It's a way of making pro-immigration politics legible to normies and everyman-ish. Not everyone cares about liberal rights or diversity qua diversity or whatever, but a whole lot of people love food.
It's a way of making pro-immigration politics legible to normies and everyman-ish. Not everyone cares about liberal rights or diversity qua diversity or whatever, but a whole lot of people love food.
Immigration makes your food better is a great argument
True on its face and also true as a synecdoche for all the less visible things immigrants tend to make better via the same mechanism.
The best argument. It certainly does.
And I think J.B. Pritzker, as a Man of Size who likes to eat, can make this pitch really well. Every time he visits a place, get a video of him chowing down on something delicious, like a political Man vs. Food.
Just show them what British cuisine still looks like. If they think an isolated whites, only culture is the way to go
Britain isn’t an isolated whites only culture, and never has been.
And our food is good.
err, British cuisine. Have you been here in the last two decades?
*centuries
That's diametrically the opposite of the point, unless you're a time traveller from 1950
Yeah what everyone missed because we were busy dunking on him for being racist later on, is that he’s under the misapprehension that Britain is an “isolated whites only society” as if we’re all living in A Connecticut Yankee at the Court of King Arthur instead of Britain in 2025 which has minorities
Come to Brick Lane or Green Street in London or Machester's curry mile or Birmigham's Balti Triangle and say that.
Or Bradford or Leicester or...
For real. I live in a tiny town in rural England and we have two curry houses. Every town I can think of near me has at least two or three, and even one of the even tinier villages has a pub run by Gurkhas which serves outstanding Nepali food.
I'm lucky enough to live in a city that is chock full of eateries. Within 2 miles I can get Chinese, fish and chips, BBQ, kebab, shawarma, bao, Indian, American diner, Korean, bagels, Greek, sushi, traditional British pub food, Thai, Aussie pies, Caribbean...
Even in my home village, there's an Italian place (replaced the pub and carvery food), and multiple curry houses in the next town along the road.
Were not an isolated whites-only culture. I dare you to come to any UK town or city and say that.
Britain is not a whites only culture, as much as you would like it to be
Hang on, I thought we've been overrun by immigrants for decades, centuries?
🤔 There's two things I'm unsure of: 1) The source of your demographics. 2) Which takeaway your using.
Like any of these? All dishes that I, a British chef, have served, in my British pub, over the last couple of weeks
Britain is only 75 per cent “white British” by ethnicity and our food has been delicious and multicultural for centuries
"our"
Yes Bill, some British people aren’t white.
Yes "our" you fucken bellend.
Yes? The only way you wouldn’t include British Indian food in “our” British cuisine would be if you were extremely racist?
He's a massive racist isn't he
Too busy
Sorry you're going to have to take me through this step by step: You say British cuisine is impoverished by not embracing multicultural cuisine Someone informs you British cuisine does in fact embrace multicultural cuisine Your reaction is "Then it's not British cuisine" ???????
Hi Bill, non-white Brits are also real Brits, they are part of this country and their ancestors are part of the heritage of this country, including its culinary heritage. Please do get back to me if you need any if that clarifying.
Yes? There are non white British people, stop being racist.
You are literally responding to a thread about migration being a benefit to food culture.
Like, I can find you a banging jerk chicken bagel in South London, it is "of Britain" in a way that is exactly analogous to a pastrami bao
You need to tell me right the fuck now where I can get that jerk chicken bagel
Bagel King, Walworth Road or Bagel and Jerk in Beckenham
Bagel Bite in Shepherds Bush as well
This came up on my timeline so I blocked it, thanks. This kind of thing is so dumb yet seems so widespread as well. Do they think that European cultures are hermetically sealed or something?
am still confused by the idea that Britain is an “isolated whites only culture” honestly
The British are famous for rarely leaving to visit or trade with other countries. Been that way for centuries don’t ya know.
Where does he think the USA's Founding Fathers came from?
They think Brexit means we don't have any contact with the outside world, and Mary Poppins was a documentary
he appears to have forgotten that britain is a country of immigrants and always has been since the start... funny that he is an american thinking this...
Fucking lol that this started with a pastrami bao and ended with "obviously Rishi Sunak is not English"
This is the sort of thing I'd expect a racist who doesn't understand inclusion to say. You're not racist, are you Bill?
