about whether you engage in any cultural practices of a religion. What do we call someone who practices all the cultural aspects of Christianity and holds all its fundamental beliefs, aside from the “god” part? That’s a Christian atheist.
aug 27, 2025, 9:39 pm • 1 0 • view
Everybody has to label now. People don't generally self apply the term atheist because they want to be associated with a religion.
aug 30, 2025, 3:08 am • 0 0 • view
How can someone be an atheist and still have a religion? If that’s a thing I am a Muslim atheist and I don’t care about former religions of fellow atheists. 🤷♂️
aug 27, 2025, 7:59 pm • 0 0 • view
I’d recommend you explore world religions a bit more, as many religions do not require a belief in a literal God to be a practicing member.
aug 27, 2025, 8:12 pm • 6 0 • view
What about Muslim atheists? Since we are labeling them all now.
aug 25, 2025, 3:52 pm • 3 0 • view
Humanistic Judaism will make these people's heads explode
aug 27, 2025, 8:05 pm • 6 0 • view
I’m an atheist Jew and I’m very active with my synagogue and community. I also take a “mind your business” approach to other people’s beliefs. You do you, I’ll do me, and we’re all good.
aug 27, 2025, 10:55 pm • 4 0 • view
This, but also when you say Christopher Hitchins sucks
aug 26, 2025, 1:46 am • 0 0 • view
Well, thing is, the word Jewish can mean a religion, an ethnicity, or both. So a person can be ethnically Jewish and an atheist... or even a Buddhist if they really wanted to. Christians can't say the same, though the really racist ones try to.
aug 25, 2025, 10:14 pm • 0 0 • view
I grew up in a Christian fundamentalist house and you are right. While I do scorn and make fun of the Christian religion, it's not my business to talk people out of their beliefs. People benefit from it, so who am I to argue?
aug 25, 2025, 1:01 am • 7 0 • view
What does belief have to do with Judaism though?
aug 25, 2025, 1:15 am • 6 0 • view
Don't know. That's for a Jewish person to explain if they are in the mood
aug 25, 2025, 4:00 am • 4 0 • view
That’s the point. People seem to think belief has something to do with religion.
aug 25, 2025, 4:02 am • 7 0 • view
Ok?
aug 25, 2025, 4:35 am • 3 0 • view
People benefit from it, maybe.. Society does not.
aug 25, 2025, 4:26 am • 0 0 • view
Not my place to say.
aug 25, 2025, 4:32 am • 0 0 • view
The “New Atheist” movement of Harris and Dawkins has done wild damage to the progressive secular movement.
aug 25, 2025, 12:20 am • 59 2 • view
Harris is Jewish, as was Lawrence Krauss. What damage did they do
aug 25, 2025, 4:28 am • 1 0 • view
They are both such terrible people, as are the people who appeal to them as experts.
aug 25, 2025, 3:53 am • 1 0 • view
I left church and religion when it was gaining steam. Joined a meetup group that served as a support group. I gradually moved away from the group over time and stopped attending altogether after 2016. The leaders went all the way down the path of free speech absolutism, and into more from there
aug 27, 2025, 4:35 pm • 3 0 • view
When I was at a group lunch in Oct 2016 and the leader said "if I hear someone complain about microaggressions again, I'm going to macroaggress them" I knew it was time for me to go.
aug 27, 2025, 4:37 pm • 6 0 • view
My close friend who'd recommended the group to me, already left it before I went to my first event there in spring 09. He told me he was tired of "atheist fundamentalists" I mentioned it to the group once and the reaction pretty much confirmed that my friend was right. Good times!
aug 27, 2025, 4:39 pm • 6 0 • view
Well, it did make it readily accessible to people who aren’t that smart, and that’s a pretty big pool
aug 25, 2025, 1:09 am • 13 0 • view
Cultural Christianity is such an terrible affliction
aug 24, 2025, 11:21 pm • 88 0 • view
Please expand.
aug 27, 2025, 2:33 pm • 0 0 • view
My favorite is when they insist vehemently that other religions are just like Christianity
aug 24, 2025, 11:22 pm • 97 0 • view
Thats how the Catholic Church suckered people into converting. By saying the gods other cultures worshipped were simply Christian Saints by other names. IE Papa Shango became ST James
aug 24, 2025, 11:28 pm • 4 0 • view
Of course. Just because Christianity misled them about its history and ideas doesn’t mean they were lying about anyone else! (They are absolutely terrible about this.)
aug 27, 2025, 8:28 pm • 1 0 • view
That’s one surefire way to get me to reply
aug 24, 2025, 11:29 pm • 9 0 • view
Hard to engage these folks when, as Brent Nongbri notes, some see "religion" (a medieval construct btw) as "anything that sufficiently resembles modern Protestant Christianity." Also, Christian atheists may be disentangled from the rituals and dogmas but not from the often accompanying jingoism.
aug 25, 2025, 12:06 am • 10 0 • view
I was the Token Jew in my secondary school (in the UK) so I got lots of, "Is Judaism is a race or a religion?" type stuff from other kids. I eventually ran out of ways to say "Both, and not quite either" and would just say there isn't an English word for it.
aug 27, 2025, 9:13 pm • 3 0 • view
Christianity isn't even just like Christianity!
aug 25, 2025, 1:46 am • 6 0 • view
When it comes to the treatment of women, I would say yes. But other than that, no.
aug 25, 2025, 1:50 am • 0 0 • view
I've gotten "magic sky daddy" comments when I've talked about Buddhism Like buddy if you're so rational and logical, read a fucking book or something
aug 24, 2025, 11:38 pm • 91 1 • view
Buddhism is the way.
aug 25, 2025, 3:52 pm • 4 0 • view
That what I've heard.
aug 26, 2025, 5:28 am • 1 0 • view
The revelations are jaw dropping, but in the end it leaves a lot of people a little disapointed.
aug 26, 2025, 3:18 pm • 2 0 • view
If they're disappointed it wasn't meant for them, the tools for confronting and overcoming disappointment with reality as a whole are built into the core of it, it's kind of ironic that the "shit sucks so do what you can about it" aspect is what people look for, but 180 when they fully -realize- it
aug 27, 2025, 2:57 pm • 2 0 • view
wait I thought that was Tao
aug 27, 2025, 11:50 pm • 1 0 • view
It is.
aug 28, 2025, 4:25 am • 0 0 • view
Or, they deny and vilify other religions where Jesus isn't involved. The supremacy of it all is exhausting.
aug 27, 2025, 9:40 pm • 0 0 • view
This is a dumb claim because Sam Harris, Lawrence Krauss and Michael Shermer are some of the New Atheists theists complain about most and they're all Jewish. And Hemant Mehta was raised Jain.
aug 25, 2025, 4:56 am • 1 0 • view
aug 25, 2025, 4:50 am • 0 0 • view
Not sure what you think a “Christian atheist” is. Every member of every OTHER religion is a Christian atheist. Plus those who are atheistic in an overall sense. Seems like you’re just trying to stir the pot without a lot of understanding. 🤷♂️
aug 25, 2025, 12:57 pm • 2 0 • view
A Christian atheist is an atheist who was raised in a family or culture where Christianity is dominant, and therefore had their atheism develop around and in response to those norms. Their understanding of the religion they reject will be informed by Christianity, and so too are their practices.
aug 27, 2025, 8:42 pm • 3 0 • view
So, for example, a Christian atheist is liable to be convinced that all religion concerns belief in some narrow collection of supernatural claims. Or they'll view proselytization as a critical religious practice, and may be given to proselytizing their own atheism.
aug 27, 2025, 8:44 pm • 2 0 • view
Don't get me started on Vegans. 😂
aug 25, 2025, 5:25 am • 2 0 • view
aug 25, 2025, 12:43 am • 0 0 • view
what does that even mean
aug 25, 2025, 8:53 am • 2 0 • view
Maybe bc I was raised Christian and abused, I don't think this way. I think there's something out there and everyone is free to believe what they want as long as it doesn't harm someone else or indoctrinate them. I can never understand some weirdos out there who cause more harm than good.
aug 25, 2025, 2:13 am • 3 1 • view
that late-00s skeptics movement just ruined it for everybody
aug 24, 2025, 11:22 pm • 20 0 • view
That’s specifically why I emphasised that I’m non-religious and never call myself an atheist ( more accurate too because it’s not that I believe there is no God or gods but that I don’t think the very concepts of them make sense )
aug 25, 2025, 12:45 am • 11 0 • view
Has there been some generally accepted evidence of the Divine that people have been talking about that everybody else missed? Or have we seen another genocide done in the name of religion?
aug 25, 2025, 4:57 am • 0 0 • view
Atheists of Jewish heritage (it me): God isn't real and these bread things aren't bagels.
aug 27, 2025, 9:27 pm • 0 0 • view
I once saw a “bagel” bread thing as part of a breakfast spread where they abandoned all pretense and just sliced it vertically into thin slices of bread
aug 27, 2025, 11:49 pm • 1 0 • view
Oh, this is a whole 'nother level of discourse, but I wouldn't want to hijack Amanda's thread, so I'll just leave this here for others to contemplate: slate.com/human-intere...
aug 27, 2025, 11:53 pm • 2 0 • view
Nonsense, but whatever. Now do “maga for christ” if you wanna be helpful.
aug 25, 2025, 12:59 pm • 1 0 • view
Bwa? How.. how do you have atheists from a particular religion? Like... what?
aug 25, 2025, 1:27 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm sure you're going to claim something about their point of view, but that's just culture.
aug 25, 2025, 1:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Christian atheists assume that every religion is faith-based like Christianity and Islam.
aug 25, 2025, 2:01 pm • 0 0 • view
so, culture.
aug 25, 2025, 2:02 pm • 1 0 • view
re·li·gion /rəˈlij(ə)n/ noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.
aug 25, 2025, 10:32 am • 0 0 • view
Holy shit, I've never seen a thread summon the people it's about so fast.
aug 25, 2025, 3:59 am • 19 1 • view
In my experience most Europeans tend not consider themselves atheists but mildly culturally Protestant, Catholic or Orthodox for old times' sake, while often not believing any of the shit or giving a fuck - save in places like N Ireland where it's more about national identity than religion
aug 25, 2025, 3:49 pm • 0 0 • view
You bet.
aug 25, 2025, 4:15 pm • 0 0 • view
pretty sure it's fundamentalists that are causing more issues for everyone than non-existent "Christian Atheists", which is an oxymoron.
aug 25, 2025, 1:56 am • 3 0 • view
Once an evangelist, always an evangelist. Just for a different religion. That said, I'm a Mormon turned atheist and IDGAF what you believe, just leave me and everyone else alone.
aug 25, 2025, 5:49 am • 10 0 • view
Don’t paint with too broad a brush.
aug 25, 2025, 1:54 am • 2 0 • view
Matt Yglesias follower.
