Idk how his supporters see him vocally turn so quickly on trans people and think he won't "change his mind" on a whole lot of other shit too if he thinks it'll help him politically. I don't think he ever really gave a shit about trans or queer people to begin with anyway.

Parasocial relationships are a hell of a drug. The fantasy Gavin who lives in their heads would never turn on trans people, so they think the real one won’t either.

I don't think he ever really gave a shit about people to begin with anyway.

This exactly. It would be one thing if he had a principled history of transphobia (that would be bad too!) but he clearly did this in response to Trump's win last year. He has no consistent principles other than a desire for power.

Every time I mention this to one of his supporters I get called either a bot or a trump supporter lmao

And the worst part of all this is that all this backstabbing and shifting about DOESN'T help him politically. All it does is demoralize and discourage potential supporters without winning any respect or votes from our opponents or "uncommitted" folks.

What an absolute ghoul

Remember when Newsom vetoed a bill on capping insulin prices? Or when he ordered the state to “clear homeless camps” aka steal and destroy their personal property? Or when he agreed with the fascists on trans issues? Or when he platformed fascists? I will NEVER vote for that cunt

Yes, Gavin, pronouns are super complicated. I'm sure you had so much trouble using pronouns during that interview.

Couldn’t even give people 2 days of “I think he’s reprehensible but his fight is good” before hitting the circuit

Imagine loving to talk about a single subject as much as these hateful fuckers

There is literally no reason to be backing this man other than you agree with him on issues like this And don’t talk to me about the fucking memes (which put money in Trump donors pockets) do you (libs) honestly care when the right memes you? Yeah…

Broke: Standing with marginalized people, having actually good policies Woke: Calling Stephen Miller a bitch on Twitter

also it's not even him making the memes, it's a team he pays to make memes (or maybe they are unpaid interns)

it's not even the unpaid interns its the fucking sam altman industrialized theft and rainforest burning machine

Im not buying a house in California now even though I pre-qualified.

Not seeing it so here's the article if anyone wants a fuller summary of what he said www.yahoo.com/news/gavin-n...

I'm surprised I missed this back in July.

He already showed us who he is, unacceptable for the 2028 candidate. Nothing changes that.

Are you fucking kidding me. This is why we say we will Never vote for him.

Who will you vote for anyone got some names?

basically anyone who doesn't openly advocate for killing minorities, I'm really not picky at this point

that means not supporting genocide, not supporting any transphobic rhetoric, and not destroying homeless people's shelters and belongings. It also means not trying to be all "tough on crime" and "we need strong borders" supporting a rabid police state

Yes so again, who would you vote for?

Hi, you have THREE WHOLE-ASS YEARS to come up with better candidates than fucking Newsom. Get started. NOW.

Maybe the trans community can rehabilitate kamala harris?

So who?

We're literally years out and technically no one is even officially running yet, (not that I think anyone should announce their candidacy now). But literally, *anyone* who doesn't advocate for killing minorities. I'd take literally anyone who doesn't advocate for killing minorities

So you don’t even know of one person you would consider? Most people could list off at least 2

oh my god, either learn to read or stop being voluntarily ignorant. when I say ANYONE who doesn't advocate for killing minorities, I mean ANYONE. why do I need to name people when I would take ANYONE who's not ontologically evil

So you got no one? Just a list and if they don’t check it all off you don’t vote? I mean there are plenty of names you could be saying but you won’t. Maybe because no one will check off your list?

I will vote for anyone running that doesn't advocate for killing minorities, why are you struggling so much to understand that? It could be *literally* anyone. Besides, why are you happily advocating for someone who wants us dead?

I am not advocating for anyone. I was asking to name a candidate you would vote for.. It’s kinda odd. Pretty sure it’s just making sure no one will ever be able to satisfy and that is the reason.

But when I ask people who are concerned about killing and war, they got no one…

Tim Walz, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, JB Pritzker, Andy Beshear, just to name a few. All of which have more integrity in their fingertips than Newsom does in his entire body.

This. I don't need purity. I need HUMANITY.

I may disagree with them on some fronts, but they're not trying to adopt MAGA views on human rights the way Newsom is.

EXACTLY.

This would be infuriating if I didn't already recognize him as an enemy

Enjoy this shit and concentration camps. Clown.

@nerdskull.bsky.social

Yep I already reposted.

heck, I saw it and I wanted to make sure you had seen it too. Fuck Gavin!

@alt-text.bsky.social

Alt text retrieved

*claps like a seal at yet another piece of AI slop from newsom's astroturfing team*

Sorry Gavin but until you support all of us youre just throwing us all under the same bus

I was fucking defending this guy for the last few days but this is a red line. We need to protest this guy ASAP. I don't know how to do that. 25 what the fucking fuck? That is tantamount to control over our bodies. Unacceptable to even say that.

Can we begin ignoring him and forget that he’s said some ok things too? Because a few ok things don’t make this anti-trans BS acceptable.

I hate to agree with a slur from the Orange Blob but Newsom really is Newscum.

gavin sucks, but this isn't a new appearance, it happened a month ago and he was rightly excoriated for it at the time

Excoriated by who? Not the "vote blue no matter who" blue resisters. By trans people and the like 2 cis people who seem to care. Get real.

so?

Fight Trump and maga with all the tools we have or get ready for a 3rd maga term in office.

Fuck newsom, if this mother fucker wins the 2028 dnc primary we are fucked

Voiceless communities are political canaries this guy is gonna turn out poisonous. 🤷‍♂️ in my unprofessional opinion

"ermmm why do you STUPID TANKIES demand such a silly insignificant thing like 'not throwing trans people under the bus' when theres a GODDAMN CHEETO IN THE WHITEHOUSE!!!!"

and now there's a guy ITT doing this tweet unironically, god i am so done with liberals

the democrats are going to run this guy, suffer a historic loss due to their own hubris and just general obsession with courting a non-existent voter base (“moderate” republicans), blue maga libs spend trump’s 3rd term yelling at people on bsky, cycle continues. time is a flat circle.

And blame the progressives for their loss.

Even the left prefers Trump to Democrats.

you’re incredibly stupid if this is your read of this.

The top priority of the online left is that Newsom or another Democrat candidate won't be the next president, even if it means enabling another Trump term again.

Online lib with a faceless pfp.

the only people enabling another trump term is the democratic party you dumb asshole.

remind me again didn’t newsom basically do a photo-op of him personally helping clear homeless encampments last year? now going on podcasts and parroting right-wing talking points and throwing some of the country’s most vulnerable people under the bus. but ya we’re enabling another trump. eat shit.

You got the wrong person to complain about removing homeless encampments. I do believe that if people didn't further normalize extreme transphobic policies by getting Trump elected, Newsom would not get away with his crap. And maybe wouldn't be even considered for 2028.

"Yeah, it's the trans people's fault for this guy saying they shouldn't be allowed to transition, not his" Holy shit

What is the quote from?

By “the left,” are you referring to Chuck Schumer’s imaginary friends, the Baileys?

😂 The Bailey’s voted for Trump 5/6 times, and he has to think about them with every decision he makes, even though they don’t exist!!! They’re his most important constituents!

Yeah, we're just using this asshole to troll Trump and maybe get some extra House seats in California He's not and won't be a serious candidate He blew it already

Exactly, he serves a purpose, but that purpose is not to be a serious presidential candidate.

You are replying to a troll. Check them out. They haven't posted diddly squat.

When are we to expect all those actually serious presidential candidates?

AOC, Pritzker, Wu... there are plenty more out there, we're just obsessed with one particular Type Of Guy. Plenty of time before the primaries. There's no reason to pledge undying loyalty to the guy ALREADY throwing vulnerable people under the bus, unprompted.

Trump never stopped campaigning after losing in 2020. By the next Republican primaries there was no real competition. Newsom may be trying to achieve the same thing. A good candidate appearing soon could also somewhat shift people's primary focus from hating Democrats.

He's not a good candidate if he sacrifices trans and unhoused people. Hope this helps.

Which means you actually need to find a good candidate, soon.