Have you ever been within 1,000 miles of Britain, you racist arsehole…?
Less isolated than yours (in e.g. percentage of the population born in a different country)
Would you like to open a British history book perhaps
speaking of "isolated whites, only culture" what's the percentage of Americans that have a passport
Calling Britain an isolated whites-only culture is hilariously ignorant dude
Sorry i harmed your nationalist furvor with the truth Britain sucks. Easily one of the most evil countries to ever exist
Well yeah it is. It's fucking awful. It doesn't have to be of course and most people aren't anything like what you think. The USA pretty much speed-ran that level of evil in a significantly shorter time but you seem happy to be American.
It is actually possible to both have a terrible imperial history and to be a multicultural nation. It’s not nationalist fervour to acknowledge that British Pakistanis exist.
This is actually both racist and xenophobic now. Good to see you ticking all the boxes 👍
I’m an adamantly ANTI-NATIONALIST mixed race person who was born in Britain, to two mixed race parents who were also born in Britain. It can both be true that Britain has an evil colonialist history AND that Britain is multicultural and diverse. Very similar to the country YOU’RE from, no?
Well, they’re less so.
I dont give a fuck about defending Britain, I care about defending our immigrant communities from white supremacist yanks who think they know better.
This
Beautifully put 👏🏼
Britain is evil sure, but it's also simultaneously multicultural & multiracial. Like you're just factually wrong 🤷🏻
Yet we still gifted our language to a much worse one.
Ok but a Sunday roast fucks
Not going to lie a shepherd's pie slaps.
So does Chicken Tikka Masala, both are authentically British.
I mean I guess in the same way that like... Mexican food is now American. But I don't think anybody thinks chicken tikka masala is British. That's Indian cuisine. India was a British colony. So the British did what they usually do and steal... But that's not British cuisine.
You could have googled this, but you wanted the attention.
"Mexican food" is not now American, btw, just as we're keeping a tally of the multiple ways that you need to shut the fuck up
Stop being so fucking racist!
You just demonstrated in real time why America elected someone as stupid as Trump.....
By that measure only Native American food would be actual US American cuisine. And that's not really what you are trying to say here, right?
Hot dogs Hamburgers There are entire restaurants dedicated to "american cuisine" Applebees and many others
Hamburgers are literally named after the GERMAN city of Hamburg. Hot dogs are Frankfurters, after the GERMAN city of Frankfurt. That's white people food. America is not white people country. White people have MIGRATED there.
I mean, chicken parm is another American dishes. Similar to tikka masala invented by Italian immigrants in the US. My Italian colleagues (like actually from Italy) have strong opinions on it. Strong as in 🤬🤬🤬
I mention that in the alt text (not that he will read it) but I was making fun of thinking applebees as some sort of authoritative institution of “american cuisine”. They will serve whatever middle america will eat that week.
Oh mate..
Those are foods that immigrants, in this case from Germany, invented in the US based on foods from their home countries - exactly like chicken tikka masala.
"Hamburgers", now, where might they have come from? And who brought Hot Dogs to the US? Tip: There's a reason the sausages are called Franks, short for Frankfurters. Basically 90% of southern cuisine has African or French Canadian roots. Where does barbecue come from, eh?
The New York slice, bagels, the deep dish, the California roll ... all food brought over and invented by immigrants. How is he so dense?
People call bagels and sushi American food? We're going with that?
Dunno, maybe he was home-schooled
The hamburger actually has a bit of controversy around who invented it & how the name came to be, though it doesnt appear to have come from Hamburg, and at least the US Library of Congress recognizes Danish Immigrant Louis Lassen as the likely inventor.
I thought the Hamburg in Hamburger comes from Hamburg steak. All the Nordic countries have a variant of that btw. usually called frikadelle or frikadeller.
This is Rundstück warm, a hot slice of pork or beef roast in a bun. A uniquely Hamburg specialty, allegedly invented in 1901
It's cute that you think frankfurters & wieners were invented in America, but you just kind of disproved your own point. Americans using ingredients that weren't American to create American dishes for Americans = American cuisine. The same is true of chicken tikka masala & British cuisine.