aug 27, 2025, 10:12 pm • 1 0 • view
I was brought up Catholic, but began to question religion in my teens. It was horrible-no God? No final justice from a loving creator? It was lonely. I don’t believe, but I don’t ever want to take faith from anyone else. I still think Jesus’ teachings are valid & raised my adult child that way.
aug 25, 2025, 1:53 am • 0 0 • view
Christians insisting on imposing their evil, bullshit myth in law is everyone's problem.
aug 24, 2025, 11:31 pm • 44 1 • view
Which is the problem we have in this majority Christian society.
aug 25, 2025, 7:17 am • 1 0 • view
I'm confused. What are Christian atheists and Jewish atheists? To be atheist is the absence of any religious belief
aug 26, 2025, 3:06 am • 0 0 • view
Atheist means you don't believe gods or divine beings. Doesn't mean you don't practice a religion.
aug 27, 2025, 11:04 pm • 1 0 • view
So what are the practices that aren't related to worship that would classify someone as Christian or Jewish?
aug 27, 2025, 11:18 pm • 0 0 • view
Christianity is also a broad set of cultural beliefs, expections, and views about how the world works. The easiest example is secular Calvinism, where the moralistic and meritocratic beliefs of Calvinism are carried in to the nominally secular world. Things like people believing that poor people
aug 27, 2025, 11:23 pm • 1 0 • view
Deserve to be poor, sick people deserve to be sick, because they're lazy or don't have a strong work ethic or whatever. Whereas rich people all worked hard and got rich because they're inherently good. Look up "Secular Calvinism" and you'll find a lot of writing about it. It also ties deeply in to
aug 27, 2025, 11:23 pm • 0 0 • view
The belief systems of the American Civic Religion. As for Judaism, I'll let Jewish people explain that, but the very simple version is that Judaism is largely about what you do rather than what you believe.
aug 27, 2025, 11:23 pm • 0 0 • view
My favorite are the ones who are like, well I don't believe in the sky daddy, so obviously I'm more ~*rational*~.
aug 25, 2025, 1:02 am • 45 0 • view
Every time! Weird phrase to insist on using tbh
aug 25, 2025, 1:06 am • 32 0 • view
"Actually, Hashem doesn't really have a gend--" "SKYDADDY"
aug 25, 2025, 1:08 am • 44 2 • view
Hahahhhaa this this this all day and all night!
aug 25, 2025, 9:41 pm • 0 0 • view
There are no good, rational arguments for the existence of God.
aug 25, 2025, 4:30 am • 9 0 • view
Maybe because the definition of faith is belief without proof?
aug 25, 2025, 3:39 pm • 1 0 • view
Yeah, but belief without proof isn't virtuous. We're not required to treat it with deference or respect.
aug 27, 2025, 4:35 pm • 0 0 • view
It is neutral. And no one is asking for your deference. As to respect, basic human respect is all that is required of a decent person. Seems like you may have had some bad experiences. It will do no good for me to tell you this but there are many really decent religious organizations.
aug 27, 2025, 5:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes, they are asking for deference. Every argument with theists goes like this: "Atheism is irrational and theists are stupid! The evidence God exists is I saw a pretty sunset" "That's not evidence, that's vibes." "Well, then I'm better than you because I believe in things without evidence."
aug 27, 2025, 6:28 pm • 0 0 • view
No we're not. And I never said those things. And I'm a Christian.
aug 27, 2025, 6:31 pm • 0 0 • view
Every time theists attempt to prove God's existence goes like that. It starts with the claim they've got evidence. They just assume nobody would dare call their bluff. When you call their bluff, it's "Well I CHOOSE to believe in God. You can CHOOSE to believe in nothing" like that makes them better
aug 27, 2025, 6:39 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm an atheist Jew, what's your point.
aug 25, 2025, 3:41 pm • 9 0 • view
I have one, did you want one? Or do you just wish this was true so you never actually ask before concluding it?
aug 25, 2025, 12:12 pm • 0 0 • view
Go for it.
aug 25, 2025, 12:57 pm • 0 0 • view
We are one universe, a vast, interconnected process that exists in more than the 4 physical dimensions we physically experience: height, width, depth, and time. Particles can fold through time, they're small. They experience the higher physics physically, we cannot. But, these higher planes are not
aug 25, 2025, 12:59 pm • 0 0 • view
a place you can go to. They are dimensions of the same spacetime we inhabit. It is ONE universe, experiencing ITSELF. So, therefore if we are conscious, consciousness must exist on every plane of existence. Our physical one, the ones particles physically experience, and beyond. Consciousness is...
aug 25, 2025, 1:00 pm • 0 0 • view
an emergent property of matter and it is continuous across all of space and time. Now, whether or not that higher consciousness is something you can relate to, or should even try to relate to, is another question, and they don't have feelings or desires absent of us. We are the cells of the gods.
aug 25, 2025, 1:00 pm • 0 0 • view
This isn't a proof of God, or proof of anything. It's ooga booga from a George Harrison song. There is no conclusive proof of dimensions above 4-- string theory hasn't been proven. Even if there are dimensions above 4, so what? No consciousness we know "extends" into other dimensions.
aug 27, 2025, 4:39 pm • 0 0 • view
this is a beautiful way of thinking
aug 27, 2025, 2:09 pm • 1 0 • view
They don't even try any more, which is telling.
aug 25, 2025, 4:57 am • 0 0 • view
It's true most of the prominent New Atheists turned out to be bad people, or very bad in the case of Sam Harris and Lawrence Krauss. But even a broke clock is right twice a day. Disproving "rational arguments for the existence of God" really was like shooting fish in a barrel.
aug 25, 2025, 5:04 am • 4 0 • view
Oh are they bad people? Is denying the higher nature of reality out of fear, and then forcing that denial on others to try to stop the belief deep down that what they're so afraid of is true even though they can't see how, not inherently immoral and lacking awareness? I mean.................
aug 25, 2025, 12:16 pm • 0 0 • view
I should have thought you'd arrive at the conclusion that atheist influencers are dumb, morally bankrupt people much sooner lol
aug 25, 2025, 12:16 pm • 0 0 • view
"higher nature of reality" How much higher? As measured by Angel hairs?
aug 25, 2025, 1:15 pm • 1 0 • view
Lol as measured by 10 dimensional wave functions we can't write down by virtue of it would break apart reality if it could be written down 😜
aug 25, 2025, 1:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh. Are you joking or admitting how ridiculous you sound? I can't tell.
aug 25, 2025, 1:19 pm • 0 0 • view
Baal Shem Daddy
aug 27, 2025, 7:36 pm • 5 0 • view
I'm glad I came back to check on this thread because otherwise I would have missed this!
aug 28, 2025, 12:05 am • 1 0 • view
Educated people: there are no gods
aug 25, 2025, 9:24 am • 0 0 • view
More educated people: gods are the consciousness of the same universe we inhabit, just a higher form of it that is made of our many bodies the way our bodies are made of many cells.
aug 25, 2025, 12:02 pm • 1 1 • view
...because the religious folks just will NOT leave anyone alone and insist on forcing everyone to live as THEY believe.Most atheists I know don't give a flying fig what you believe until you try to take away other's right to get reproductive care or read a book of their choice or marry who they want
aug 25, 2025, 7:13 am • 2 0 • view
PS This opinion of yours is wrong just like you say in your profile. 👍
aug 25, 2025, 7:14 am • 1 0 • view
Brianna Wu follower.
aug 27, 2025, 10:16 pm • 1 0 • view
PS Like I said, I had to look up who Brianna Wu is and I don't agree with much of what she writes but I will continue to follow her because you anti-Brianna Wu folks are just bullies!
aug 27, 2025, 11:06 pm • 0 0 • view
Trans are less than 1% of the population. You are not going to win your rights by insulting and attacking everyone instead of trying to convince allies.
aug 27, 2025, 11:04 pm • 0 0 • view
I am a natural trans ally. If you are trying to get people to support you, this is not the way! Unless maybe you are really MAGA and are trying to get left-leaning people to hate trans people as much as they do? Why not listen to people and present valid arguments?
aug 27, 2025, 11:02 pm • 0 0 • view
I like how everyone who disagrees with anything I write regarding transgender just points out that I hit the follow button for this trans woman that I literally had no idea who she was until I looked her up like I am her cult follower who sits at her feet listening to everything she says.
aug 27, 2025, 10:59 pm • 0 0 • view
It seems to me that it’s the evangelical nationalist “Christians” forcing their adulterated version of the Bible on us! Atheists aren’t trying to turn the country into a theocratic autocracy!
aug 25, 2025, 1:15 am • 0 0 • view
I have to disagree. It’s the evangelical “Christians” that are forcing their adulterated version of the Bible on us!
aug 25, 2025, 1:11 am • 2 0 • view
Can you be a Christian and an Atheist? I suspect it is a former Christian, as you can be a Jewish atheist, as Jewish is a religion and/or racial identity. Christianity is just a religion, so when you don't believe you're no longer a Christian.
aug 25, 2025, 6:32 am • 0 0 • view
Apathetic Agnostic: don't know, don't care. Surprised anyone does care.
aug 26, 2025, 5:26 am • 1 0 • view
IMO, this is the difference. As a Jewish atheist, I still feel connected to my genealogical roots. I feel connected to the history. I don't feel connected to Judaism as a religion. I do not believe there is a god. Christians typically don't have a unifying genealogical basis for connection.
aug 25, 2025, 12:05 pm • 0 0 • view
????? I'll be there are some Christians today who's ancestors were Christians 2K years ago.
aug 25, 2025, 7:43 pm • 0 0 • view
One quibble: I’d say Atheist Christians, because Christian Atheism is something very different.
aug 28, 2025, 1:31 am • 0 0 • view
I feel like the Christian Atheists have sorta converted some Jewish Atheists, because that insufferability has migrated at least a bit through the internet- however that's also true of non atheist theological ideology in the west, there are a lot of ppl in the minyon who are culturally Christian
aug 25, 2025, 1:07 am • 3 0 • view
As religion fucks more people over we go after the people causing that pain. It is the only right thing to do to religious pieces of shit. You don't like it? Be better.
aug 25, 2025, 6:24 am • 0 0 • view
I feel like this comment needs a mirror 🪞
aug 25, 2025, 12:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Well yeah, it's a good comment.
aug 25, 2025, 12:12 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh, no. That's not the reason at all. Do you usually recommend someone look in a mirror because they look good? Or because they have greens in their teeth?
aug 25, 2025, 12:17 pm • 0 0 • view
I’d love it if we could all just clean up are own backyards before we worry about what everyone else is doing in theirs 😞
aug 25, 2025, 3:33 pm • 1 0 • view
That's why we're talking about atheism. Cleaning up our own backyard.
aug 27, 2025, 7:26 pm • 4 0 • view
Not believing in magic, isn’t anyone’s problem. Believing in magic is the problem.
aug 25, 2025, 10:52 am • 3 0 • view
Unless magic is real and you just don't understand it lol
aug 25, 2025, 11:49 am • 3 0 • view
I understand that it’s not real. That’s what my tarot cards say, anyway….