Trump probably won’t even see these lol

We definitely didn't see this coming! And in other news, the sky is blue!

I'm glad we're burning off the Newsom momentum far, far away from a presidential election. This shit won't last; he sucks six ways from Sunday.

Patrick Debateman

*creep motherfucker

Trans rights are human rights

"I don't want to go through the effort of creating a just society, I prefer if the people being treated unjustly would just shut up about it." #Newsom28

My gov Andy Bershear is who Gavin Newsom thinks he is

Huh that’s weird. Somebody was just trying to tell me he didn’t mean it the first time and we should adore him for not meaning it

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It seems a lot of people are conflating support for Newsom epically trolling Trump/MAGA, with support for him as a political candidate. I am loving his team’s current PR blitz. I am so here for it. Yet he would never be my pick for Prez. He is problematic on that front for soooooo many reasons.

it's as I've long said: he's a useful Tool. nothing more.

Oh look, a third rail ment to divide liberals.

We’re gonna have Trumpism forever if this is the best the Democratic Party can do.

I'm honestly curious; if the trans community, which I truly support, was able to secure every right except for full participation in women's sports, would that be acceptable? And if the answer is no, why not? I'm not advocating, I'm asking.

deeply unserious question

no, not at all. It's a serious question. I don't have the answer because I don't have any understanding of the physiology of men vs women or any innate differences from birth by gender. but that seems to be a big sticking point, so I was curious. if you didn't want to answer, you can just ignore.

Reeks of professional troll.

I'm honestly curious; if the black community, which I truly support, was able to secure every right except for full participation in school, would that be acceptable? And if the answer is no, why not? I'm not advocating, I'm asking.

Would trans men get full participation in men's sports? But no, full equality means full equality. There is no science behind sports bans, just a multi-hundred-million-dollar push from the right.

"Just Asking" is nothing more or less than trying to get away with bigotry behind (paper-thin) cover.

okay, let me take the bait and treat you like you were operating in good faith on the tiny chance you might be no, because those kinds of compromises are never where it ends. there's no world where people who hate trans people would settle for that, because that's just a wedge issue for them

Thank you. That's very helpful and makes complete sense.

It is because the goal isn't "trans people can't participate in sports" the goal is "remove trans people from public life" As Erika says, trans people have compromised and continue to have rights removed. The goal of the people doing this is to keep going until there aren't any left.

the thing really is that the compromises have already been made by trans people hormone testing in sports was the compromise. puberty blockers instead of just starting trans kids on HRT was the compromise. we already *met* cis people halfway, and the goalposts keep moving

once you've made that compromise, it will be used to force other compromises. if its not safe for trans women to play sports with cis women, then maybe its not safe for us to be in the same bathrooms. maybe its not safe for us to be teachers. maybe its not safe for us to be in public.

soon enough, its not safe to let us live

what you've written moved me, and really helped me understand the issue better. That was the one thing I was questioning, but your explanation pushed me off the fence. as a gay man I get it, I just didn't think sports was important, now I know it's not about sports. Thank you very much.

Obviously fucking not. Do you think black people would be satisfied with every right except participation in sports with white people?

I'm asking because many people believe that there is an innate difference in athletic ability between genders. I have no idea if that's true, and I truly don't know where I stand on the issue because I don't know, so I was curious what others thought.

The science shows that trans women and trans men belong in their respective gender categories alongside their cisgender peers. HRT is a great equalizer.

That good to know. Thank you!

You are welcome! If I may, the underlying point is that exclusion from sports seems sensible based on our understanding of what cisgender men and women athletes look like. What shakes things up is that they largely look like that due to their hormones and trans people tend to change those to match.

thank you again. your responses really opened my eyes. I didn't understand before, but now I do. I've always been a strong supporter of trans people, but never knew what to say when people would ask me about the sports thing. Now I do and I'll be quoting you! I hope you have a lovely evening.

Yay thank you! You too!

Trans women are not a different gender from cis women. There is no measurable advantage we have in any sport. Even if there was, it would still be immoral to ban us, for the same reason it would be immoral to ban cis women with abnormally high testosterone, or people who are abnormally tall.

Trans people's lives are not an "issue" that you get to have a position on.

No. Our existence and participation in society isn't up for debate. Change the world 'trans' to any other marginalized group that has had to fight for their rights, and see if you would feel comfortable asking the same question.

okay so here's the idea. we just need one kid in a hole

I don't know what that means.

This is a reference to "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas." I won't spoil it, but it's a short story, freely available online, and the thoughts it engenders in its readers reflect the position you have already espoused on trans issues

I haven't espoused a position, I asked a question because I truly don't know the answer.

Omelas is a dystopian paradise whose excellence depends on keeping one child in perpetual misery, as the exception to the rule. Tortured, starved, imprisoned, kept from everything Omelas offers everyone else. "I'm okay with 99% acceptance" explicitly ISN'T acceptance. Trans people deserve dignity.

okay so the town can survive the bust. we just need to throw some teens in a lake

look, maybe I asked the question wrong, or maybe it's a question nobody is allowed to ask, I don't know. I was just wondering where the red line was. You've made it clear where you stand. thank you

You're going to get a lot of hostile answers, and it's because trans people have encountered, again and again, people equivocating on our rights, giving in to their segregation. You don't think you've arrived at a perspective yet; you think you're being reasonable, genuinely a curious person.

And because of these hostile responses, you're most likely thinking you're being attacked for being reasonable. Maybe trans people are unreasonable; maybe they're a cult of some kind. I don't know if that's what's going through your head, but I wouldn't be surprised.

We're responding to the idea that our participation in society can be debated, that there is something where there is a reasonable "both sides." That's why people are angry. If you genuinely want the actual science, here's a good video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vtj...

Thank you. I'm a queer man, so I understand that anger. I made the mistake of thinking "it's just sports".

it's really not a lot of teens. and look. we got a grocery lion

He's a placeholder. We have plenty of time.

I'm all for watching right wing tittybabies piss their pants because someone finally made fun of those morons to their faces. Now we need to have someone do it louder, more aggressively, and with politics that don't suck shit and an agenda besides corporate evil.

Dude should just run as a republican

Why the hell does he think he has to do this?

He probably actually believes it.

I think he knows damn well it's not the truth and he's saying it for political purposes. Both possibilities are abhorrent, but my gut feels as if he's a cynical bastard. It's awkward when a cynical bastard is doing the right thing in one category (redistricting) & doing the wrong thing here.

Well I figure the legislature gets credit for the redistricting. But then I am super not inclined to give Newsom any credit at all given his record on not supporting trans and homeless and worker tights.

Understood.

Damn. Maybe that "let's behave like trump" thing is not to be contrary after all. Maybe he's being sneaky about going full on MAGA. I hate people who talk out of both sides of their face.

Despite being a privileged cis man, he has no balls

Is this today

Nope. A month old.

Ok. Doesnt change how much this dude sucks but just wanted to check

Yeah. We don’t need to misrepresent his behavior to demonstrate just how shitty he is!

Modern democrats should be the new right and then we can vote for an actual left party.

FOUR HOURS?

I only have one vote that probably doesn’t matter, regardless I will do the overwhelmingly fair thing and give Dems 3 years advance notice that if they want it, they should not have Gavin Newsom as the nominee.

This is the problem with Democrats if they don’t go with your ideology 100% they’re a bad person

Yes people who don't support human rights are bad people. This is not controversial.

Oh my God cause he has a difference of opinion he doesn’t support human rights. You guys take it way too far. That’s why people get fed up.

His difference of opinion is that trans people don't deserve full rights.

When it comes to sports.

Yeah. An opinion which relies on denying science in favor of siding with a pre decided hatred for a group of people. Trans people have been allowed to compete in sports for a while now with no issue.

And transitioning at all. He doesn't want trans people to be allowed to transition. Holy fucking shit get it together. He literally says 25 is too young to transition, what is wrong with you even besides that.

No response? Shocking

Why should anyone respond to your obnoxious, bigoted ass?

