in summary the claim isn’t that there is a secret third gamete only that what we commonly think of “the set of organs and hormones and traits” that belong to one sex or the other sometimes naturally both manifest in a single individual. bimodal but not a strict binary
In this guy's view, the only thing that makes someone one or another sex is the gamete produced. Which is obviously dumb to anyone else.
Everything about the two sexes - male and female - always relates back to a gamete type. That is how the sexes evolved - from the divergence of anisogamic sex cells - sperm and eggs. This is basic biology.
okay but sex are you if have ovaries and a penis? what if you have a vagina and a penis but don’t produce gametes? what if you produce both sets of gametes?
The rules of this game are "name the actual medical condition" or we will just assume you are making things up.
let’s say you’re an androgen insensitive individual. you don’t produce gametes (iirc typically infertile) but while you have testicles your body looks externally female since your cells don’t respond to testosterone. what is this individual’s sex?
This is a complex medical condition, but if you are completely androgen insensitive then you body will develop as female - you are female.
Why? That would not follow from your claims about what sex means
Because when we talk about having a male or female **body** then it depends on how your body developed, doesn't it? Male of female phenotype.
You are one of those quacks that doesn't think intersex people exist, aren't you
Oh there are people with conditions that some call "intersex". I fully agree. But they are still male or female. There are also quiet a lot of people on the Internet who pretend to be intersex - it is a fashionable identity.
For someone so tangled up in a lot of failed reading comprehension you sure seem confident you know everything. I'm a software engineer and even I can tell the claims you are making are a full misunderstanding of the paper you linked and the thread & replies. You are way over your skis bub.
So you agree that it’s not only gametes! Congrats on coming around to the scientific truth
Male and female are defined with respect to a gamete type. There are two developmental pathways for your body - one is associated with eggs- the female body type; the other is associated with sperm- the male body type. This is not hard. But I appreciate how hard you are working not to understand.
But you just defined an androgen insensitive person as female for reasons other than gamete type. Such people do not generally produce large gametes.