aug 25, 2025, 12:46 pm • 1 0 • view
Lol you don't use tarot cards and believe magic isn't real
aug 25, 2025, 12:48 pm • 0 0 • view
I grew up as a culturally-Christian atheist. It was only when I learned more about Judaism that I realized how narrow-minded I’d been.
aug 25, 2025, 1:42 pm • 5 0 • view
The number of angry atheists immediately doing exactly what this skeet suggests is just perfect
aug 25, 2025, 12:37 am • 319 6 • view
“Angry atheists”?
aug 25, 2025, 3:44 am • 1 0 • view
Thank you for asking, the answer is someone who can only view religion through a Christian-centric understanding. They’re unable or unwilling to acknowldge that different religions have other ways of engaging with concepts of God, the afterlife, etc. Like this: bsky.app/profile/yogi...
aug 25, 2025, 12:55 am • 234 15 • view
Wow that's so discriminatory!
aug 27, 2025, 10:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Imagine being informed that not everyone believes the same way you do and then concluding they're all heretics. WOOF.
aug 27, 2025, 10:15 pm • 1 0 • view
How can a rabbi be an atheist? It is a spiritual leader/teacher so if he doesnt belive in god than he is just lying opportunist.
aug 25, 2025, 3:32 pm • 3 0 • view
A Rabbi is teaching his student the Talmud, and explains that God created everything in this world to be appreciated, since everything is here to teach us a lesson. The clever student asks "What lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did God create them?"
aug 27, 2025, 8:20 pm • 14 3 • view
The Rabbi responds "God created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all - the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs an act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone who is in need, and cares for the world . . .”
aug 27, 2025, 8:22 pm • 13 0 • view
“he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that God commanded him to perform this act. In fact, he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality & the kindness he can bestow upon others simply because he feels it to be right."
aug 27, 2025, 8:23 pm • 16 0 • view
"This means" the Rabbi continued "that when someone reaches out to you for help, you should never say 'I pray that God will help you.' instead for the moment, you should become an atheist, imagine that there is no God who can help, and say 'I will help you.'"
aug 27, 2025, 8:23 pm • 20 1 • view
god is the emperor with no clothes and now you know…
aug 29, 2025, 4:41 pm • 0 0 • view
It's Judaism calm down things aren't nearly that simple.
aug 26, 2025, 12:19 am • 24 0 • view
did a baby write this
aug 27, 2025, 8:06 pm • 4 0 • view
Because not all religions work like Xtianity. Judaism and many other religions in the world are orthopraxic, which means they center on practice, not belief.
aug 27, 2025, 9:11 pm • 3 0 • view
And that doesnt make sense to me.
aug 27, 2025, 10:33 pm • 0 0 • view
And yet it is a fact that exists.
aug 27, 2025, 10:45 pm • 5 0 • view
Do you really not understand that a religion can focus on doing the right things rather than believing the right things? A religion that concerns itself with doing good deeds rather than inner thoughts? If you can't, it's because you think like a Christian.
aug 27, 2025, 11:24 pm • 3 0 • view
Sure, tell me how I think... Religion can also focus on bad things. It certainly can help some poeple to not do bad things but sadly it is double edged sword.
aug 28, 2025, 12:09 am • 1 0 • view
Yes, we're telling you that you have a definition of religion that is highly influenced by Christianity because that's factually true. You're a fish and we're trying to explain to you that not everything lives in water, and you don't understand what "water" is.
aug 28, 2025, 12:15 am • 3 0 • view
You really don't understand. I give up.
aug 28, 2025, 12:19 am • 0 0 • view
They don't want to.
aug 28, 2025, 12:21 am • 1 0 • view
Just because it doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t mean it isn’t true. You not understanding it is your own issue. When people tell me stuff about physics or imaginary numbers, my inability to understand doesn’t make it “my opinion” it just means I don’t understand and they do.
aug 27, 2025, 10:49 pm • 3 0 • view
It’s time to post the joke again bsky.app/profile/dala...
aug 27, 2025, 7:40 pm • 32 1 • view
Because religion is so much more than a belief.
aug 27, 2025, 11:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Opportunist for what opportunity though? The main benefit of being a rabbi is the work itself, being a spiritual leader and supportive presence in your community. If someone wants that job and is good at it, they should do it.
aug 27, 2025, 8:16 pm • 15 0 • view
And that is called opportunity. You will have some position, your thoughts will have more impact, you will have acces to some things, etc.
aug 27, 2025, 9:04 pm • 1 0 • view
I think you’re far overestimating the amount of power and opulence involved in being a rabbi. It’s not like you get a fancy hat and a scepter. It’s mostly just services, study and community support. There is literally no upside to lying your way in.
aug 27, 2025, 11:59 pm • 1 0 • view
you know I keep reading your responses in this thread and it’s okay to say “wow, I didn’t know that” and just learn something new and realize there are different ways of being religious or spiritual and that your subjective understanding isn’t the only one.
aug 27, 2025, 9:16 pm • 6 0 • view
people can exist differently from you without expecting you to join them. you can just respect that Judaism is different than you thought and live your life.
aug 27, 2025, 9:17 pm • 5 0 • view
Theism is not a synonym for religion, and atheist is not a synonym for areligious. Both Venn diagrams have a lot of overlap, but they aren't circles. Hell, there's an entire movement of Judaism that is *doctrinally* nontheist but embraces Jewish religious traditions as cultural folkways.
aug 27, 2025, 5:33 pm • 98 5 • view
That is not how I understant those words, but if it is like so, than it can make some sense. But doing some traditions doesnt make you part of that religion, because many traditions can be apart from religion even when they were originally religious. Some traditions changed religion e.g. Christmas.
aug 27, 2025, 6:24 pm • 0 0 • view
As a Jew I am always delighted to have my religion explained to me by a gentile.
aug 27, 2025, 9:05 pm • 11 0 • view
Same here. I am also delighted to have my atheism explained to me by strangers.
aug 27, 2025, 10:29 pm • 0 0 • view
YOU started this. Just delete your uninformed post and all of the criticisms will cease.
aug 28, 2025, 3:46 pm • 0 0 • view
Atheism is the lack of belief in any deities. Nothing more, nothing less. No one has been explaining that to you, simply correcting your misconceptions about religions you don't belong to.
aug 27, 2025, 10:39 pm • 2 0 • view
And also a few corrections about history, I guess.
aug 27, 2025, 10:39 pm • 1 0 • view
That’s not what is happening in this thread.
aug 27, 2025, 10:49 pm • 1 0 • view
I don't know who's been doing that, but as an atheist, I'm happy to join in. Look up "Christian Atheism" and how it differs from other atheistic philosophies/traditions. Ex-Christians often reject Christianity and then assume all religions are just funny shaped versions of Christianity.
aug 28, 2025, 1:30 am • 1 0 • view
It's hard to blame them, because most of them grow up in societies where Christian hegemony intentionally tries to flatten and trivialize the differences between Christianity and other religions, *especially* Judaism. But it's still frustrating when they take up all the air in the conversation.
aug 28, 2025, 1:30 am • 1 0 • view
and this chick just can’t stop explaining. she’s like the energizer bunny, except the bunny makes sense.
aug 27, 2025, 9:14 pm • 1 0 • view
On the contrary: in most religions, participating in religious traditions is what defines being religious. Belief in something supernatural is a common component of religion, but it's not universal, nor is it the defining component of most religions. Christianity is an outlier in that way!
aug 27, 2025, 6:54 pm • 81 1 • view
And no, Christmas never "changed religions." The date itself may have been borrowed from Sol Invictus, but the traditions people claim were "stolen" from other faiths didn't become Christmas traditions until centuries after Christianity was the dominant religion in Europe.
aug 27, 2025, 6:54 pm • 44 0 • view
The claims that Christmas and Easter are "actually" not Christian are modern fictions created by ex-Christian people who wanted an excuse to keep celebrating them without feeling hypocritical. They are and always were Christian holidays. Celebrating them is Christian cultural practice.
aug 27, 2025, 6:54 pm • 52 0 • view
Many Jews are simultaneously atheist and religious, and they would describe themselves that way. There is no contradiction there. Religion is a far more expansive, nebulous concept than just "systems that function like Christianity"--just look at Confucianism, "civic religion," or Shinto.
aug 27, 2025, 6:54 pm • 48 3 • view
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aug 27, 2025, 8:18 pm • 0 0 • view
No, its not some modern fictions. Its history. Date from Sol Invictus is one example. Now look up what was Saturnalia. Religion was and always will be just politics in shiny dress with a bit of philosophy.
aug 27, 2025, 7:22 pm • 4 0 • view
In Britain the idea of Christmas/Easter being not "actually" Christian is nothing to do with ex-Christians feeling guilty because Christmas is fun. It's about honoring the pre-Christian history and traditions of European ancestors, including those later adopted into Christianity.
aug 27, 2025, 8:56 pm • 2 0 • view
Most Brits celebrate Christmas and Easter at least a bit because we like presents, turkey, and chocolate; the lights and churches are so pretty and the carols slap; and everything's closed so we might as well.
aug 27, 2025, 8:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Modern? Didn't the Puritans ban Christmas in England in the 1640s because they didn't consider it Christian? The celebration of Christmas in a religious context is totally unlike secular Christmas.* Liturgical Christmas only starts when secular Christmas ends - the only overlap is Dec 25.
aug 28, 2025, 5:14 am • 1 0 • view
The Puritans had two complaints about Christmas: the fact the Bible didn't give a date for Jesus's birth, so date was chosen based on the Roman festival season (undisputed), and the fact people celebrated it by getting loudly drunk in public, which Puritanism considered a grave sin.
aug 28, 2025, 1:26 pm • 0 0 • view
*I'm talking about the "familiar" celebrations of northern Europe and North America. Christmas celebrations with their roots in southern Europe and the Middle East were different, although British and then American cultural hegemony has had its impact.
aug 28, 2025, 5:14 am • 1 0 • view
"doing some traditions" is *incredibly* vague. But there are particular and specific rituals that define membership for many religions, and it's often "if you *do* XYZ, you're one of us," not "if you *believe* ABC."
aug 27, 2025, 8:38 pm • 2 0 • view
Christianity is not unique in making belief in a dogma a central requirement for membership, but that is a less common paradigm (by number of religions, not necessarily by number of *members*).
aug 27, 2025, 8:38 pm • 3 0 • view
You gonna shit when you find out about Anglicans.
aug 27, 2025, 8:17 pm • 5 0 • view
Yes, in cultures dominated by Christianity, the definition of "religion" tends to describe Christianity and other religions are often very badly understood. Like it or not, there are aspects of Christianity that are embedded into our culture that atheists (including me) have to actively challenge
aug 28, 2025, 12:07 pm • 1 0 • view
what about an atheist makes them unable to provide guidance to Jewish people for morality and tradition?