No, I just think you were wrong and I just proved you were wrong. The guy goes in sign legislature that actually protects their choices but you just take bits and pieces of an article and turn it into a unfounded claim. 23/ 26 that’s semantics it doesn’t matter he still passing laws to protect them

And where did I ever give you any hint of which way I lean in this debate. Yeah you call me big without even knowing or asking you just lash out. You’re the far left that everybody thinks is unreasonable while the rest of us can sit down and have a conversation about things.

He signed SB 107 which protects the parents choice to make that decision under 18. Do you people actually look into this or just get rage baited on social media

Yea it should not be the parents' choice.

That’s an opinion that doesn’t make you right

I think he said the brain isn’t fully formed till 23. Didn’t hear him say what you’re claiming.

He said 26, and said it in the context of restricting trans people. Learn about "context" and "subtext" before you spout off.

Doesnt matter what its about. He wants them to have a second class level of rights. Thats the problem.

Now he wants fairness in sports and they are certain aspects were transgender and sports are just not gonna be fair

That is patently and provably false.

Most sports could be--and should be--gender neutral, but they aren't. Not because men are so much stronger and faster than women, but because a man's fragile ego couldn't handle it if a woman beat him in a fair contest. Here's my favorite example: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_...

found the list of thought-terminating poorly-camouflaged white supremacist excuses.

This is from a month ago, but here’s a snippet of some of what Gavin said. As a trans person, I’m happy he’s attacking Trump, and I’m okay forgiving him if he apologizes to the trans community and promises to do better (and not listen to the bad advisors). That would require humility.

He won't do shit and is just saying shit to take your vote.

FkThatGuy

That’s the dick everyone wants to suck 🤮🤮🤮🤮

I did not see the podcast and I do not know Newsom. On the other hand, we know he is not a Nazi who wants to tear up the constitution, Rigg elections and kill minorities and people of color. As long as Miller, Leo, vought gnome and taco are around, Newsom is a hero by comparison.

A polite fascist shit is still a fascist shit.

As long as it doesn’t PERSONALLY AFFECT YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC!! If you don’t know, perhaps don’t speak so emboldened about it!

As far as I'm concerned, Gavin Newsom is the John Edwards of Martin O'Malleys. (I published my piece about meeting John Edwards in 2004 elsewhere.) bsky.app/profile/dick...

"hey i don't know what you're talking about but here's my opinion on it" why post like this? what does it accomplish?

"I know Newsom wants to do all the things Trump is doing, but at least he's not Trump"

And it is way too early to know who will get the Democratic nomination in 28. This is very much a situation like choosing between Hitler and Stalin. Churchill & Roosevelt hated Stalin, but felt they needed to make an alliance with him since the devil himself was the alternative.

Newsom is literally in the news because he wants to do gerrymandering but blue. This article is about him throwing trans people under the bus. He personally participated in destroying a homeless encampment and used it as a photo op. Like he very much is doing those things actually

We really can't just catch a break

It’s not him that bothers me nearly so much as all the rank and file democrats who are calling me a trump supporter because I’m accurately reporting that he is anti-trans, anti-homeless, anti-immigrant, fascistic, and generally awful in a million other ways Absent them, he’d be no factor

Just when you start to think, maybe this time.......🤨

We are literally just trying to live. Maybe focus on the pedophiles sheltered by the highest office?

Fuck this guy bsky.app/profile/chee...

Fuck your anti-trans bullshit, @gavinnewsom.bsky.social Not only does your social media sound like trump, your policies/beliefs do as well.

White folks out here already having buyer remorse when yall mostly voted for Trump or stayed put at home.

The fuck are you talking about? I hated Trump when he was Bill Clinton’s best friend.

But but but his tweets are so cool that makes it okaaaaaaaaaaaaay

what a ghoul

When was this podcast? This pic is from 10/2024.

the article is from last month

Are people sure he’s not running for maga candidacy?

Link? What exactly was he saying?

I mean you could just copy and paste the headline into Google but here's one article on this:

Alt text added 💛

Well done, you! Thank you for your service!

I am starting to get the impression that Newsom is the anti-Mamdani that the Dems hope we call all rally around and avoid (or at least push off) discussions about economic injustice.

Centrists be like “only Gavin Newsom can save the nation! We must all vote si! Gavin Newsom is always right!”

Isn’t Gavin doing such a good job getting under Mussolini’s skin?

Calling @karaswisher.bsky.social

Does he realize they keep inviting him on because it is wrecking his image and chances of winning the presidency?

Pritzker does so much better on this.

And prob has a lot more of the general public “likability” factor if he runs. Of course incredibly wealthy, but …

He is one of the few very rich people who doesn't skeeve me out or make me immediately suspicious.

that's the kind of political concession reasonable people can make

A) fuck this guy B) is this from his July 14 time on the show, or did he go on again?

Oh, yeah this is the July 14th one. www.advocate.com/news/newsom-...

Thanks! And also… good I guess? I’m glad this transphobic asshole hasn’t done it again. But also, I don’t think he’s changed his positions at all. It would just be wild for him to do it again now that his trolling campaign has gained so much attention Either way, never voting for a Newsome ticket

I assume he's been too busy planning the "trade" of voter disenfranchisement, which uh, to be clear also sucks. We'll see what happens after that happens. Wouldn't be shocked if he starts doing transphobia on podcasts again.

How did the purity test work out for ya in 2024? Still glad Kamala lost because she wasn't woke enough??

If you’re calling trans rights a “purity test”, you’re a transphobe. Period.

Your take is not hot. It is just wrong. No Dems voted for #IQ47 because Harris wasn't "woke enough." I don't know you, but you argue like a MAGAt.

They may not have voted for TFG but if they sat it out then they supported him by default, that's the way our electoral system works unfortunately. Do I think Newsom is our the greatest candidate ever? No 1/2

However, Newsom one of the few Ds speaking effectively rn and he, Crockett, AOC & Bernie deserve support not a critique over a single policy or statement. Form your circular firing squad and nit pick every candidate that has a chance with middle America but do so at your own peril.

"Should trans people have rights" isn't a purity test. It's the god damn bare minimum requirement.

I will never ever vote for this asshole.

I don’t understand why we can’t shut this shit down with utter contempt, the way we would if someone spouted racist slurs in public. Like, you can’t make an honest effort to use someone’s preferred pronouns? Are you stupid? Do you deliberately mispronounce people’s names too?

Oh white guys have made an entire thing of deliberately mispronouncing names, in a “jokey” way.

Maybe we all need to start being more brutal when that happens. Like “are you having a stroke? My name is an-DRE-a” etc. etc.

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Wanting to be president this badly should be a capital crime.

Kamala & Cuomo's humiliaring defeats made it very clear, "We're not Republicans" isn't enough to run on anymore, yet Dem leadership doesn't seem to have gotten the memo yet. #NotNewsom2028

Well, enjoy this: bsky.app/profile/alix...

Let him cook now and the ask him to fuck off afterwards. Solid plan

But he’s left wing, apparently

lolololol

Had some guy argue with me that he’s actually a socialist and denying it just proved I didn’t understand linguistics

And saying such nonsense just proved that this person had chocolate pudding where their brain is supposed to be.

Every time I feel grudgingly supportive of him or at least laugh at his tweet parodies, he goes and does something like this again. Fuck.

If you vote for this shitbag, you are voting against my rights and humanity, and you can go fuck yourself.

💯

“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time”

Fucking gavin newsom. Half of America's voting population is convinced that he is a satan worshiping communist and he thinks he can win them over by promising to bring integrity back to womens sports LOL. You shouldnt support him because hes a transphobe but you really shouldnt because hes a moron

Don't support his transphobia but do support the redistricting he's pushing. All blue states should follow suit with that particular strategy.

I have mixed feelings towards it because I do think it is an appropriate reaction to what is happening in Texas but also at the end of the day the result is still less fair elections for his people and it further reinforces the idea that this man is just Blue Trump and shouldnt be president, to me

It seems to me one path leads to never being able to undo it (Red midterms) and one path leads to the potential of reversal and "never again can this happen via legislation" (Blue midterms)

Yes I agree Gavin might be a good "wartime" Democrat but you can hardly blame me for not really appreciating the fact that this dude's best idea is to copy the bad guys

I unfortunately believe it is mathematically the best strategy. Game theory dictates a 'tit-for-tat' strategy is optimal when one party is not cooperating. It seems to be an engrained feature of the universe we live in.