It's really baffling that he thinks that it's completely legit if white immigrants invent a dish, but not when brown immigrants do.
ISN'T IT THOUGH? Telling!
Don't tell him where Hamburg and Vienna are!
Or Frankfurt, for that matter...
Ok cool, the only people who’d agree with you here are the far right, but go on.
In the same way that Tex Mex and soul food are American. Invented in Britain, by British Asians who are, suprise, British.
I do get your point. But may I remember that America is a whole continent and not a country, so Mexican food is, of course, American?
"But I don't think anybody thinks chicken tikka masala is British." I think almost everyone does except americans for some reason.
Because so many are racists even when they try to be woke. So if you’re not white, you’re not American or British but the specific country or region your grandparents came from.
I guess even Italians, Irish and Poles are not white and American.
Try and get chicken tikka masala in Delhi........
So much wrong said so confidently
Mate, basically the whole of the UK thinks that chicken tikka masala is British.
Knows that
This is amazing. Almost every word is wrong, but still amazing.
Do you go round insisting that Hamburgers aren't American?
I got news for you about where chimichangas come from
Please stop embarrassing Americans that live here in Britain.
British people think chicken tikka masala is British, in part because it was invented in Britain and Indian Brits are British.
It is British in exactly the same way as fish and chips is British (at least, the fish), and a New York bagel, or pastrami on rye, or Chicago deep pan Pizza, is American.
Another day, another American leftist with a take on British culture indistinguishable from something you’d hear from our far right. Britain is a multicultural country. British Indians are British.
Most British Indians were born here, which is more than I was :)
Pretty racist thing to say mate.
Invented in Britain by British people.
ctm is not indian food lmao, do you also think fortune cookies are chinese
Brit here. Chicken tikka masala is British. And you're a racist.
🧠☠️🤡
Dude. The dish was created by British Pakistanis. Certainly there was extensive theft by Britain from that continent. But this is not an example of it. You can just say 'Yeah, I made a load of silly and racist assumptions there. My bad. I'll go away and learn. And not just from Wikipedia'
I think Bengalis / Sylhetis captures it better. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_i...
Yes, it's got more complex origins than I realised. Thank you :) Learning things and refreshing your knowledge is good. (Cough, cough. Right Bill?)
It's giving the Come Fly With Me bit where Taaj is interviewed by the racist border control agent
I think he didn't even read Wikipedia tbqh.
Well, he certainly managed to do a screenshot of it. Not that it did him much good, poor dear.
Oh really? That's kind of hilarious then. Like if he managed to read the Wikipedia page and still came away saying this...
After the initial unfortunate post, I think. Doubling down, tripling down. Hell, why not try for infiniting down?
Did eating hamburgers and beef jerky rot your brain or were you always stupid and bigoted?
just here to contribute to the ratio. helvete.
Mexican food is "now" American? How are you somehow making it *worse*?
It is British
Bill, this is your lawyer, I'm insisting you keep posting through it.
Oh don't worry, I'm not going to let an island full of people who don't know what dentistry is slow me down
You're not even a real pony.
the average British person has healthier teeth than the average American, do you know anything about Britain that isn’t from hackneyed comedy routines from the 90s?
everything he knows about Britain came from the first Austin Powers movie
At least Americans finally learnt what Shagged meant.
i was so sad to learn playing oregon trail that so many americans die of dysentery. they should do something about that.
You're American. You can't afford teeth.
Glad you’re not letting little things like “facts” and “shame” slow you down, either. But please tell me more about how the only true Brittons are the white ones. Also, follow-up question: do the Irish count?
I don’t think you’re in a position to sneer at healthcare when your country has RFK Jr presiding over it. Glad you think loads of Brits being unable to afford dental care is funny too.
Don't sell yourself short, there's people from all sorts of different countries calling you an idiot!
You have a brilliant career as a hack stand up comic in the 90s!
Wow, you got us there. British dentistry is almost as bad as American healthcare. Nowhere near as expensive though!
British dentistry, despite huge cuts, remains the best in the world. We genuinely have the healthiest teeth in the world.
Bluesky needs a sarcasm font :p
Are you supposedly a leftist?
He’s a leftist by American standards, which puts him somewhere to the right of Norman Tebbit.