aug 27, 2025, 8:13 pm • 1 0 • view
Easy. A rabbi is not a pastor. A rabbi is part of a different religion. Just because Christianity decided their demigod was going to be a Jew doesn't mean it has anything in common with the actual religion of the Jews.
aug 27, 2025, 9:01 pm • 10 0 • view
What does God have to do with spiritual leading/teaching?
aug 27, 2025, 8:04 pm • 17 0 • view
I dont know. Ask him?
aug 27, 2025, 8:42 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm busy waiting to find out what he needs with a starship.
aug 27, 2025, 8:43 pm • 14 0 • view
And that got you a follow...
aug 27, 2025, 11:21 pm • 1 0 • view
The answer to your question is literally there in the screenshot. Heck, it is even there in the Alt-Text if you needed something more accessible than an image. "A belief in the existence or presence of God is not a requirement to be a practicing, religious Jew."
aug 27, 2025, 8:03 pm • 68 0 • view
A that doesnt not make any sense to me. In my view of religion this is a contradiction. And because it is not a fact based topic we can just discuss that.
aug 27, 2025, 8:40 pm • 1 0 • view
you're allowed to define religion however you want, and we're allowed to disregard your idiosyncratic and unhelpful definition
aug 27, 2025, 8:46 pm • 13 0 • view
Agreed.
aug 27, 2025, 9:59 pm • 0 0 • view
well jews don’t share your view of religion! hope this helps!
aug 27, 2025, 9:09 pm • 11 0 • view
Yes, today I learned a lot about how religious people view world.
aug 27, 2025, 10:31 pm • 0 0 • view
many (most?) Jews reject the (predominantly xtian) idea of "God" as a bearded dude in the clouds. but all Jews innately understand/believe in a sort of interconnectedness (often attributed to or identified with "God") and many practice certain traditions/rituals to unpack and celebrate that.
aug 27, 2025, 9:39 pm • 0 0 • view
You don't actually get to set the rules for Judaism. Your view of religion isn't really relevant in Jewish communal questions and what makes somebody a Jew (or a Rabbi).
aug 27, 2025, 8:44 pm • 43 0 • view
Where I said that I set the rules for that? I just shared my view on that because in my view of world it doesnt make sense. Thats all. Its totally fine if you disagree.
aug 27, 2025, 9:53 pm • 0 0 • view
You literally said that any rabbi who is an atheist is a "lying opportunist"
aug 27, 2025, 10:08 pm • 3 0 • view
It blows my mind because there are deist and atheist Jews that are like really fucking famous. I could list just stand up comedians that fit this bill for probably a full minute
aug 27, 2025, 10:54 pm • 4 0 • view
Your definition of religion is limited. Perhaps it would help to say “faith?” That you inherently tie a connection to the divine to “religion” is part it. Christianity’s definition of “religion” is different from the ancient Roman understanding of the word. forward.com/news/10776/r...
aug 27, 2025, 9:30 pm • 4 0 • view
Who cares about your view, or what you think?
aug 27, 2025, 9:19 pm • 0 0 • view
heaven forbid any religion allow for contradictions in its text or practice
aug 27, 2025, 9:16 pm • 1 0 • view
You're saying both, "I can to have any opinion I want," and "other people having different understanding is confusing to me". It's very simple: they do not share your belief in what religion, spirituality, and tradition mean. There's nothing dishonest about that.
aug 27, 2025, 8:50 pm • 16 0 • view
Yes, that is why I do not change my opinion on that because it doesnt make sense to me.
aug 27, 2025, 10:10 pm • 0 0 • view
Lots of folks have made good-faith attempts to explain what you say you don't understand, and it seems like you're not actually interested in understanding how and where your understandings/opinions fall short of the reality outside your experience.
aug 28, 2025, 1:14 am • 2 0 • view
I just ask that you try to consider the possibility that in this case, your failure to understand is because you have more to learn about other cultures, and not because millions of adherents of different religions are wrong about their own cultures.
aug 28, 2025, 1:14 am • 2 0 • view
My failurie to understand that is because I am not religious. I am not practising or observing any religion. So I am not capable of imagining that reality. Now I know that there are some people who describes themselfs with for me contradicting statement of religious atheist.
aug 28, 2025, 9:20 am • 0 0 • view
The problem isn't that it doesn't make sense to you. Folks could spend years trying to educate you on the sociology and theology ins and outs of religions and ethnoreligions. The problem is that, faced with something you didn't understand, you jumped to assuming there was something mendacious.
aug 28, 2025, 1:06 am • 2 0 • view
Because you’re ignorant, not terribly bright, and — exactly as the op describes — only able to conceive religion through a Christian lens. You think you’re rejecting all religions, while accepting a 100% Christian” understanding of religion. And you’re rejecting evidence like a pious evangelical.
aug 27, 2025, 11:03 pm • 3 0 • view
Huh! TIL, as they say! Everyday is a school day, thanks for the new bit of knowledge! :)
aug 27, 2025, 9:14 pm • 0 0 • view
It depends, of course, on what that leader says and does. But while Judaism *arguably* does command belief in God, belief in God is not a requirement to be a Jew. At worst, atheism is a sin "between the person and God" - but we don't expect people to never ever sin.
aug 27, 2025, 9:18 pm • 2 0 • view
Citation needed?
aug 27, 2025, 11:24 pm • 0 0 • view
On which item?
aug 27, 2025, 11:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Judaism commanding a belief in G*d! ❤️
aug 27, 2025, 11:39 pm • 1 0 • view
N.B. I said *arguably* - not everybody agrees, but Rambam/Moses Maimonides is one of the major rabbis who has held that it is a mitzvah to believe in Hashem. See: www.sefaria.org/Sefer_HaMitz...
aug 27, 2025, 11:46 pm • 0 0 • view
Further, if it is a sin, it is of the generally lesser category of failure to perform a positive commandment, rather than transgression of a negative commandment/prohibition.
aug 27, 2025, 9:27 pm • 1 0 • view
Judaism doesn't work like Christianity.
aug 27, 2025, 8:34 pm • 12 1 • view
And? I am not saying that.
aug 27, 2025, 9:36 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes you are, you just don't realize it because you're so influenced by Xtian hegemony you don't understand that there are other religions that center practice over faith, among other things. You're the fish in the joke asking "What the fuck is 'water'?"
aug 27, 2025, 9:50 pm • 5 0 • view
You keep acting like your definition of 'religion' is the only one that matters, and that's not accurate.
aug 27, 2025, 9:53 pm • 2 0 • view
You are, even if you don't realize it. Judaism is much more practice based rather than faith based and the minute you reduce it to belief in God you're being influenced by Christian definitions of religion.
aug 27, 2025, 11:05 pm • 1 0 • view
You absolutely are. Your imagination is limited by Christianity’s understanding of religion. And you refuse to listen and learn. Applying your Christian worldview to Judaism is fundamentally antisemitic.
aug 28, 2025, 12:20 am • 1 0 • view
What? So you know better than me how I view the world? Interesting.
aug 28, 2025, 8:32 am • 0 0 • view
No, but I think Jews know better than you about Judaism.
aug 28, 2025, 1:33 pm • 2 0 • view
I know that you’re a fish who doesn’t know what water is. That’s visible from outside the fishbowl. You seem entirely incapable of self-awareness.
aug 28, 2025, 2:26 pm • 0 0 • view
"Judaism" works quite similarly to Christianity. Jewish existence does not. It's far easier to understand when we relabel "Judaism" as "the religion of the Covenant" or "Covenantism." The religion is very important to our history. It helped hold us together in diaspora.
aug 28, 2025, 1:42 pm • 1 0 • view
It is still not "us." It is not what makes Jews who we are. We are the people born of Judea. Covenantism is one facet of our existence, and it is not even close to one that we all express.
aug 28, 2025, 1:42 pm • 0 0 • view
The "atheist Rabbi" issue is a bit more complex. Rabbis are not "the priestly class." Jews rejected the priestly class when they became corrupt and Judea fell to Rome.
aug 28, 2025, 1:42 pm • 0 0 • view
What are you on about? Kohanim still play a role as kohanim. There's a huge body of halacha about them. They have much less of a day to day role with no Beit ha'Mikdash though
aug 28, 2025, 1:58 pm • 2 0 • view
Fair distinction. They have no institutional authority.
aug 28, 2025, 2:08 pm • 0 0 • view
Pretty much nobody has institutional authority outside their own community.
aug 28, 2025, 3:06 pm • 0 0 • view
Rabbis are "teachers" and and "community leaders" of the Jewish people. As the Jewish people become more secular, that role has less and less to do with Covenantism.
aug 28, 2025, 1:42 pm • 0 0 • view
oh you naïve fool
aug 27, 2025, 11:23 pm • 2 0 • view
My mother's rabbi (when she was a kid in Detroit) was atheist.
aug 27, 2025, 9:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Look, I used to be in the “I hate all religion it’s all evil bullshit” state of ex-Christian atheism too, but then I lived in Japan for a year and took a religious studies class. There is hope for you but you stepped in it with this line of argument. You need to branch out, learn some things.
aug 27, 2025, 8:22 pm • 15 0 • view
Where you get the feeling I hate religion? I just dont care what people belives in.
aug 27, 2025, 9:16 pm • 0 0 • view
You are correct, I should have been more careful in my characterization. However, your questions and comments closely imitate a brand of disaffected former-Christian atheist rhetoric. People have already discoursed this into the ground with you, but this was what I was thinking of.
aug 27, 2025, 9:22 pm • 5 0 • view
Even within Christian groups, sociologists might differentiate extrinsic believers, who are more concerned with social cohesion, from intrinsic believers, who are more preoccupied with doctrine. As it happens, Christian membership is granted with a confession of belief, unlike other religions.
aug 27, 2025, 9:37 pm • 1 0 • view
It all depends on what aspect of religion is more meaningful to an individual. It's definitely more difficult for an intrinsic believer such as what you would be to accept the legitimacy of extrinsically oriented individuals.
aug 27, 2025, 9:41 pm • 0 0 • view
Does being "spiritual" require the concept of a god?
aug 27, 2025, 7:46 pm • 5 0 • view
I think you’re asking the wrong question. Is it ethical for one person to dictate the answer to this question to others? My answer would be no, the answer is deeply personal.
aug 27, 2025, 8:12 pm • 2 0 • view
In my view of religion it does. But it doesnt have to be an enthity.
aug 27, 2025, 7:54 pm • 0 0 • view
That’s a very specific - dare I say Christian - view of religion
aug 27, 2025, 8:10 pm • 8 0 • view
I said that god doesnt have to be entity. It can be anything or nothing. I do not see how that is a Christian view. Btw I am not Christian.
aug 27, 2025, 8:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes, I know you aren't a Christian. You've made that clear. You view of "God" is not what makes is a Christian view. Your implied definition of "Religion" - which to you, requires a belief in God - is.
aug 27, 2025, 8:55 pm • 3 0 • view
It doesnt have to be god. It can be anything. A thought. Whatever. You are implying that you know better tham me what I mean and what made me to think like this...