Cool just a reminder what we are talking about here is purposefully making it so people's vote matters less or not at all in a country where most people already dont vote because they think its a sham

The alternative is a country where voting doesn't exist.

I agree that is where we are headed

This is why - as useful as Newsom is on other fronts - I cannot trust him. At all.

Say that!

Dammit.

Newsom is a politician, not a leader, not a unifier. But he’s a straight White male so the establishment is like HECK YEAH. Sorry, future generations. If any exist.

Newsom fucking sucks ass, worse then MAGA.

Aren’t there any better democrat options than just Newsom?

of course

Yeah, but they’re busier on more popular people than the ones with good voices and can represent the people.

oh get fucked gavin

My name is also Gavin, and I enthusiastically approve this message.

Bro isn't getting my vote, I don't care how many memes he farts out

That picture and quote are from 2024. Can we PLEASE just focus on a singular issue of saving what little bit of democracy is left? I’m sure Olivia will come at me, but I’m focused on ONE THING.

The trans community is focused on the singular issue of surviving. We are not concerned about making sure you are not inconvenienced by our extermination.

Again, not what I said and dear God, not what I support. But hey, have a good evening.

Are you trans or Latino or homeless? Because of not, it is fairly unlikely your life is in any danger regardless of who is president. Whereas for trans people and homeless people's lives are still endangered by the candidate you're trying to convince people to get behind.

I'm afraid from the perspective of someone whose life *is* in danger, and who you are advocating for a candidate who wishes to abandon is to our fates, what you call "saving democracy" *is* just about your own comfort. We can't do democracy while dead, so you're not saving *our* democracy.

Which is why you asking us to get behind Newsom is effectively asking us to fall on our swords for the sake of your own comfort. And why we react with hostility when you ask us to do so.

And, btw, while y’all push against Newsom, where do you think the GOP will take you if they win in 2026? And again, I support LGBTQ rights for all. Not even a question there.

Same place Newsom will take us off he gains power.

My point is that I’m NOT advocating him as a candidate!!!! He is standing up and fighting now. He advocates redistricting. I am NOT thinking about 2028 because we have to get through 2026.

Whether as a candidate or as a pundit, you are advocating for people to let him cook. And the thing he wants to cook is us.

That really doesn’t seem to be the case according to my friends in CA. But I hope you have a good day.

Well then your friends tell a different story about him than he tells about himself in every public appearance he makes where he comments on how we're a losing issue and protecting our rights is why the dems keep losing (even though they barely tolerate us) and how he agrees with Charlie Kirk.

And how "pronouns are weird" and how kids shouldn't be allowed to transition even with parental and doctoral consent and how trans people shouldn't be allowed to play sports or use public bathrooms.

Has he made a full-throated change to support trans folks? Or did he make some memes and posts you like?

You just proved my point. Thank you.

How? He went on fucking Charlie Kirk's fascist variety show podcast in March, is that recent enough for you? Newsom sucks and the Dems have to do better.

"Im willing to sacrifice trans people if it means I get the 'democracy' that enabled Trump twice to go back to enabling trump".

Sure. That’s exactly what I expected. You probably voted against Biden because you wanted to make your point about Gaza.

Biden wasn't on my ballot last I checked.

🙄

Do you mean Kamala? I actually did vote for her despite disagreeing with 90% of her policies, but please go off about how we need to intentionally sacrifice people again so that you can go back to brunch

These Newsom stans don't seem to understand that we are 2+ years out from the PRIMARY and this is exactly why we need to have the arguments now and not when we come down a general where a lot of us will have to hold our nose and pick the lesser evil.

I personally cannot wait for people to call me an idiot enabling whoever the GOP ghoul is if I don't vote for their chosen savior in the primaries, because it really seems like "vote your heart in the primaries" is just getting thrown in the dumpster for these people.

It's not from 2024, him going on the podcast wa last month.

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Thanks for the warning so I know to mute you

Use him for redistricting, lose him after.

Yep, he’s scum.

I love the mocking of trump! I believe redistricting is necessary and I hope other states follow GCN in doing so. IF, and I mean seriously IF, we get fair elections in 26, then we can choose a presidential candidate for 28.

Reminder: Camille Zepata & team are the ones lighting up this guy’s socials — he’s clearly NOT

This right here is why I'm begging people to stop making me have to vote for his punk ass in 2028.

If he's the best they have, they have nothing.

dems wanna do maga but with a different name, naturally. why dont people see this? the dems speak plainly on what their goals, values, and methods are.

That's the worst thing. There are so many bests. So many politicians been busting their asses the past 9 months for us. But people don't see that. They see the funny social media team posting memes and shitty AI images and think "finally someone's actually DOING something!" A brain-dead nation 😩

Hell, if they want "muh capitalism" in a package that is actually not total garbage Pritzker "I won't throw lgbt peolpe under a bus" governor of Illinois is RIGHT THERE.

Isn't he defending hospitals that deny care to trans people?

Googles right there - www.google.com/search?clien...

Ok

Anyway, my point was to be careful trusting a guy like Priztker to not throw LGBTQ people under the bus.

Yeah this Pritzker love is baffling as well. If he was a decent person why is he hoarding billions of dollars?

I feel like the former high ranking AIPAC member can't be trusted

Because we live in reality and noone is going to make billionaires an unreality en-masse anytime soon.

Then it should be incredibly easy to prove he's not like the others. It doesn't even have to be something grand like starting his own news network. He could simply house the homeless and feed the hungry people in his state, that would prove he's a good person

Or he could advocate for LGBT people and fight against Republican oppression. There's more than one way to do good.

he's just keeping it safe for us.

Gotta keep it warm and fresh

I think because he's less hated than Bruce Rauner. I'm still bitter from when he refused to reconcile the higher education budget, which meant it wasn't paid out for over a year. Many schools had to do layoffs, including where I worked. Some rural community colleges didn't survive, just gone now.

Seriously, I cringe so hard any time I see folks simping for a billionaire who literally bought his way into higher office. This is not a Democratic savior, this is a massive part of the fuckin problem and somebody who would be nowhere in the world of real campaign finance reform.

In 2020 he spent $56 million of his own money supporting of a constitutional amendment that would change IL from a flat tax state to a progressive tax state thus allowing it to tax millionaires & billionaires at a higher rate than ordinary people.

In '23 he spent $1 million helping organizers here in OH get on the ballot referendum that restored abortion rights. In '24 he spent around $3 million more to help organizers get abortion referenda on the ballot in multiple states.

The best summary of Pritzker's very solid first term for working people is: www.currentaffairs.org/news/2022/07... But Pritzker has continued be great second term too e.g.: www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/g...

He's spent 1.5% of his vast fortune. This is the equivalent of you or me donating $400 in a year. It's not nothing but it's not much either

*shrugs* I didn't even bother to list the individual Dem candidates or the charities or the museums he donates to. Or the tens of millions he spent on his own campaigns (& other than Tim Walz & Mark Dayton he's the most progressive governor of any state for the last 25 years minimum)

the entirety of it is that Illinois democrats were bracing for the worst when he won election and then we were pleasantly surprised by him not being another Gavin Newsom. he is not good, but significantly outperformed expectations

"significantly outperformed expectations" is basically the best you can hope for from 9/10 "good" politicians. We can wish everyone had the guts of AOC or Bernies policies, but at this point i'll settle for "At least seems like they will put up a fucking fight".

he is the most AIPAC man to have ever AIPAC'd but has the brains to downplay that in the current media environment, putting him head and shoulders ahead of a slow and ugly field.

#Pritzker

#Pritzker

#Pritzker

Yeah but he’s fat. I wish the logic of the average American were more complex than that, but it isn’t.

So like... I'd agree with you before 2016 but... you know... *gestures broadly*

Trump's third term it is.

and yet we're expected to "suck it up"

And just last night someone was lecturing me about how he's actually pro-LGBTQ+ rights and supports trans people, as if he changed his mind after agreeing with Chuckles the Kirk not that long ago.