From his posts on this, he was about a millimetre from literally invoking the fucking Tebbitt test. It seemed to be subtext of half of it.
Keep doubling down and never admit you're wrong, kid, because that *always* works and it's mildly entertaining for the rest of us.
Do “death panels” next, that’s my favourite.
Have you considered this, right: Britain is a place that exists in the present. It's not just some legacy ethnicity for diaspora to hark back to. People come and go from it!
did you come up with this on your own, yeah? very original observation
Fresh from the streets o'Sussex, it is!
can you tell me the beer i drink is warm please
As your lawyer I commend this continued crashout, Bill. Congrats on learning TWO insane tropes, keep posting, I believe in you x
Two nations, divided by a common language
I can barely keep up, as none of the four television channels are carrying news about it.
And heh, the National Front are all over the place saying stupid racist things, going on marches and whipping up hate. Oh.
Anyway, you're not his lawyer. Where is your wig?
Haha poor people have bad teeth lmao!
Racist *and* classist, well done you.
www.yongeeglintondental.com/blog/healthy... got some real bad news for you bill
Yeah, but what you've listed there is evidence. Bill's got something better than that. He's got stereotypes.
The reason teeth can grow crooked is because modern food is simply physically easier to eat now than it used to be and we therefore don't spend all day chewing on tough foods, strengthening our jaws, and keeping our teeth aligned. It's not a Brit thing, or an anyone thing. It's evolution, baby.
It's also fine to have teeth that aren't perfectly white and straight. This guy is not only saying British Asians aren't British, he's also saying that to not meet incredibly narrow beauty standards is one of the worst things that can happen.
Yup! I figured I'd zero in on this specific item of bullshit and let more qualified and informed folks handle the larger argument(s) that I'm very much here for but are less in my lane.
Next how about the London smog?
You're a racist little cunt and no amount of tired old stereotypes about the UK will distract from your blood and soil perspectives of who counts as British. You are fundamentally a white supremacist who believes that British people with Indian ancestry are not British.
Oh no. He's pulled the dentistry lever. Embarrassing.
by 'slow me down' you mean 'educate'.
Uh oh www.cracked.com/article_1840...
Oof that article is not unproblematic though. 2010 was a different time
Yeah, fair. I doubt he'd write it the same way now.
Ticket down a notch
Puhlease. Americans have such bad teeth that they all have artificial ones by the time they are 22.
lol looking at your first post this is even more fucking stupid, you think a pastrami bao is american cuisine dipshit
Wait until you find out about American cuisine in general Billy boy. But we understand you spent most of school hiding under the desk rather than learning
Bruh you guys stole your whole country, genocided the inhabitants, and have absolutely no plans to give it back.
You denying the concept of British-Indian to British-Indian people isn’t racist? It escapes you as you view relations in the 1960s-70s through a Georgian/Victorian colonial lens. Rather than the more complex and nuanced post-colonial reality of working class Scotland in the mid-20th Century.
I have some even bigger news for you. Exceptionalism wasn't an American concept originally either.
My god,but youre fucking dumb...This you Septic?
In the same way that Tex Mex is American, yes. Everybody knows tikka masala is British, it was invented in the UK and is not part of Indian cuisine in India.
hi bill, the best part of your post would be the one where you come back and say "oh whoops, sorry i was wrong"
It was created in Britain for British people.
A white guy living in America accusing other people of stealing? I love that chutzpah.
And you'd be wrong.
you are very stupid
You’re actually just a moron and should delete all of these. They make you look really fucking stupid.
“The British did what they usually do and steal.” Hey man, that’s a sweet continent-spanning superpower you’ve got there. How’d you get it?
Mexican food is American because nearly half of the mainland US was Mexico. 🤡
tlaxcalli (tortillas) were being made in the mainland US for centuries before white people arrived
Try telling a person from Mexico that American Tex-Mex is Mexican and see what happens
Invented in Birmingham, England by Pakistani immigrants. So you're wrong twice.
Lol, yes by Pakistani immigrants. That's the point. Also, the origina claim is disputed. So i will accept just the one L, For not knowing the origins
“Pakistani immigrants aren’t really British” is just Reform orthodoxy, you weirdo
“By Pakistani immigrants” So… British people. Or do you think immigrants are not citizens of that country. Coz that has a not very nice word.