aug 27, 2025, 10:15 pm • 0 0 • view
You SAID - didn't imply, SAID - that a rabbi who said he/she was an athiest was lying. And Jews told you that wasn't true. And you didn't accept that as an answer.
aug 27, 2025, 10:18 pm • 2 0 • view
but you are a doofus! btw, tell me more about those “opportunistic” rabbis, PLEASE. WHAT opportunities?
aug 27, 2025, 9:04 pm • 0 0 • view
And that is called opportunity. You will have some position, your thoughts will have more impact, you will have access to some things, etc.
aug 27, 2025, 10:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Your view of religion is narrow and you have dozens of experienced people explaining why in great detail. You need to stop digging this hole.
aug 27, 2025, 9:18 pm • 0 0 • view
But that just means you need to do a wide survey of religion. That would be good for your understanding of the world as a whole, much needed in these tribally minded times.
aug 27, 2025, 8:15 pm • 8 0 • view
Well, maybe it will be better not to try hard to persuade people into your view of world. And cooperate because we will need it.
aug 27, 2025, 8:56 pm • 0 0 • view
What? Did you even read what I wrote? Nowhere did I try to persuade you of anything beyond trying to understand that your particular experience is not that of the rest of the world. If you don't want to do that, then that's your choice.
aug 27, 2025, 8:57 pm • 4 0 • view
Muting this now, because you're clearly not here to learn, just to argue.
aug 27, 2025, 8:58 pm • 2 0 • view
I am learning a lot now actually. Learnig doesnt include agreement.
aug 27, 2025, 10:19 pm • 0 0 • view
So, if in Buddhism or Jainism, for instance, 'gods' are actually limited and finite entities, does that render them not religions?
aug 27, 2025, 7:59 pm • 4 0 • view
No, why a god should be sometnig ethernal? It can be anything, multiple thing, nothing. Whatever what you believe.
aug 27, 2025, 8:32 pm • 0 0 • view
So then an "atheist" could posit, say, "love" as their god?
aug 27, 2025, 8:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Believe that someone likes you is not religion in my opinion.
aug 27, 2025, 9:36 pm • 0 0 • view
Even in Hindu dharma, there's a school of atheism. I really wish people would stop equating religion with Christianity. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charvaka
aug 27, 2025, 8:07 pm • 8 0 • view
I was going to include Charvaka, but it feels like a bit of a deeper dive. :)
aug 27, 2025, 8:08 pm • 2 0 • view
Appreciate you! :)
aug 27, 2025, 8:13 pm • 2 0 • view
I once took a Marxist History of the Middle East at the Time of Christ class, taught by a Jesuit priest. He openly questioned the divinity of Christ. It was a Catholic, Jesuit University.
aug 27, 2025, 8:30 pm • 6 0 • view
That sounds AMAZING
aug 27, 2025, 9:21 pm • 2 0 • view
It was. It was an Honors Seminar class. You had to have a high GPA to enroll.
aug 27, 2025, 9:22 pm • 1 0 • view
What you know of Judaism subtracts from the whole of human knowledge.
aug 27, 2025, 8:00 pm • 18 2 • view
Atheist spiritual leader here! Ordained by a congregation that knows full well that I don’t believe in anything I would call God. So certainly not lying. And if this is opportunism, there’s a lot less money involved than one might expect.
aug 27, 2025, 9:03 pm • 13 0 • view
I may struggle to understand how you could be a Unitarian minister and not believe it God, but the key part is, it’s entirely reasonable and normal in your tradition and is understood by your congregation. My understanding does not change those facts. I do not come in to it.
aug 27, 2025, 9:34 pm • 3 0 • view
My level of understanding doesn’t prevent 1) your role existing 2) your perspective being normal and acceptable within it 3) you being good at what you do and being able to meet your communities needs.
aug 27, 2025, 9:35 pm • 2 0 • view
Oh. Oh, gosh. You know, you can delete this. No one would blame you.
aug 27, 2025, 8:15 pm • 6 0 • view
Why? Discusions are necessary. Without them there would be much more chaos than it is now. We do not have to agree on everything to be able to live together and cooperate.
aug 27, 2025, 9:00 pm • 1 0 • view
OK, first of all, we have to agree on facts, and the facts are that Judaism doesn't have the same relationship to faith that Xtianity does. We're supposed to tolerate ignorance to a point, but here your ignorance also came with a heaping side of unwarranted insults. So yeah, you should delete that.
aug 27, 2025, 9:46 pm • 1 0 • view
i dunno maybe because it reads as ignorant and borderline antisemitic, but that's just me, you do you, i guess
aug 27, 2025, 9:14 pm • 4 0 • view
A Rabbi can be an atheist because Judaism does not require o n e child any particular belief. Judaism is far more concerned with what one does.
aug 27, 2025, 9:30 pm • 1 0 • view
Buddy I'm as goy as it gets and even -I- know better'n to ask a question like that.
aug 27, 2025, 9:15 pm • 2 0 • view
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aug 27, 2025, 9:09 pm • 1 0 • view
My cousin was a rabbi, and I remember during some existential crisis of other, he said I'd make a good rabbi. Me: But I don't believe in god! Him: I don't think that's a problem…
aug 27, 2025, 8:07 pm • 6 0 • view
(I was horrified.)
aug 27, 2025, 8:31 pm • 0 0 • view
Interesting, is this an established term? I've used the term "christian atheist" with a different definition to describe myself, but then I made up that definition because I thought I was making up the term.
aug 27, 2025, 8:48 pm • 0 0 • view
aaand I just decided to google it to find the term has a wikipedia page. only hm that definition is not how you are using the term en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christi...
aug 27, 2025, 8:56 pm • 1 0 • view
Yeah I didn’t suggest it was some clinical term? This is bluesky.
aug 27, 2025, 9:03 pm • 2 0 • view
It’s not. I’ve seen “culturally Christian atheist” used to describe the same concept elsewhere. I’m not sure I love “Christian Atheist” as it is used in this thread but I am willing to for participation’s sake
aug 27, 2025, 9:14 pm • 1 0 • view
It's a fairly common colloquial (online at least) term for describing, as you noted, atheists who arrived at atheism from christianity. ... specifically because their/our approach to faith, belief, and the interpretations of belief etc are rooted in christian philosophy...
aug 27, 2025, 10:30 pm • 4 0 • view
(not that everyone is aware of this of course, but we all still carry the imprints of sunday schools gone by) And I think it's important to understand that this is something non-christians (not non-practicing or former) will always see in us. Because our concepts are rooted in xtian foundations.
aug 27, 2025, 10:30 pm • 4 0 • view
Ironic that many of these people - myself included - so desperately seek to shed the yoke of Christian doctrine yet in doing so often reveal the metaphorical scars of its presence in their lives
aug 27, 2025, 11:00 pm • 1 0 • view
that said I have never before this heard the term "Christian Atheists" used in the manner of the OP
aug 27, 2025, 11:01 pm • 0 0 • view
I think the more you engage with people who don't share the same worldview and background as you, the more you will see it. I've been coming across it in online spaces for over a decade now. Particularly in discussions about faith and belief.
aug 27, 2025, 11:17 pm • 2 0 • view
It did not arrive at the same time as all the atheists lamenting the loss of church community in the mid 00s and early 10s, but it followed fairly soon after, because it's highly reflective of that same group. I think it's a useful term for non-christians to understand people's terms of reference.
aug 27, 2025, 11:17 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm more than little engaged with people outside of my worldview and background and I haven't encountered it, only the other definition of the term. I don't think it was your intent but that did come across as a bit presumptuous
aug 27, 2025, 11:42 pm • 0 0 • view
As an atheist Jew who freely admits profound ignorance of religious Judaism, I am intrigued. How can a rabbi be an atheist? I didn’t think you could practice a monotheistic religion without a belief in God.
aug 27, 2025, 8:19 pm • 3 0 • view
what about a rabbi's job requires them to have any stance on God other than a personal one?
aug 27, 2025, 8:23 pm • 0 0 • view
This is an interesting reply because it underscores just how not-a-monolith Judaism is. I hope the replies helped you find your answer.
aug 27, 2025, 9:16 pm • 0 0 • view
these convos are so exhausting.
aug 27, 2025, 7:58 pm • 12 0 • view
I muted it by accident a few days ago and came back to find the replies were just more examples that proved the original point
aug 27, 2025, 8:11 pm • 11 0 • view
read another book
aug 28, 2025, 12:01 pm • 0 0 • view
The lightbulb went on for me when I was asking a Jewish friend about the mythology around Lilith and he explained that none of the Torah is literal and it's all meant to be questioned to figure out what you believe. And I realized that's what Jesus did. And that Christians got it very wrong.
aug 25, 2025, 3:14 am • 42 1 • view
I love it when they prove your point and you barely even have to do anything 😮💨
aug 25, 2025, 1:15 am • 48 0 • view
I’m fascinated by the idea of an atheist rabbi. If I promise to try to avoid your negative descriptions of Xtian atheists, would you mind if I ask a few questions about how this works please?
aug 27, 2025, 8:15 pm • 0 0 • view
I would recommend you do some google searches to actually learn about the religious practices of others instead of making me your source of anecdotal data. There’s extensive writing about how Judaism engages with the concepts of God and biblical literalism.
aug 27, 2025, 8:16 pm • 5 0 • view
Thank you for the reply. I think you have misread my intentions but I will bother you no further.
aug 28, 2025, 4:54 am • 0 0 • view
The stupid left has really taken to loud antisemitism.
aug 27, 2025, 8:16 pm • 3 0 • view
Not yelling. You can't be both. It's pretty much an either or. Also you are poking the bear, isn't getting a reaction the point of what you're doing?
aug 25, 2025, 4:07 am • 2 0 • view
Atheists means not believing in God Being Jewish means being born Jewish or converted to Judaism To practice Judaism means one follows the religion Faith is not required
aug 25, 2025, 8:00 pm • 8 0 • view
I was referring to Christians. I wouldn't comment on Judaism. I don't have enough knowledge. Thought I'd done a better job. Ah evil word count, and short attention span
aug 26, 2025, 1:01 am • 1 0 • view
Okay
aug 26, 2025, 1:57 am • 0 0 • view
At least helps out in knowing who to block. Insane how much people will not even attempt to understand what your point is and just assume its about them specifically.
aug 25, 2025, 1:15 am • 5 0 • view
Sure, we don’t care.
aug 25, 2025, 1:47 am • 0 0 • view
'Jewish' atheists and 'Christian' atheist = oxymoron.... not sure if that was intended?
aug 25, 2025, 12:03 pm • 1 0 • view
Hitchens isn’t even here to defend himself!
aug 25, 2025, 12:34 am • 3 0 • view
That is his finest quality.
aug 25, 2025, 10:01 pm • 13 0 • view
He got it right, in the end.
aug 27, 2025, 8:09 pm • 3 0 • view
📌
aug 27, 2025, 8:10 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s the white Christian fascists that are causing problems for every American
aug 25, 2025, 3:03 pm • 2 0 • view
Science-pagan atheists: Too busy looking at how cool nature is on its own.