The Nazis get a lot of mileage out of taking small issues and blowing them up to piss the old white people off. This may be all that Newsom is trying to do. Disarm this argument. If we’re gonna take pot shots at people, it should be Stephen Miller and all of those ice Nazis. Taco the worst!

Not sure if you knew this, but capitulating to your opponent at every opportunity is actually a losing strategy

amazing that you passed the bar

Newsom was vetoing bills that would protect trans people and stomping on unhoused person's property to aggravate old white people?

but he also signed a bill so Chino School District (or other districts) couldn't out trans kids to parents

"taco the worst!" mate you live in a dictatorship, you sound juvenile

How does it disarm the argument to agree with it? You sound like a fucking moron.

because when Chino School District tried to out trans high schoolers to their parents by telling parents they were using a different name, Newsom signed a law saying schools can't do that. I don't think he dislikes trans people, he just goes which way the wind blows

Deja a trans woman has become homeless She has a place to stay out of state but she has no way to get there and no money she only needs $150 to get there. This would keep her alive and safe is anyone willing to help with this?

lol wow

I've seen it too. It's gotta be astroturfed. It's all over reddit too

The number of times I’ve been told, “Well you see, he didn’t agree with Charlie Kirk _generally_. He only agreed that trans women have real advantages that should be regulated.” As if that’s better? He only amplifies one right-wing lie that’s also a major wedge wielded against us, no biggie.

He may have always felt this way personally but only now feels emboldened to announce it to the world. New transphobes are the most dangerous because they're the most motivated to act on their hatred. Newsom becoming President will be disastrous to the trans community. He'll be worse than Trump

He's a Saruman, not a Gandalf.

ok so he's disqualified for president but he's still allowed to counter-gerrymander and make fun of trump's socials

This is the perfect distillation of the situation. He’s serving his purpose now. He doesn’t have one in 2028—at least not in the White House.

This whole conversation is the reason America is in the state it is. Not everyone is going to agree with you or make your priority their priority. Even when you feel slighted treat people the way you want to be treated. Do you and love yourself

Why is our only Dem that actually hits back also jackass?

He's not even hitting back. He's done fuck all of consequence, just post. His threats to redistrict California are also hollow because its all run independently.

The people who are elevated by mainstream media are intentionally chosen based on their acceptability to the people who own the publishers. Tons of people "hit back," but they are not highlighted by the media because they are also anticapitalist or otherwise "too radical" for billionaires.

Gavin Newsom is not special, he just has relationships with the right people to be elevated. Unlike people who would actually do meaningful things to improve situations for everyone, because those "right people" benefit from the toxic systems that need to be torn down to achieve real progress.

Newsom always felt one step away from hunting the homeless for sport.

Like Ron Wyden, he's probably the best Senator we have. But no one except those familiar with Internet laws recognizes him and is the only one who consistently calls out censorship bills.

Pritzker is better in every single way, including "hitting back."

I don't see him often enough to know, but I won't deny it either.

If he's the 2028 nominee, I'm not voting for him.

Drink paint, gavin

I remember people saying things like “Trump would be worse”

Trump is currently using secret police to rape and kidnap people Newsom is a cunt but he isn’t that level of cunt my dude

Newsom won't stop any of that from continuing to happen if he isn't committed to protecting civil and human rights for all Americans. The stuff that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up requires someone committed to rebuilding it.

This is all the Dems have. They're the party of "not as bad as Trump"

The party of "Lesser Evils".

At least he types in all caps now. Right?

Fuck you and your purity test. You gave us Trump

Unless you’re telling me there’s literally nothing they could have done better, the Democratic Party is responsible for losing the elections they lost.

The candidate has to campaign to win. They have to work hard to get people to vote for them. Thats how elections work; it’s how they have always worked. Votes don’t just passively roll in.

If we want our party to win, we have to demand that they campaign well. Blowing sunshine up the party’s ass when they have dogshit policies and run dogshit campaigns sets us all up for failure.

If they want to win they have to work for it, and if what they’re doing isn’t working they have to try something different.

addicted to losing

Sometimes I think he's getting pushed forward so much by the Dem establishment because they want to keep losing. This way, they don't have to do anything, just keep sending thousands of texts every damn hour for $$ to "STOP TRUMP." After all it's not a political party, it's a fundraising operation

I saw someone call him a dead-eyed shark and I can’t unsee it

I hate this fucking guy

It seems like people just.. Forgot about Newsom being a piece of shit when he started trying to "own the right", and now I'm seeing some democrats trying to prop him up as some kind of hero because of it. Just because the other guy's a scumbag doesn't mean you gotta support another scumbag.

Don’t worry, President Don Jr. or President Vance will put all the trans people into nice little camps, where they can have their own sports teams, schools, and even a camp newspaper.

Whats with people fantasizing about putting trans people in camps? Cant we just find a actually good canidate and not back like, the homeless person destroyer 9000?

Someday, the perfect candidate will appear, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Further, Newsom has done/spent more than any other governor to create housing for the homeless. He’s told cities to make every effort to get them off the street and into that housing. Homeless camps are a danger to everyone.

If Newsom continues to stand with anti-trans people, then no matter how effective Newsom might be against Trump, in the long run, Newsom will be just one more bigoted a$$hole using whatever power people grant him to fuck up peoples' lives. None of us are free unless all of us are free.

im tired of the world being full of terrible people

SEND HIM TO THE TRASH CAN

Uh wasn’t this like a month ago

Yep, he still sucks. Memes don't make up for it. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

More concerned with bashing trans people on right-wing podcasts than opposing Trump, and we’re supposed to treat this guy as our saving grace?

**Read the room** We do not have time to make everything just peachy right now.

You have three years. THREE. FUCKING. YEARS.

If you think expecting a leader to have moral principles when it comes to human rights and not be in the pocket of big business, you are contributing to the problem. Also, the election is 3 years away. If now isn’t the time, when is? Do you actually think there’s a time to hold them accountable?

He does have moral principals. Just because his don’t exactly align w/ yours doesn’t make him a cartoon villain for never-satisfied factions of the left. The article references the “pronoun thing.” Yeah, that’s something that empowers trans people and that’s great. Don’t expect everyone to do that

The idea that I and many I care about should have less rights than everyone else is not a difference of opinion, it is hateful rhetoric with intent to take dignity away from people. Strom Thurmond didn't have a "difference of opinion" with the civil rights movement, he was just a bigot. Same here.

His “moral” principle is that trans people deserve different rights than cis people. He shares that “moral” with Donald Trump.

Educate me. I have a hard time believing he wants trans people to have less rights. I’m being sincere because I’m stuck in TN, don’t really follow Newsom, and he looks like Jesus compared to the Y’all Qaeda we currently have running my state into the ground.

Newsom has previously vetoed trans rights bills. He has taken an extreme, violent stance against homeless people (trans people are nearly ten times as likely to be homeless as cis people) and he's committed to pass more anti-trans legislation.

Good to keep the pressure on him then.

Why would you comment about this if you admit you don't know anything about Newsom???

I don’t know everything. I know he’s doing something. Fuck the bullshit purity tests. He’s not perfect but you fuckers are far worse.

He isn’t doing something. Having your staff tweet AI slop isn’t doing anything. If someone is drowning, laughing at the guy who threw them in isn’t helping. You feeling good about it is meaningless; the measure of action is that it causes material change. Newsom hasn’t.

I'm not saying you have to know everything. I'm saying that it's weird you feel the need to defend the guy while also admitting you don't actually know what you're talking about. Newsom isn't just "not perfect", he's bad. Full stop.

That’s where i stop giving a shit. Everyone is “bad full stop” - Hillary, Biden, Kamala. Go form your own fucking party and vote with the dems when you agree. Or, keep digging your grave and continue getting raw dogged by the GOP. I just don’t give a shit about purists anymore. MAGA’s bitches.

the sheer caucasity

Nope! It was never “exactly” or “perfect”; he doesn’t says things that we find intolerable because they’re completely incompatible with our core principles. You’re repeating propaganda that has no connection to reality. It’s never been a purity test; it’s just that a lot of team tests rancid

Yall need to get jobs

That would be great. Do you know how hard that is as a trans person in America right now?