So your argument here is that people who have immigrated to the UK aren’t British? What measure are you using to decide this?
Great Replacement but make it progressive
Just one day of Americans not doing blood and soil nationalism and claiming I am not really British is all I ask for. Will never happen.
I'm just saying a TV show where immigrants cook and the loser gets deported would be the ultimate distillation of British culture.
Bet they could improve the ratings by deporting all the contestants except the winner
Delete this before a Channel 4* program commissioner sees it. *I was going to say Channel 5, but 4 would do it as a 'brave, earnest and powerful' series and would be horrified that 'Cook For Your Life' could be considered exploitative. (Is it still called Channel 4 or is it just 4 these days?)
There would have to be a money element involved, though, to reflect the culture sincerely. Maybe an Antiques Road Show type twist?
I've now got 'MasterChef' redone as 'MasterRace' in my head, luckily the potential hosts recently became free of BBC commitments...
Yeah that’s hilarious you white Tory cunt keep them coming 👍
Winner
And as ratings for it deteriorate fewer and fewer of their family are allowed in the live audience
Whoever makes the blandest food gets a visa? Call it the Great British Beige Off.
The odd corollary is all those Italian-and Irish- Americans claiming nationality of countries they’ve never visited because they had a granny or something from there. The rule seems to be “I’m American so I can be from anywhere, but you, you can only be from where I say.”
I’ve been thinking along similar lines. If being British doesn’t depend on having ancestry that goes back for generations, where does that leave the Americans who identify as being “from” whatever European country their ancestors emigrated from?
A prime example being Biden claiming to be Irish despite having primarily English antecedents. Or the Burberry Mac crowd on the Royal Mile who think they're 'Scotch' because they had an uncle from Machynlleth.
Ironically, given how the thread started, it's British in *exactly* the same way that pastrami (eg on rye) is American. And fish and chips (at least the fish part) is British.
I literally just thought "well, these comebacks are all very entertaining, but why am I reading a thread from last week?" Timestamp: 1h Dear God. (They think they're being progressive, too, that's what blows my mind.)
It is amazing just how casual the racism is, coming as part of a pro immigration argument. 'Immigration is really good and important for a society. Also, only white people can be British, lol'
A lot of Americans genuinely can't conceive of non-white immigration as anything other than involuntary. Which says a lot about their history and a lot more about them.
“You don’t know anything about history, take the L. Also Britain is an isolated whites only culture.”
It was fun when they were doing this when Sunak is PM. Like, guys, maybe update the imaginary image of the UK that you have in your head? Presumably you are basing it on the Freinds episode in London?
Everybody in the entire United Kingdom looks like this. True story.
"I'm a cool progressive, who has a more extreme view on race than Nigel Farage."
I reckon its not at "more extreme views than Tommy Robinson" yet, but we're not far off. bsky.app/profile/bill...
Your occasional reminder that the UK has ten Michelin 3-star restaurants whereas the US - a country with five times the population of the UK - has a mere sixteen.
Now if their cuisine were as shit hot as they clearly think it is they should by rights have at least fifty of the buggers, n'est ce pas?
bsky.app/profile/amrk...
Wait, are you saying that the Dishoom Big Bombay Breakfast is /not/ traditional Mumbai cusine?
Last time I had one of these, the African American skeeter responded to me, assuming I was British Indian, by saying Indians were an evil race because they have a caste system So that was “nice”
I also lived Stateside during the 2018 World Cup and most so called liberal Americans said France had “cheated” because the team were “ringers” and “not really French” - with the sole evidence being provided that they were black This stuff all does explain US support for Israel tho
The thing to understand about Americans is, other countries aren't real places to them. America is an idea, and the rest of the world exists purely as words to contrast America with, symbolizing a timeless tradition. Italy, for example, is a place of timeless food, not model anti-corruption laws.
I have met Americans who were pleasantly surprised that the great US invention, pizza, had caught on in Italy. Happy because they weren’t enjoying Italian food…
The reason there are other countries is to supply diaspora communities to the US. For Americans-in-waiting to emigrate to countries other than the US is not comprehensible, because then how are they supposed to become American?