aug 25, 2025, 3:40 pm • 1 0 • view
Huh? I'm am Atheist atheist, meaning I never self identified as Christian or anything else. Roughly 98.9% of atheists are pretty quiet about it and let y'all get on with your religious silly shit in peace, well, from us at least. Gee, thanks for weekends btw.
aug 25, 2025, 12:55 am • 5 0 • view
You're not being quiet about it.
aug 25, 2025, 1:00 am • 6 0 • view
No, right now I am not. I have a right to free speech, it's the First Amendment, the same one that grants freedom of religion.
aug 25, 2025, 3:22 am • 0 0 • view
So here’s the thing, you were perfectly capable of scrolling past this, and not assuming it was about you And yet. Here you are, with a predictably snide comment painting religion with a single brush. Doing the exact thing I was joking about in the first skeet. Oh well. You’ll get them next time.
aug 25, 2025, 1:04 am • 47 0 • view
Show me on the doll where atheists ever hurt you.
aug 25, 2025, 1:23 am • 5 0 • view
Mate, this dice has many sides, this is just the same stuff as Youtube atheists. Insufferable people calling out other insufferable people for attention in open public spaces, and that you automatically lose by disagreeing because you didn't ignore them shouting for attention in open public spaces.
aug 25, 2025, 1:47 am • 2 0 • view
Atheists made me doubt my understanding of reality so profoundly it caused psychosis on multiple occasions. They are just as if not more delusional about denying psychic awareness as the other side is about believing G-d cares what holes you use for sex. Js
aug 25, 2025, 12:05 pm • 3 0 • view
I really don't know or care about which "YouTube Atheists" you're kvetching about but if they are abusing their First Amendment rights then YouTube should take them down, otherwise they are using their rights, the same amendments that protects religious freedom. Honestly try coexisting.
aug 25, 2025, 3:32 am • 2 0 • view
You're thinking about priests, pastors, and youth group leaders
aug 25, 2025, 4:48 am • 2 0 • view
I was responding to how you made pressumptive comments about atheists as if you know all about them and could fit them nicely into two categories. It's a reflex, as a Lesbian I've heard people say ignorant inaccurate hateful things about people like me all my life. I speak up when that happens.
aug 25, 2025, 1:23 am • 3 0 • view
I think this is more one of those "It's a general statement, it's not intended to be true of any given individual specifically" things, like when we say "Men are too comfortable with abusers in their midst". ...and then we laugh at any man who springs forward to tell us "Not all men!"
aug 25, 2025, 1:43 am • 4 0 • view
The difference is that men are not an invisible underprivileged minority. Baiting atheists by saying dumb generalizations about them and beating up on them is sport for some people. Atheists are only people who don't endorse religion and if you have problem them it says more about you than them.
aug 25, 2025, 1:56 am • 0 0 • view
She never generalized all atheists, and it isn’t persecution to point out that atheists whose only understanding of religion is entirely based on Christianity and Christianity alone tend to completely ignore the cultural nuance that makes it possible for someone to be both Jewish and an Atheist.
aug 25, 2025, 4:13 am • 8 0 • view
The repulsive part was implying that being vocal as an atheist was a bad thing. And, the answer to that one is obvious, antisemitism makes Jews less dominant, anyone raised in a Jewish household would learn that.
aug 25, 2025, 5:08 am • 0 0 • view
This is where I think you’ve missed the entire point of what she’s saying, and have only further proved her point. Certain worldviews tend to stick, regardless of why you adhere to them. So a person who was raised to believe that they have the ultimate truth, and that anyone who doesn’t share-
aug 25, 2025, 6:33 am • 2 0 • view
- that truth is either evil or a moron, but specifically because they believe in Jesus Christ, almost always continues to behave this way once they become an atheist. Her point is that how someone responds to atheism is cultural. And you have exemplified her point completely unironically.
aug 25, 2025, 6:33 am • 1 0 • view
I am an atheist who was raised Christian in a small town in a red state, but spent much time trying to understand religion. And truly no one evangelizes more than atheists who were formally Christian. The level of vitriol and lack of curiosity and nuance is literally the same for both groups.
aug 25, 2025, 6:36 am • 3 1 • view
Anyway if your only understanding of religion is Christianity, and you are fine with ignorance and completely lack any curiosity about how other faiths actually work culturally, it becomes obvious why Christian atheists refuse to believe someone can be atheist and also Jewish or Buddhist etc.
aug 25, 2025, 6:42 am • 3 1 • view
Part of the Christian right takes pleasure in fantasizing about being persecuted by atheists and trans people. This then becomes their justification for going after atheists and trans people. With violence if necessary. It's a totally made up world.
aug 25, 2025, 1:01 am • 4 0 • view
Some Theists: God is real & justifies genocide so make it everyone's problem by promoting....you guessed it, genocide. Your Jewish atheist: no problem, not my business. Are you serious?
aug 25, 2025, 2:26 am • 2 0 • view
What is a Christian atheist?
aug 25, 2025, 12:48 am • 12 0 • view
I think the best summing-up of it I can remember is "Christian atheists don't believe in g-d, and the g-d they don't believe in is Jesus"
aug 28, 2025, 3:03 am • 2 0 • view
I really like that description. Makes sense that atheists might reflect some of the intensity of a particular religion, esp if they were raised in that religion and then became atheist, and esp esp if that religion has a significant faction that seeks dominance in that person's country.
aug 28, 2025, 8:06 am • 1 0 • view
An Anglican.
aug 27, 2025, 8:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Def not what this person was talking about, but there was a small movement in the 19th/20th century of Christian philosophers who argued that Jesus' crucifixion and sacrifice wasn't "a man dying who rose again," but "God actually dying." "The Gospel of Christian Atheism" is one book about it.
aug 27, 2025, 10:18 pm • 0 0 • view
An atheist whose family or upbringing is/was Christian.
aug 25, 2025, 1:03 am • 19 0 • view
Or their understanding of religion has never extended past Christianity. It’s just the assumption that all religions must operate with the same rules and underlying beliefs of Christianity - like that to practice a religion, you have to believe in God.
aug 25, 2025, 1:08 am • 46 0 • view
Frequently not even "Christianity", which whatever you think of it as a belief system is a vast, diverse, unbelievably complex historical entity. Frequently they've been exposed to Evangelical Christianity, a couple more Protestant denominations, and a few Catholics.
aug 27, 2025, 11:14 pm • 0 0 • view
They also tend to behave as vehemently evangelical as some christians do
aug 26, 2025, 8:19 pm • 5 0 • view
They never get that Judaism isn’t based on belief! It’s just not a thing!
aug 25, 2025, 1:59 am • 8 0 • view
Maybe this will work as an analogy: Say you have someone brought up to pray for healing rather than seek medical treatment. There's at least one, probably many such groups. They leave their church and embrace normal medical treatment, but then see everything in terms of that dichotomy: 1/8
aug 25, 2025, 2:11 am • 4 0 • view
… is this a procedure administered by a trained professional? Am I being told to consume specific chemicals in measured quantities? Can the effects be quantified in a double-blind study? Those are all good questions — but they don't encompass the entire universe of healthcare. 2/8
aug 25, 2025, 2:11 am • 3 0 • view
For instance, healthy eating isn't about measured quantities of specific chemicals: it's about understanding nutrition within a practical and social context. Exercise is largely self-directed; and you can't assess its effects with double-blind studies. 3/8
aug 25, 2025, 2:11 am • 2 0 • view
There genuinely can be a lot of woo in nutrition or exercise advice, but our hypothetical medical realist can't accept that people still get genuine benefits from it — it turns out that thoughtful eating habits are still good for you, even when the underlying theory is silly. 4/8
aug 25, 2025, 2:11 am • 4 0 • view
Similarly, Christian Atheists have a fixed belief that everything called "religious" is essentially the same as it would be Christianity. But this isn't the case. The things we classify as "religious" are often just deeply rooted cultural elements. 5/8
aug 25, 2025, 2:11 am • 3 0 • view
For instance, does a Christian Atheist abstain from roasted dog for religious reasons? What's the difference between that, and (some) secular Jews not eating pork? I knew a vegetarian who was *very upset* to discover that McDonalds had been using beef tallow — was that religious? 6/8
aug 25, 2025, 2:11 am • 3 0 • view
Jews regularly experience Christian Atheists jumping into conversations with a whole lot of assumptions that just aren't true, or aren't true in the same way, and we don't necessarily want to stop and explain quite fundamental things to them. Which offends the CA so you get the "Sky Daddy" crap. 7/
aug 25, 2025, 2:11 am • 5 0 • view
You might (often do) get a Jewish atheist being offensive about Judaism — but it would be something that's coherent from a Jewish perspective, not like the hypothetical Medical Realist mocking the idea that it's good advice to go for a walk (unsupervised! unquantified!) every day. 8/fin
aug 25, 2025, 2:11 am • 4 0 • view
Someone who was Christian until they abandoned theistic belief but none of Christianity's other precepts.
aug 25, 2025, 9:57 pm • 7 0 • view
Christian Atheists? Doesn’t exist in this world mate! Christians believe in the existence of God and Jesus Christ, who is considered the Son of God, while atheists do not believe in the existence of any god or supreme being - so a Christian Atheist cannot exist.
aug 25, 2025, 3:24 am • 3 0 • view
A Christian atheist is someone who was raised in a primarily Christian community, whose only understanding of religion is entirely based on Christianity, and who rejects religion as a whole based on Christianity alone.
aug 25, 2025, 4:17 am • 17 1 • view
It can also be characterized by endlessly evangelizing about how atheism makes them smarter than all religious people, despite having absolutely no understanding of any faith structure other than one specific brand of one specific religion, and a complete refusal to think complexly about it.
aug 25, 2025, 4:18 am • 17 1 • view
Christian atheists, once a fundamentalist always one.
aug 25, 2025, 2:03 am • 9 0 • view
When was Dawkins a fundamentalist?
aug 25, 2025, 4:51 am • 1 0 • view
Nonpracticing Catholics like me: We don't care what you think of God. We know he's an asshole and there is nothing you can do about it, so have some wine and a slice of bread and shut up.
aug 25, 2025, 2:59 am • 2 0 • view
I've read through some replies and I'm a bit confused. I'm genuinely curious to learn, so my question is about these non-god believing Jewish religions... How do they work? I assumed all religious Jews were God believers. No worries if you don't want to answer.
aug 25, 2025, 1:06 am • 1 0 • view
You’re welcome to Google, as there are plenty of resources. I love @theradr.bsky.social’s newsletter and am sure she’s written about Jewish atheism. If you’re genuinely curious to learn about these things, do the research instead of asking for anecdotes.
aug 25, 2025, 1:09 am • 9 0 • view
It’s simple: Judaism isn’t based on belief. In anything.