I hope you wake up with shit in your bed

Then hire my disabled transgender ass right now, bitch

Nice deflection, Hannity.

Oh no i've angered the cis white women who use LGBT rights for clout what ever will i do .

I am literally transgender, you dense fucking dumbshit.

The fucking audacity. LGBTQ+ rights are my ass on the line. Newsom backpedaling on trans rights means I'm acceptable collateral to him. I wouldn't be able to hold a job if I could just get fired for simply being a fucking tranny.

Your problems unfortunately are not the most important problems 🤷🏽‍♂️

You need a vacation to the Sarlacc Pit

employment for trans people and especially trans women are at depression-era levels because of shit like this, eat my whole ass

sure be a lot easier if Gavin Newsom weren't supporting government discrimination against them now wouldn't it

Can we get a link or at least a name of the podcast where this happened? Maybe even a transcript? Some source other than this pic?

sure. www.advocate.com/news/newsom-...

I don't vote for people who don't stand up for my rights.

Fuck him we don't need this hate

guess there is no need to bother with 'the whole voting thing' then

THIS MOTHERFUCKER

Every single time I see someone praise this man, I want to shake the person until they learn or they fall unconscious.

Please alt text your images when you post them

Pathetic amoral shill

Transphobia isn't even an election winner. He's into this and burning down homeless encampments out of love of the game.

so he's straddling the line by offering the right transphobia and assaulting the homeless, and offering the left abortion and cheap Mexican staff? That sounds like a candidate for literally nobody.

i think his donors believe trans panic can reverse digital id hesitancy among conservatives, so feeding it only helps them to the payout--even if it makes him an unelectable pos

It really is! I saw it in Ohio!

He’s trying to make it an election winner. He’s proof the white part of the democrats is just the left hand of Trump.

Don't forget how much he loves Insulin being unaffordable – so much that he vetoed a unanimously-approved bill to lower the cost of Insulin

i keep seeing newsom supporters laughing at and mocking trans people that are legitimately upset the transphobia isn't an imperfection; it's a feature

He does not need it to win, he wants it thinking he does not need us to win

Newsom is such a piece of shit

I like his maga trolling but his throwing marginalized communities under the bus for clout is giving me Hillary Vibes so...

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Absolutely fucking disqualifying. If you're transphobic, you're MAGA. Period. I was actually willing to give this homunculus a chance if he'd at least fucking changed or tried to grow something resembling a soul but clearly that's beyond his manufacturing. NGMI. He can stick to posting lol

Shawn Ryan is such a greasy piece of shit, too. This is gross all the way around.

Noting that this article is from a month ago; obviously horrendous, I hate him, wouldnt surprise me if this trend continued, but this one didnt just come out

I cannot wait for the rest of the Dems to make this slimeball a footnote in resistance history

Vote blue people will claim we are asking politicians to pass impossible purity tests.

“What, you expect him not be be bigoted toward ANYONE? Be fair!”

leftists assembling to attack democrats the microsecond a democrat gains traction in the media and there is an election at stake that would help democrats.

There's not even an election going on right now! No one forced him to pal around with right wingers and throw minorities under the bus or pose for pics destroying encampments. Are people just not supposed to talk about those things?

I'm not surprised. This is the slimeball who tried to lure Canadians to visit his state because tourism is down and he needs our money. Ignore ICE and just throw caution to the wind. He doesn't care about us, he just cares about our money.

He also praised some of Trump's tariffs while he was running the ad campaign in Canada. If he were simply all talk that'd be one thing but he actively backstabs people.

All we really need from him is his social media team

Link?

just had to type the headline in darling

Thank you for ridding me of a task

Newsom is pure SCUM! Share this everywhere and contact your local governors. Because these Bathroom Bans are inhumanely evil and must be combated then defeated. For Trans Rights are always and will forever be Human Rights! 🏳️‍⚧️ #TransPeopleAreBeautiful 🏳️‍⚧️ #ProtectTransKids 🌎🫂🏳️‍⚧️

Fuck that guy he's splitting us up more!

Fuck this sentient 500 dollar haircut motherfucker

I love how he is trolling Dear Leader but he cannot be president. We need a president who will protect EVERYONE!

wow you brought out some of the very dullest of our “allies” with this one. lots of “but this is almost a month old! what even is a month, a year? two years? who’s to say. I am too cultured a gentleman to fall for such sinister trickery” from people who are now blocked and therefore no longer exist.

Has he ever been on a non-Nazi podcast? Dude doesn't want to beat Trump, he wants to be Trump.

Imagining a reality where everyone celebrates over a Newsom win not realizing that we're about to get Keir Starmered

THIS, so hard.

Right back to his regularly scheduled program

Be better, Gavin

Jeez, can we not do this? I have plenty of issues with Newsom, but he's fighting the fight that needs to be fought *right now* and I'm glad he's doing it. You don't have to vote for him or even like him. But none of what's happening now in this country gets turned around unless... /1

Are you worried that he’s going to stop fighting fascism if people aren’t nice to him about the harm he‘s done? Doesn’t seem like a very reliable fighter against fascism if that’s such a concern. He’s also not a good fighter bc he doesn’t fight for all marginalized people. He’s sacrificing us.

Don’t trans people and homeless people ALSO need people fighting for us? That’s how you really fight fascism! Why aren’t you elevating the politicians, candidates, and local leaders who are doing that? You could be putting this effort into getting progressive candidates through primaries!!!

Fucking tell him to not do this! No one is fucking making him do this!! Why the fuck do you assholes keep giving him permission to spew this fucking hate at us??

It's the bigotry. Like the Republicans, as long as he's harming the right people, it's all good for these assholes.

the fight that needs to be fought right now INCLUDES fighting for trans rights. these are not separate fights. if newsom is anti-trans, then he is pro-fascism. his fight against trump is merely a disagreement over who should be the fascist in charge, it is not a disagreement about fascism

Quiz: How long as Newsom had a veto-proof majority in all three houses in California?

"Can we not acknowledge this shithead who I've decided is Che Guevara because he makes mean tweets about Trump is a raging transphobic fuckhead? It makes me have a sad!" Go fuck yourself, it shouldn't be hard given your lack of spine

Shut the fuck up with your country club ass name and ideology

Me: To protect the rights of marginalized communities we must get the GOP out of office, so I'm glad Newsom is helping to do that. The Performative Left: ShUt ThE fUcK uP yOu CoUnTrY cLuB nAzI sCuM!!!!

how in the fuck does supporting newsom help trans people and homeless people, just to begin with? two marginalized groups he vehemently, personally opposes?

I didn't say you have to support Newsom. I said you should support what he's doing to get rid of 5 GOP House members and help deprive the GOP of power because the GOP is committed *at an institutional level* to harming the communities you claim to care about, and removing the GOP from power... /1

How do you define "support" here?

For starters, if you live in California, then you should volunteer, knock doors, phone bank, do whatever you can to build support for the redistricting proposition that will be on the ballot in November. Promote and support it on social media. Do it loudly, proudly, and often. /1

When it passes, then you can go back to hating Newsom. Until then, all hands on deck. /end

Do you find ordering people around usually works for you? I think, on the contrary, there's a lot to be said for speaking to fellow voters as equals. I have faith in your ability to be civil and respectful to your fellow Americans. :)

Who's ordering anyone to do anything? Someone asked how I define "support" and I gave my honest answer. Sheesh.

Nah. Appeasement never works, and I do not back people ACTIVELY TRYING TO REMOVE MY CIVIL RIGHTS. I will not vote for anyone who has vetoed expanding my healthcare. I will not vote for anyone who vetoes my civil rights. Bullshit.

yeah it is plainly straightforwardly true that newsom intends to continue to target trans people, that he is fully aligned with trump and the gop on this. how does increasing the power he wields help anyone like me

I'm not asking you to vote for *Newsom*. I'm asking you to support the proposition that will get rid of 5 GOP House members and help deprive the GOP of power. Something that should be a no-brainer for anyone who cares about the issues you claim to care about. /1

Exactly. Liberals don’t want it to wat. They never do. They just demand we all die quietly to preserve their dying privilege. They’ll obviously lose again this way, but don’t care so long as they can blame their victims.