I don't mind silly stereotypes about the British - it's the doubling down that's tone deaf, like trying to maintain a position that the French *just are* surrender monkeys after someone has told you that their granddad died fighting the Wehrmacht and they don't find it amusing.
Yeah, the joke is fine. It is that they are literally incapable of seeing the people going “this is racist and I find it personally upsetting” as people.
People have commonplaces in their head that they won't let go of even in the face of facts and common sense, often because they make them feel good about themselves. "British food is awful because Brits are all white" is one, but "US Democrats would be a right-wing party in Europe" is also this.
One of the underlying issues is that even fairly educated Americans know less than nothing about the world beyond America. They are the most solipsistic nation on earth. I’m sure many believe we’re an “isolated, whites-only culture” in the same way they believe we’re an absolute monarchy.
"I don't mind" == extremely unsubtle code for: The worst situation is not people getting angry and asking you to take it back - it's when people are just terribly sad about what you've reminded them about. Not a lot to do but think about what you done.
Hey man, if you want to claim brown people can never truly be citizens of western nations maybe stick to doing it on your own country.
Imo Pakistani immigrants to Britain are British is your position that that is not the case
Your point only works if you make the categorical assertion that Pakistani immigrants can not be British. Hopefully I don’t need to tell you what a racist assumption that is.
Is it your position that people who emigrate to Britain cannot be British? That’s the mainstream racist view, for sure.
So Pakistani immigrants aren't allowed to be counted as British even though they settled here?? Racist much.
British
Pakistani immigrants. So.. British. Yanks do love to reinforce the global stereotype of Yankery, don't they?
Who invented Mexican food?
ok so there isn't any American food, because it was all made up by immigrants?
Wait a sec: so a) immigrants aren’t British, b) things they provide as services in their adopted country is theft, c) they've been brought here against their will so we can steal their culinary skills? I’m not sure how you think frankfurters came to the US but they weren’t invented by the Iroquois.
also at what point are the British (read: English) no longer German / Scandinavian? because apparently emigration doesn't place you anywhere else than where you came from
jab, jab, jab, KNOCKOUT ROUNDHOUSE 😙👌
To say nothing of the fact that most 'Indian' restaurants in the UK are owned by Bangladeshi 'Londonee' families whose members take turns working in them so that they can buy a home *in Bangladesh*. "Stolen."
you do realise immigrants become nationals of the country they move to , Otherwise most americans are still immigrants. This is why food discourse on here always has racist overtones
In the UK, that's the real point. Once enough people from any origin practice their culture in a place, that culture (which is always mixed up to some degree) becomes part of the culture of the place. Or else, are you claiming the only "US food" is native American food?
Brown people cant be British then? Please do furnigsh us with a list of dishes that are purely American and not either invented by or indeed brought over by immigrants to the US. Americans update their view of britain to something more recent than the 1940s challenge... IMPOSSIBLE
So they don't count because they're not white?
Immigrants to Britain are British unless you're a fucking racist, Bill.
...... Ummmmmm..... That's going to come as a surprise to British people.
Not really, but it seems to have upset you so much you make shit up again. You literally had to learn about the dish over bluesky, you posted that.
Your mentions are currently full of British people telling you EXACTLY THAT. Including plenty of non-white Brits asking you to stop saying they aren't British, as that's really quite astonishingly racist of you. Race has nothing to do with whether or not someone is British!
Fuckwit
I'm British. And an immigrant. And you are utterly, ridiculously racist and ignorant.
What makes you think that? This Brit is honestly curious. When you get British citizenship, you’re British. Is that not the same in America?
Bill, I am a British person. People who've immigrated here are British. Hope that helps!
So you’re saying immigrants to Britain aren’t British ?
Multigenerational Indian subcontinent & Pakistani immigrants who identify as British - but thanks for lining up with the far right in denying them their nationality
Bill, do you think because Pakistani people who move to the UK aren't labelled British Pakistani, the way you'd call them Pakistani American if they moved to the US, means they aren't British?
I know we shouldn’t take your trolling bait but… You’ve completely missed the point about what makes food here amazing. Completely. You think you know us, but then you’re American, that’s what you guys do. Whatever dude, peace.