aug 25, 2025, 2:01 am • 1 0 • view
Rabbi Danya sounds like an awesome person to be around. I signed up for the basic newsletter. And it does seem to be what I was thinking it was. I think my confusion was unwarranted. I'll want to read some more from her of course. Thanks for the response and further guidance!
aug 25, 2025, 1:32 am • 5 0 • view
Well. I asked because this is the first I've ever heard of Jewish Atheists being described as a religion. I'm 44 and have been atheist for over 15 years. You would think I've heard it all by now. Guess not. 😁 That's all. Yes, I am curious, I'll check out that newsletter. Thanks for responding.
aug 25, 2025, 1:16 am • 2 0 • view
Jewish atheists are not a religion, just a very normal kind of Jew. Some go to shul, some don't; as Amanda notes it's entirely their business.
aug 25, 2025, 1:33 am • 6 0 • view
That's what my initial thoughts were too. Which is why I was confused that it was being described as a "religion". It's certainly not a religion in any traditional sense of the word, but in a broader looser sense of the word, I get it. I'm fine with it, carry on! Initial confusion over. 😁
aug 25, 2025, 1:38 am • 2 0 • view
Look up "orthopraxis." Judaism values what one does above what one believes.
aug 27, 2025, 5:10 am • 0 0 • view
It's not that Jewish Atheism is a religion, but that Jewish religion does not forbid atheism. A Jew who is atheist is entirely capable of practicing Judaism. This is because Judaism centers practice, not belief.
aug 25, 2025, 10:05 pm • 3 0 • view
Judaism predates the idea of religion, which wasn’t formed until the 16th century, mostly by Christians. So there’s a reason it doesn’t fit neatly into that bucket.
aug 28, 2025, 1:26 pm • 2 0 • view
Being a Jewish person is an identity Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people Faith is considered very important in Judaism but it’s not a requirement. If you follow the religion that’s the most important thing, not belief
aug 25, 2025, 8:38 pm • 1 0 • view
Yep, i think that was the gist of it from the other responses and Danya's newsletter. It's still a little odd to me that one would still follow the traditions of the faith without believing in the top figure, but I'm a little less confused than I was initially at least.
aug 25, 2025, 8:54 pm • 1 0 • view
Try this idea There are over a billion Christians over a Billion Muslims in this world Closer to two billion Christians There are 20 million or so Jewish people in this world. Two orders of magnitude less Can you imagine an aboriginal religion with maybe a couple of thousand followers
aug 25, 2025, 9:00 pm • 1 0 • view
Some are going to practice it because they can. They don’t want the traditions and identity to go away With close to two billion Christians, Christians are not going anywhere Think of it as the stage when old things are considered junk and people throw it away. But when it becomes rare,
aug 25, 2025, 9:02 pm • 1 0 • view
An antique
aug 25, 2025, 9:02 pm • 1 0 • view
Atheist atheists WTF!!!!
aug 25, 2025, 5:04 pm • 0 0 • view
??????? Christian atheist?
aug 26, 2025, 3:58 am • 1 0 • view
I'm an atheist, but where I'm from that's pretty much the norm. I can understand why atheists in the US are angry. Imagine being the most disliked minority in your country just for that? Put a Darwin fish on your car and see how long it takes before it's vandalized.
aug 25, 2025, 9:35 pm • 2 0 • view
Christians: Going door to door making it everyone's problem.
aug 25, 2025, 2:40 pm • 2 0 • view
I was raised secular, and I can confirm you can immediately feel the ex-christian on most angry atheists hahah. It's just been replaced with something else to be theocratic about
aug 25, 2025, 1:14 am • 39 3 • view
Real atheists "God isn't real and as long as you leave us alone, we all will get along."
aug 25, 2025, 1:34 pm • 3 0 • view
Agnostics too. We only fight back when they try to impose their interpretation of a 2K year old book on morality onto my modern life. The Founding Fathers saw what happens to countries when the religious nuts take over a country. Why can't religious people respect their wisdom and leave us in peace?
aug 25, 2025, 7:38 pm • 1 0 • view
If they respected wisdom, they wouldn't be religious fanatics!
aug 25, 2025, 11:39 pm • 0 0 • view
christian atheists are right there with people who do crossfit: you're gonna hear about it
aug 25, 2025, 12:40 am • 66 2 • view
I'm vegan.
aug 25, 2025, 8:47 am • 8 0 • view
I AM FUCKING VEGAN GOT DAMBIT youtu.be/Yxs_mTRjLAU?...
aug 27, 2025, 4:05 am • 0 0 • view
OMG
aug 27, 2025, 11:05 pm • 1 0 • view
No, the problem is the Trumpicans think everyone must be fanatical Christians or leave the US.
aug 25, 2025, 2:02 pm • 2 0 • view
I've never seen an atheist knocking on people's doors asking them if they found out God isn't real. I've never seen an atheist develop an entire project 2025 to impose on everyone and take away rights and freedoms and insist their way is the only way.
aug 25, 2025, 1:31 am • 22 2 • view
💯 📢✊🏼😋
aug 25, 2025, 4:27 am • 0 0 • view
Atheists definitely do the online equivalent of knocking on doors. And, yes, they are not in power, but I have seen many fantasizing about eradicating all religions.
aug 25, 2025, 1:56 am • 28 0 • view
I just fanaticize that all you religious psychos stop killing each other and murdering kids. It really is a fucking low bar to ask.
aug 25, 2025, 3:54 pm • 0 0 • view
No, atheists do not do "the online equivalent of knocking on doors." Them expressing their lack of belief in God online is not "knocking on your door" because the Internet isn't your house. Militant Christians bomb abortion clinics. Militant Jews bomb Palestinians. Militant atheists write books.
aug 25, 2025, 4:49 am • 17 1 • view
I really have no problem with most atheists. Like most Jews, I don't need everyone to believe in the same thing as me, at all. But there is a certain kind of atheist that is *bothered* by expressions of religion, and feels the need to tell people to be Atheist.
aug 25, 2025, 10:36 am • 15 1 • view
And you should really read some history - militant atheists have violently suppressed religion when they were in power. Because they are people, and that kind of repression is a common human response to power.
aug 25, 2025, 10:38 am • 15 0 • view
Moreover, (and I really shouldn't be batited into responding to this) the conflict in Israel/Palestine is almost entirely a bog standard ethnic conflict over land and rights; religion doesn't play much of a role except historically. It's only in a Christian frame that religion is very important.
aug 25, 2025, 11:40 am • 6 0 • view
It's a bit wild to read this stuff when I'm surrounded by Jews from the former Soviet Union, and have family affected by laws in Quebec banning public employees like teachers from wearing kippahs, hijabs or turbans. I get that my experience is different, but that's kinda the point. 1/
aug 25, 2025, 3:44 pm • 10 0 • view
I was thinking of the suppression of religion in China under communism. But yeah, atheism is not better (or worse) than other ideologies.
aug 25, 2025, 3:52 pm • 4 0 • view
Yup, that too.
aug 25, 2025, 4:07 pm • 2 0 • view
The white American Christian experience is not universal. We are saying that when you grow up in a particular setting, your brain learns to see that as a universal norm. You may reject a specific aspect or belief, but that doesn't automatically rewire your whole brain and life experience.
aug 25, 2025, 3:48 pm • 9 0 • view
It depends on the ideology of what the atheist believes I wish all atheists were live let live, you don’t bother me, I won’t bother you type. I wish all atheist would understand that all religions aren’t the same
aug 25, 2025, 5:56 pm • 1 0 • view
Just like there have been tolerant Christian societies. It's not a function of religion, is my point.
aug 25, 2025, 6:52 pm • 3 0 • view
This just happened in Ottawa, to someone from a family I know. Nothing wrong with not believing in God, but a militant anti-theist can be radicalized to antisemitic violence. nationalpost.com/news/canada/...
sep 1, 2025, 1:28 pm • 1 0 • view
I am particularly annoyed at non Jewish atheist who feel the need to tell Jewish atheists that they aren’t Jewish, or atheist or both
aug 25, 2025, 5:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Did I pull your chain?
aug 25, 2025, 3:51 am • 2 0 • view
Was that your goal? To just be annoying?
aug 25, 2025, 3:56 am • 7 0 • view
I want to add my comment. I can only speak from my perspective and I didn't consider that perhaps this is true in other parts of the world...in places I've never been. To be clear, I feel people are entitled to beliefs but not entitled to force those beliefs or non beliefs on other people.
aug 25, 2025, 9:50 pm • 1 0 • view
I believe that YOU'VE never seen this, but you may also have never lived in the Soviet Union. I have family and friends who did, and this was in fact something that happened. Religious minorities in Quebec, Canada also lost jobs due to the Bill 21 secularism law.
aug 25, 2025, 3:37 pm • 5 0 • view
Christian fundamentalists: Bomb Iran, deport Muslims Christian atheists: Bomb Iran, deport Muslims
aug 24, 2025, 11:55 pm • 3 1 • view
American atheism was a huge reason for the apocalyptic and crusader like talk surrounding the War on Terror. They all logic’d themselves into thinking a religious person is inferior or inherently threatening.
aug 25, 2025, 4:16 pm • 2 0 • view
No. Those were the "Christians" in the Bush administration. Only Carl Rove was an atheist.
aug 25, 2025, 7:30 pm • 0 0 • view
No sneer quotes needed around "Christian." Christians are what they do in the world. Treating the term as a synonym for "good" reinforces Christian hegemony and supremacy.
aug 27, 2025, 5:13 am • 5 0 • view
they just can’t stop trying to convert people
aug 24, 2025, 11:20 pm • 64 2 • view
Horseshoe theory for proselytizing
aug 24, 2025, 11:21 pm • 59 1 • view
If only they tried a bit harder
aug 25, 2025, 4:20 am • 0 0 • view
Christians: Jesus is Lord and I’m going to make it everyone’s problem
aug 25, 2025, 12:58 am • 4 0 • view
Yes, that’s the joke. They’re behaving just like proselytizing Christians.
aug 25, 2025, 1:05 am • 24 0 • view
Ah.
aug 25, 2025, 10:55 am • 0 0 • view
Christian Atheists: God is not real and Santa Claus is just your parents Atheist Christians: God not supernatural, be like Santa Claus
aug 25, 2025, 12:32 am • 2 1 • view
The thing about Judaism is it's an ethnoreligion, so genetics do play a role. When I hear a Christian Atheist, all I think of is cringe.
aug 25, 2025, 12:32 am • 1 0 • view
My rabbi is atheist. It has nothing to do with being an ethnoreligion. A belief in the existence or presence of God is not a requirement to be a practicing, religious Jew.
aug 25, 2025, 12:37 am • 23 0 • view
What does your rabbi teach about god?
aug 25, 2025, 12:48 am • 1 0 • view
I don’t really understand what you’re asking
aug 25, 2025, 12:50 am • 7 0 • view
I've never had a rabbi. Do you two talk about god, or do you just talk about other things?