All hands on deck started decades ago and you're late and supporting the fascists. Get on the right side now motherfucker because I'll attack that dumb shithead and trump and maybe you shouldn't get in the fucking way

Otherwise I'll treat you like any other garden variety bigot shit stain and you'll deserve it like newsome and trump deserves it. Better find another team to play for.

The redistricting scheme is a scam. Leave my state alone, asshole

...is a necessary and critical element to helping those communities. /end

Lawyers will be lead to the countryside

The redistricting scheme is about Newsom winning the primary. That's the only purpose the stunt is meant for.

Performatively demanding that we not support a guy willing to personally slit the vote of any person they meet if it nets him another vote

Shit like this is why we never get nice things

Shit like you are why we never get nice things.

You're not a nazi (per se), just an incurious bootlicker.

Apparently you need to learn what "performative" means

HEY REAL QUICK CHAMP, WHAT TRANS RIGHTS IS GAVIN NEWSOM INTERESTED I PROTECTING? AND WHICH ONES DOES HE WANT TO TAKE AWAY?

JUST LIKE A QUICK ENUMERATION IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND I'M JUST HAVING TROUBLE SQUARING THE STUPID FUCKING THING YOU SAID WITH ACTUAL REALITY

And which has he vetoed? Because he's certainly done THAT!

Explain to me how agreeing with and platforming transphobes protects the rights of marginalized communities. Let's hear it, genius.

"Performative left" yes of course anyone with actual principles is "performative" to unprincipled slime like you. God forbid we ever actually stand for anything, that might actually win some elections unlike the appeasement you're in favor of, you fucking worm.

Throwing trans people under the bus doesn't get the GOP out of office you fucking imbecile

He isn’t fighting. Paying your staff to post AI slop dunking on the easiest target in the world isn’t fighting. We have been used to the Democrats doing as little as possible to fight fascism without openly campaigning for it that you’ll settle for scraps. Demand better. They work for us.

He's taking 5 House seats away from the GOP. Which could well be crucial to flip control of the House. Which is essential to deprive the GOP of power. Which is a necessary step to protect the things you claim to care about. As I said, you don't have to vote for him or even like him. /1

But the notion that he isn't fighting is ludicrous. /end

Paying an intern to post AI memes is not "fighting."

Taking five House seats from the GOP *is* fighting. And nobody else is doing that.

Isn’t this also on the table in Illinois and New York?

Yeah but Pritzker cares about trans people and isn’t sending out homophobic memes about Trump and Putin so they don’t like him.

Did he do that, though, or talk about doing that? Yes, that definitely counts as action, but last I heard it was a proposal, not an accomplishment.

California legislature is voting on it (and will pass it) this week. Then it goes to a public vote in November. If it passes, it will happen.

So it hasn’t happened, and as a result, is not a thing he has done. So, our assertion that he has done nothing to fight is factually true. Stories about what might happen are not facts, they are stories. Your belief that he is going to do things is not evidence.

And if it does happen it will be the LEGISLATURE and the CITIZENRY that made it happen, not fucking Gavin Newsom.

Also Gavin has had unassailable supermajorities across California for YEARS. He's spent most of it vetoing bills on trans rights and universal healthcare. Weird he's doing something NOW.

Yes, because California is this thing called a "democracy" that limits the power of its chief executive to do certain things (like redraw congressional districts) by fiat, therefore Newsom can't just wave a magic wand and make it happen. What he has done is throw the full weight... /1

Is it Ludacris, or do you not agree with it? Those are different things.

...Republicans are kicked out of office everywhere possible, and he's actually doing something concrete and significant to help make that happen. Fight about 2028 later. /end

Capitulating to conservative conspiracy theories and bigotry isn't a solution to conservative. It's capitulation. Appeasement does not work.

Can dems stop throwing trans people to the wolves? I agree, they shouldn't do this, and those that do ought be written off wholesale. Thank you for meeting us on this trying issue.

If we do not address the things that caused Trump, we are doomed to repeat him.

Thanks for being okay with throwing all of us trans people into the meat grinder it's really appreciated

This is the kind of baggage that SHOULD prevent him from being the leader the Democrats need. Let him troll Trump all he wants...I'm all for it. But NO Democrat should be looking at him as the saviour of the party.

I want him to keep trolling trump I do not want him in political office He doesnt represent us

Exactly. He's basically on par with the Lincoln Project in my mind. Good for a laugh, but not a viable option.

Worth noting, he is better than trump But because eating glass is better than acid doesnt mean you do it

Gavin Newsom will not win the 2028 Presidential Election. If all goes well, this will be because he lost the Primary, and a better candidate won the Primary and went on to win the General Election. But if people feel like putting a thumb on the scale and giving him an edge in the primary... 🤷

liberals will love to tell you that this is the better and only option

Newsom is fucking great. I’d follow him into any fight.

He wouldn't piss on you to put out a fire.

Good then youd learn a lesson maybe

We get it, you hate transpeople

lol. I don’t have any thoughts about “trans people” positive or negative. I judge people independently. I do like Newsom a lot based on his policies on the whole, while I don’t agree with all of them. The issue is that some people care only about themselves, they care only about a single issue and..

Anyone with a conscience and an ounce of critical thinking supports trans rights. Its very obvious that you cant separate out rights and support one but not snother. Human rights are human rights. You either support all of them or none of them. And trans people, especially non-white ones, are the

canary in a coal mine on rights generally. Its not an accident they deported and attacked trans people before immigrants, and that specifically target trans immigrants. This is the playbook. They come for minorities and people ignore or justify it, like you are. And then are SHOCKED when

your OWN rights are suddenly curtailed. Do you really think this stops at trans people? If you can't muster empathy to care for others, at the very fucking least care for your own self-interest enough to draw the line here.

….because of their selfishness and intransigence they will choose to sit out an election than to vote for the best candidate on the ballot. To be crystal fucking clear: I blame intransigent selfish fucks for Trumps election. The people who wouldn’t vote for Harris over Gaza are as bad as anti Newsom

coutnerpoint, the intransigent fucks are the useless centrist dems who have already witnessed that 1.) we won't vote for a scumbag and 2.) listening to idiot consultants & catering to moderate republicans repeatedly has not worked and yet still refuse to vote for a more progressive candidate. GTFOH

Is Newsom running this year

We also get that you are pro-genocide. Get a backbone or gtfo

"The Left needs it's own Trump" as in, a dude who will be elevated and celebrated not for the merit of his ideas, commitment to serving the disenfranchised, or even understanding and representing his party's core values, but for his ability to troll and anger the opposition. That always goes well.

Can't stand up to MAGA and Trump if you concede on one of their biggest issues. Conceding to the lesser fascist middle isn't gonna be good enough for the fascists when their guy is doing it more, and is gonna lose you their opposition.

Decades of "Go Left in the Primary, then Pivot Right in the General" that the Dems have done, is history. The last 3 POTUS elections have been "Out-Right the GOP in the Primary, and go Right in the General to pick-up undecided MAGA/Tea-Party voters". The DNC keeps saying they "moved too far Left"🤣.

Newsom cares more about hurting trans and homeless people than he does about standing up to Trump, but if he is the nominee and he loses we are going to be blamed for it

I personally don't think Newsom cares about anything. If hurting trans people and homeless people means money and power, he'll do it. Which arguably makes him a lot less predictable than the devil we know in Trump.

Democrats already blame anyone left of Dick Cheney for everything anyways.

Never understood this. I blame Trump voters for voting for Trump… not people who sat out because they didn’t like the candidates lol

I think it’s crazy that ppl sat out when everything that has happened was literally forecast for them. There weren’t enough Trump voters to get him elected. More ppl sat out than voted for either. This is not the same thing. He actually did multiple things to intentionally hurt 🇺🇸.