And fried fish was brought to Britain by Sephardic Jews and ther potato was 'stolen' from South America by Walter Raleigh, so fish and chips isn't British either. Ridiculous, an American lecturing Brits on what indigenous food is. Why do you care anyway?
The Anglo Saxons were immigrants too if you want to really hammer it home. As were the people called British by the Romans.
Invented in Glasgow, not Burmingham. www.bbc.com/news/uk-scot...
Sorry Birmingham.
He might be thinking of Balti, which was invented in Birmingham
He’s as British as Queen Victoria, what you talking about.
Is that directed at me. I know he's British, my only point was that he was a Glaswegian not a Brum.
It’s a Blackadder joke about how Britain integrates people.
"Not a Brum". No one is a Brum. The city of Birmingham is Brum.
Wikipedia notes that the CTM was around at least 10 years before the Glaswegian chef opened his restaurant. But I love that different parts of Britain want to claim it. Because it's British.
The Balti was invented in Birmingham. As was the Phal Yeah Brits can't handle flavour
I mean, I (tried and tested) cannot handle a Phaal :P A nice Jalfrezi is my go to/limit :P
Wait until you find out how America got its hands on so much of Mexico
“Immigrants can never be British iamveryprogressive”
Amazing to read this thread and watch you progressively double then triple down on your racism. Well done Bill. Very progressive
Chicken Tikka Masala was invented in the UK.
Next you will be claiming Nando’s is Portuguese
Well, you did steal massive amounts of Mexican territory…
And also a whole lot of Native American land
> But I don't think anybody thinks chicken tikka masala is > British. Literally, everyone but racists - or I suppose people on the internet trying to google their way into knowledge of the UK - thinks Chicken Tikka Masala is British.
Also if you try to tell anyone Indian - British Indian or Indian Indian - that Tikka Massala is Indian, they'll insist it isn't. You can't say we stole something if they don't claim it as theirs.
Just because you don't know about stuff doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Obvious example, here's coronation chicken from 1953 (the clue is in the name). I guess it's what an American might call a 'fusion dish'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronat...
If only the later inventors of stuff had gone for names like Jubilee Chicken or Lamb Brum we wouldn't see these silly takes. (For example in Japan a classic comfort food is Kare Raisu. It's a completely Japanacised version of 'curry & rice' and no-one eating it in the West thinks 'cultural theft!'
What's funny about that one is our many have its origins in British curry that was served on Royal Navy ships. The Japanese navy at the time modelled itself on the RN and copied the food.
That would definitely explain the English name. I love how food travels around the world! (Remember first running into Kare Raisu in Japan about 20 years ago, and being very puzzled by it. Love it now, sometimes make it at home)
There’s a whole range of Japanese food that came from outside Japan, including Katsu curry: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C5%8D...
Okay I'ma have to leave this thread, because rather than fretting about cultural whatevers, I'm just hungry, and now I want Japanese curry in a taco.
> we wouldn't see these silly takes Optimistic!
Scottish in particular, no?
Isolated, whites-only culture? We’re talking about Britain, not fucking Pitcairn Island!
What would you show them? We use seasoning to enhance food, you use it to cover for shit quality food
I've seen Americans argue that Brits dont use enough seasoning because they dont use things like onion powder or garlic salt. It didnt seem to occur to them that you might use actual onions or garlic instead.
I had one saying beans on toast was seasoned by tomato ketchup and posted me an ingredients list of a posh tomato ketchup That didn't contain any actual tomato
Me: *merrily putting excessive amounts of garlic onions and shallots in everything*
I know you're getting piled on for this, frankly with good reason, but I have to ask: where in the UK have you eaten?
You think Britain is an isolated, whites only culture??
#shitamericanssay
BillTheFuckingIdiot
This would also hit on the "small business" vibe that a lot of Americans seem to love. Its just a fact that millions of people have come to this country with the dream of opening a family restaurant.
No bacon sandwiches. Ed Milliband orders an egg and cheese, and we’re not in this disaster today
The vision is strong. Get that a man a Cubano. A Viet-Cajun Crawfish Boil. A Roast Pork with Broccoli Rabe. Skyline Chili. Birria Tacos. Seattle Teriyaki. Nationalize Guy Fieri's whole vibe.
He could be the first Dem in forever to look actually comfortable at the Iowa State Fair. He should commission a life sized Butter Pritzker.