aug 25, 2025, 12:55 am • 1 0 • view
We rarely talk about God, we’ve talked a great deal about social justice causes. I did ask him who circumcised Abraham. In his sermons he’s spoken about Torah stories but IME, Reform Judaism just doesn’t deal a ton with God as like, a person we have to report to.
aug 25, 2025, 12:59 am • 9 0 • view
Yeah, that's all I was asking. If your rabbi talks to you about god and if there is anything in particular that they like to say.
aug 25, 2025, 1:02 am • 0 0 • view
So he's just an atheist playing pretend.
aug 25, 2025, 12:50 am • 0 0 • view
Thank you for proving my point. We’re done here.
aug 25, 2025, 12:55 am • 5 1 • view
Nope. Jewish ethnicity is not defined in any way by genetics.
aug 25, 2025, 10:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Almost onto something, there.
aug 25, 2025, 1:13 am • 0 0 • view
Jewish atheists know how to stick to their own lane
aug 25, 2025, 11:01 pm • 2 0 • view
so what’s the atheist atheist take? they all be effing losers. 🙌
aug 25, 2025, 1:08 am • 0 0 • view
Christians: trying to use the govt to force everyone to live the way they want Atheists: can you stop trying to force us to live like Christians? Christians: look!!! We’re so oppressed!!!!! DARVO
aug 25, 2025, 2:12 am • 10 0 • view
I've legit seen the argument that atheists were responsible for the secular versions of Christmas and Easter. I'm like, "you know, if Christians were so disturbed by Santa and the Easter Bunny, then stop buying that stuff yourself." Personally I never cared for either, and I'm not warring on X-Mas.
aug 25, 2025, 5:56 am • 2 0 • view
Christmas and Easter are so fun with kids! How can you not like them?? Also, there are reasons to believe in such things, there is magic, fairies are real, just not physically, and some of us interact with the world in ways others cannot conceive of lol and there's nothing wrong with either way
aug 25, 2025, 11:59 am • 0 0 • view
They’re perpetual victims.
aug 25, 2025, 2:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Im a little more concerned about the dead women bc of the anti abortion laws, while Christians pretend they’re not forcing their bullshit on everyone.
aug 25, 2025, 2:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Christian atheist is an oxymoron. Or do you mean conservative “Christians” who repudiate everything the Gospels stand for, and are currently trying to remake America as a theocracy aligned to their particular heresy?
aug 25, 2025, 8:32 am • 1 0 • view
No it’s not. Christian atheists are not themselves believers, but define “religion” in a way that emerges from a Christian milieu and don’t get that other religions aren’t that.
aug 27, 2025, 8:26 pm • 3 0 • view
"Christian" and "atheist" are two categories that have no intersection. Atheists may criticise religion based on atrocities performed by Christians, but few are unaware that all monotheistic religions are indistinguishable in that respect. Granted, nay have only limited awareness of polytheism.
aug 27, 2025, 8:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Way to prove the initial point. Yes, we undertsand that "Christian" athiest do no profess their belief. But the fundamental understanding they have is based on a Christian understanding of what "religion" is. And "All monothiestic religions are bad" is just trite ignorance.
aug 27, 2025, 8:57 pm • 3 0 • view
You have coined a neologism. The problem with your neologism is that it contains two words that are antonyms, such that nobody will understand what you are trying to say.
aug 27, 2025, 9:00 pm • 0 0 • view
1) I've coined nothing 2) Many people on this thread are talking about EXACTLY THIS THING IN THESE TERMS so clearly they understand. 3) How is this so hard for you?
aug 27, 2025, 9:06 pm • 1 0 • view
You coined a neologism: "Christian atheists". A Christian is a person who believes in the Christian version of God, which is anything from "love thy neighbour" to "kill everyone who is not white enough". An atheist is a person who does not believe in gods.
aug 27, 2025, 9:08 pm • 0 0 • view
1) EVERYONE in this thread who isn't defensively yelling "that's not true" is using that term. 2) We are describing an incredibly simple phenomenon 3) It's not ABOUT whether you believe in God. It's about whether you define "religion" based on a Christian understand of what that entails.
aug 27, 2025, 9:13 pm • 0 0 • view
I do not know a single atheist who defines religion based solely on the Christian understanding of what that means. My understanding of religion draws on experience of multiple faith communities including Hindu and Buddhist.
aug 27, 2025, 9:17 pm • 0 0 • view
"I do not know a single atheist....". Literally. On this thread. There are people who are athiests who can not believe that belief in God is not essential to being a Jew - and are telling us that we are wrong about that.
aug 27, 2025, 9:22 pm • 0 0 • view
All any atheist needs is proof. Still waiting.
aug 25, 2025, 4:18 pm • 1 0 • view
Hilarious! The religious are the ones always recruiting. Atheists don't gather or even hang out together, don't have to pay to be told how to live, are not expected to recruit non-believers, and are free from being guilted, shamed, or told we're sinners. In other words, we're free to be good people!
aug 25, 2025, 3:15 am • 8 0 • view
Jewish atheist here - recruiting non-believers, sin, lack of free will, these are Xtian things. Jewish atheists do congregate, most notably in synagogues, because Judaism does not require literal belief.
aug 27, 2025, 5:20 pm • 8 0 • view
gotcha!
aug 27, 2025, 8:50 pm • 0 0 • view
I don't hang out with other atheists because y'all are annoying.
aug 25, 2025, 4:20 am • 14 0 • view
A lot of christian atheists were also subject to a lot of good old fashioned christian child abuse, so if I can't talk with them I try to leave them alone.
aug 24, 2025, 11:37 pm • 27 0 • view
I was a kid abused and absolutely violated by violent Christian kids who got off Scot free for doing the absolute shittiest things a minor can do to another minor short of killing them. And I was told I shouldn’t ruin those good Christian boys’ future by ruining their names.
aug 29, 2025, 2:38 am • 0 0 • view
Christian atheists who harass minorities haven’t changed at all besides some drek in their head. They need to understand boundaries and the idea that not everyone has to agree with them. And yes, some of those atheists have called me an abomination for just being me. I have no time for them.
aug 29, 2025, 2:38 am • 1 0 • view
And by the way, I was targeted by Christians for being a dirty Jew, and by Christian atheists (in their words) for being a mentally ill trans person. Until they prove otherwise, I just see that movement as insisting they get to call the shots. Same drek, different day.
aug 29, 2025, 2:40 am • 1 0 • view
I mean I’d love to but they keep jumping in the mentions of Jews who are just trying to live our lives
aug 25, 2025, 12:33 am • 45 1 • view
So, I believe a Christian atheist is someone who grew up Christian but decided to be an atheist, right? So, I guess I am a "Christian" artist though I would not identify as such since I don't believe in God or Jesus as the son of God. I don't feel I push this on others since I'm never asked.
aug 25, 2025, 12:51 am • 2 0 • view
I think it’s that usually, or often someone who grew up in an explicitly religiously Christian culture (ie the American south or Utah) who may not have ever personally been religious or from a religious family but has had their interactions with religious people filtered through a very specific lens
aug 25, 2025, 1:13 am • 5 0 • view
Or, just, All of America...
aug 25, 2025, 1:16 am • 2 0 • view
I don’t really have much experience in the Midwest. I’ve lived in cities in the mid-Atlantic and northeast, and in the American south, and there is a difference. I get why atheists I’ve met from the south are the way they are. I figured California would be similarly secular with more woo
aug 25, 2025, 1:19 am • 2 0 • view
I guess I’m most confused by someone like Ricky Gervais who presents himself as like this brave truth teller for being an atheist, and it’s like, my guy, you’re from a country where no one has believed in god for a hundred years
aug 25, 2025, 1:21 am • 5 0 • view
Sure, but the hegemony of religious content that punctuates the year is still things like Christmas, Easter, etc—which reinforces what "a religion" must be or act like conceptually, and is truly national. Everyone hearing Christmas music may be atheist but it reinforces a view of what a religion is.
aug 25, 2025, 1:32 am • 6 0 • view
Fair enough. I think we might be talking about different things
aug 25, 2025, 2:02 am • 0 0 • view
Are we?
aug 25, 2025, 2:17 am • 0 0 • view
I think so. You seem to be talking about what it’s like to grow up in a context where there is a dominant religious tradition, which is totally a thing. I think there is a difference between that and growing up in a context where the dominant religion consciously teaches that you are an other that
aug 25, 2025, 6:14 pm • 1 0 • view
needs conversion, or that openly argues in the public sphere that you need to submit, and approaches its nature to the existence of the divine as an argument that needs to be won decisively. I’m telling you, it’s an inescapable difference even if you still hear Christmas songs in stores
aug 25, 2025, 6:14 pm • 0 0 • view
He is also a person from a country that has a King that is head of his countries own Church.
aug 27, 2025, 4:37 pm • 1 0 • view
aug 27, 2025, 4:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Retrospectively it’s very funny that English Protestantism was based less on doctrinal differences than divorce is in if you are king. competing with Spain and France to spread the true religion screaming at indigenous people that Catholicism is mostly right except the king is allowed to divorce!
aug 27, 2025, 9:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Ricky Gervais is as transphobic as any fundamentalist christian. He also sees atheism as something to proselytize. His outlook seems pretty christian overall. He must have picked that up from somewhere.
aug 25, 2025, 3:20 am • 17 2 • view
BOOP
aug 25, 2025, 3:21 am • 1 0 • view
I dunno. There’s plenty bigots of all stripes. See Harris, Hitchens, and Dawkins for details
aug 25, 2025, 6:16 pm • 1 0 • view
Dawkins now identifies as a cultural Christian apparently youtu.be/COHgEFUFWyg?...
aug 27, 2025, 5:16 pm • 3 0 • view
He has also praised the King James Bible and supported Tory plans for free Bibles in British schools www.theguardian.com/science/2012...
aug 27, 2025, 5:16 pm • 3 0 • view
Literally lol. I had no idea
aug 27, 2025, 9:21 pm • 0 0 • view
“Broadly speaking we are all cultural Christians in that we are the products of a civilization in which Christian ideas were ascendant for over a thousand years. Also I, Richard Dawkins, am specifically culturally Christian because I hate Muslims, and am uncomfortable with trans people and women”
aug 27, 2025, 9:23 pm • 3 0 • view
I don’t know if that last part was true just guessing
aug 27, 2025, 9:23 pm • 2 0 • view
Yeah. The organized atheist movement is full of racists, bigots, sex pests, and pedophiles. That's why I left. It was just like being in the christian church I grew up in.
aug 25, 2025, 6:22 pm • 7 0 • view
This is all news to me but I don't seek out other atheists. The Satanic Temple seems pretty badass to me but I've never been to a meeting so I don't actually know the people.
aug 25, 2025, 10:40 pm • 1 0 • view
I don’t like the term Christian Atheist myself But sometimes it works. It works against people subjecting every other religion to a Christian normative process. Like, I am not a Christian atheist, what makes you a Jewish atheist, are you something special That’s one example
aug 25, 2025, 8:35 pm • 0 0 • view