I think a pre-coronation is stupid. Particularly 3 years in advance. Far better options between now and then, too. Gavin is not going to be able to memory-hole this timeline. I know I’m not interested in him, at all.

Democrats are better at hiding their stink but they still largely are willing to throw minority groups under the bus for power. It was either a slow march towards fascism with Kamala or the rapid descent. She would have accomplished nothing to hold Trump accountable or slow MAGA.

She did promise to keep using tax money to bomb Palestinian children. And now you’re pretending like that doesn’t matter.

I never said that it didn’t. But 90 million people sat out. There’s a zero percent chance they all cared about the Palestinians. That’s like ppl saying that 300-500K Israeli citizens is a massive protest when it’s not even a protest against the genocide.

60 million sat out in 2016, too. I voted in 2024, and like hundreds of thousands of ppl, my vote was not counted. I got a 🧾 saying it was counted but when I checked on 11/6/24, my state 🗳️ tracker didn’t show it. I simply think you’re oversimplifying what happened.

My state is such a safe electoral victory that it wasn’t even necessary to electronically remove my vote, as it’s gone Republican for the last 45 years. But just based on numbers, there weren’t enough MAGA to elect him, without blatant election fraud. Also, sitting out FKD the 🇺🇸. Intentionally.

She lost Dearborn over her position on Gaza.

I think most people who sat out intentionally did so because “anyone but Trump” isn’t a strong motivating message, especially when 4 years of not-Trump didn’t make the danger go away at all. Republicans winning will always be an existential threat, it can’t be a perpetual excuse to do the minimum.

Maybe it’s because I 👂 his fascist rhetoric in 2015, but I wasn’t ever going to vote for him. I didn’t need to be overly motivated bc I’ve seen and heard that type of stuff before him. I don’t think the DNC leaders understand that they need to be like FDR was. But even he wasn’t perfect.

Energizing your base has always been an important part of politicking and the Democrats seem to have forgotten that, and now they’re blaming everyone else. Biden and the Democrats could have prevented all of this by jailing Trump on Inauguration Day after his failed coup.

It also doesn't matter if you sit out or not, I voted "blue no matter who" all these times and it literally doesn't matter, we got fascism and I still get yelled at for not voting for a Democrat. That's why I'm not going to bother anymore

I’m not giving up on voting yet but it is a bit demoralizing being yelled at by idiots for not doing something I did, when I live in a state that went blue. I did everything I could and contributed to the maximum amount of electoral votes possible.

I'm giving up on national elections until we get an actual candidate I'm focusing instead on local and state in the hopes we can help launch someone with an actual platform to the national stage

But....but he made funny tweet!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I once called Newsom a "Spineless piece of shit politician only interested in photo ops" to his face in the SFO airport. That was a good day.

Thank you for your service, wish I was there to see it haha

Where’s the lie?

I've only had the opportunity to yell that into his answering machine or politely ask the person answering the phone to please tell him to get out of politics & go fuck himself if he's going to throw trans people under the bus. Or if he's interested he could talk to experts instead of Kirk & his ilk

And I didn't even need AI to make this

Dems: "BUT NEWSOM!" Left: "pick someone better" Dems: "BUT IT'LL BE NEWSOM!" Left: "not if we pick someone better" Dems: "BUT NEWSOMS THE BEST WE GOT" Left: "he's not even the top 10." Dems: "YOU LEFTIES ARE JUST AWFUL!"

The funniest part is that I can name candidates who both support LGBT+ issues and could potentially win. Pritzker, Walz, Whitmer if she agreed to run, etc.

A few good shitposts isn't going to cover this. Dude needs to support trans rights or he needs to go home.

No, you should go home and we don’t want you in our coalition.

You don't want trans people in your coalition? Cool, more of the status quo except you're not so unkind as to call us slurs 🙄

Nope, ideological purists can leave the coalition. Like gay marriage in past, Democrats are allowed to have different opinions. For you, your leftist ideology is like religion, and most of us liberals are not into religious or doctrinaire ideology

Your liberalism is a cancer. You are a diet republican.

Nope, socialism and leftism is cancer. You are diet Stalin and Mao. Liberals never had authoritarian government, many leftist governments have been authoritarian that killed and jailed millions of dissidents.

Liberals have run the authoritarian US government quite a few times. Just because they weren't as authoritarian WITHIN the boundaries of the country doesn't mean they weren't authoritarian. You have the political understanding of a 3 year old

And you came with no counter arguments against socialist and commie dictators. Far more than any liberal.

ah yes, the classic 'debate my nazi-sourced strawman or i win' approach

The last authoritarian Democrat had was FDR, a leftist. Who put Japanese Americans into concentration camps.

Are there any rights that affect you that you would be happy to offer up on the negotiating table? Or does that just apply to us queers?

>admitting you have no principles Wow we are so owned.

Only religious freaks lecture people about “morals” and “principles” 😂

Just stay home and cry about “injustice”’ “intersectionality” and other bs. Democrats are better with people like you ostracized from the party and coalition.

Stock photo lookin ass

lol that’s exactly what you said back in 2024, and you lost the popular vote to the stupidest man alive

Lmao keep licking blue boots, little lemming.

I can’t believe this guy that sucks continues to suck. 😭

Why would the guy who took huge campaign donations from PG&E and then protected them from prosecution for almost burning California down do this!?

man what is his actual DEAL, it is so easy not to do this if you aren’t a hateful sack of shit

turns out he's a hateful sack of shit

if only there had been some way to know, beyond everything he’s ever said or done

If I can’t be free I don’t give a fuck about anyone else’s.

Newsome was suggesting that identity politics should not replace economic issues in Democratic messaging.

That is not even remotely it and even if he was, that’s fallacious because he’s absolutely abandoning social policy for no meaningful reason. Just an opportunistic appeal to the right.

Democrats have to revise their priorities if the want to defeat Fascism, which strips everyone’s rights.

going on MAGA podcasts should be disqualifying from office

Truth can only triumph through scrutiny Entering an adversarial arena is the only way to win

You know that's a fictional story, right?

Yes. It's also a visual metaphor I decided to use

Oh it's not a metaphor. It's delusion. You should learn the difference.

Armed with truth, no one should fear going on any platform, MAGA or otherwise. Newsom may have failed the assignment, but at least he's willing to get in the arena with an intellectual opponent Truth can only win under intense scrutiny

HE WENT TO AGREE WITH THEM AND PRAISE THEM. Jesus you people are dull.

I agree he failed the assigment Clearly he's not the champion that's needed But someone needs to step up and be unafraid to go onto MAGA podcasts/platforms and win the debate. No more excuses - either win definitively, or take the L

Unlike establishment Dems, MAGA aren't stupid in their messaging. They control who they allow on, if you're on, either they can easily defeat you or you agree with them. Look at the way Crowder runs scared from Sam Sedar.

Kamala going on Rogan would have changed the game. That was a missed opportunity

No, no they don’t. You sound like the ppl at Jubilee. Not a single person who is MAGA-which is not that many tbh-is reachable. Not one. He also had 2 MAGA boys and another YT supremacist from 🇬🇧 on back to back to back podcast sessions.

He wasn't trying to reach them! He was AGREEING WITH THEM COMPLETELY!

i'm gonna need some aloe for that burn

going on there and agreeing with everything to throw trans people under the bus just makes someone a little bitch

Guys, I'm starting to worry that this Gavin Newsom guy is kind of an asshole...

I fear he's America's Starmer.

is currently setting a fine example for other Dems

Did he say something crazy like "men are not women"

WE DON’T WANT APPEASEMENT!! WE DEMAND CHAMPIONS!! 🥊

"The WHOLE pronoun thing?" Sounds like a pretty tall order... 🙄

Had zero path to potus in 28 until he started baiting Trump and no other governor went as hard. He’s Clinton/Obama 2.1 Neoliberal Frat Boy and has gone from worthless Cali liberal to D28 front runner in a summer. If his redistricting takes the house back, he’ll be the DNC golden boy.

What is wrong with this guy??