You would also never catch Pritzker at a grill putting cheese on raw burgers
I'd like to watch him flip that burger just to see if he has an "oh no" moment
TBF I think the joke is that this is the first time Schumer used a backyard bbq
I also cringe at seeing eyeglasses placed lenses-down on anything.
My lenses alone are $250. No frames, just the lenses. So I have a for lines holder next to my bed so that nothing can harm them.
Is that grill even on?
"The Khan's Fusion Food Journey" Featuring: - Thai tacos - Samosa chaatdish - Bulgogi pierogi - Sisig crunch wrap supreme - Curry fried chicken
Shit, I bet bulgogi pierogi would be fuckin great
speaking from personal experience: it is. korean-polish (in common love of cabbages?) and korean-mexican (common love of deliciousness) are the best fusion korean cuisines
Polish food 🤝 Korean food Feeding you cabbage for a healthy gut but also maximum farts
I'll say that traditional Ashkenazi brisket and kimchi go together incredibly well.
that sounds amazing and also reminds me that ashkenazi and korean cuisine both do really love themselves some pickled and fermented little guys
THIS IS AMERICA
Fusion food is the pinnacle of globalization.
A lot of Americans are fat, and I think Pritzker being fat genuinely makes him vibe more like an everyman than you'd expect for a literal billionaire.
This is also part of Trump's appeal — as is Trump's shame im his fatness, *both* relatable to Gen X and older. But we don't need that! We can have body positivity instead!
Hoping Pritzker can restore the honor of big dudes in American politics, so re entry besmirched by Fetterman
We need a Jolly Fat Man, not an Ogre.
He has work to do at home. He probably would be an improvement on Starmer.
And there's nothing wrong with being fat. He's a big guy, who cares.
Our current President is also a fat guy! I don't get why people pretend this isn't true.
He tries to hide it rather than just gracefully being a Large Gentleman.
He's also lost a lot of weight as of most recent photos, which is part of what's been fueling the rumors.
Which is dumb, we love an oaf! Homer Simpson is our most popular role model!
I disagree! Immigrants are good because *they contribute to what makes us great*. Immigration—and the pluralistic values that make welcoming immigrants work—isn't charity for the immigrants, it's what makes us strong and prosperous and free.
"But what about immigrants who don't contribute" that is a null set! Everyone contributes when they come here. The conduct of immigrants who are shitty people rarely has anything to do with their status.
Ppl who cherry pick the occasional unrepresentative “criminal alien” need to be asked if they think Italian and Jewish immigration to America in the 19th and 20th century was a mistake and net negative
The greatness of America is when we hold open the Golden Door to let the poor huddled masses in to breath free. And the huddled masses contain within them spines of steel, because to travel to a new country with nothing and make a home there requires immense fortitude.
Immigrants create more jobs than any other group, full stop. And they bring awesome food. I see no problem.
The people who brave the Darien Gap and the Mexican desert to come to America and build a new life are more American on the day they show up then J.D. Vance and his disgusting ban of fascist freaks have ever been in their fucking lives.
I challenge *anyone* to walk miles in the Sonoran Desert, at any time of year, and say they haven't "earned" it.
Theil and Musk should be stripped of all their assets and be deported to South Sudan. Miller too. Fascist cunts!
it's obviously possible to overdo it (like anything) but basically, the idea of a perpetually renewed cultural life in America is huge
Yeah I think the "immigrants do the jobs Americans won't do" stuff is genuinely objectionable, if possibly good politics, but highlighting the enormous benefits of immigration to all of us isn't the same thing.
Still can’t top the Halal Guys across from the Inner Harbor LITERALLY NEXT DOOR TO A CHICK-FIL-A (In this scenario, Judaism is apparently represented by the Chick-Fil-A’s other neighbor, a Shake Shack)
I feel like America is so warped if he adopted JB Pritzker: Man of Size as a brand people would respond to that
Woke Guy Fieri. Maybe not the hero we want, but the hero we need.
That's right
A lot of Americans are scared of “foreign” food. Despite living in the South Asian culinary center of North Texas, my parents had never eaten Indian food until I married an Indo-Mauritian guy and they felt like they had to show support. Now they love it.