yeah the jealously pouring off the critiques of 50501 is palpable bsky.app/profile/jake...
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as a materialist you cannot actually use Biden's Gaza policy as a reason to disengage from electoral politics when it's convenient when the guy's not even in office anymore
apr 12, 2025, 1:44 am • 586 19 • view
Yeah I SO do not understand this stance, Abbot.
apr 12, 2025, 5:14 pm • 0 0 • view
"as a materialist" bro you don't even know what you're talking about. Someone who believes in a material basis of history or philosophy is not a robot, they're a person capable of disgust with a system that forces them to choose "genocide" on one hand or "genocide" on another
apr 12, 2025, 5:16 pm • 3 0 • view
you're just a calvinist without jesus
apr 12, 2025, 1:44 am • 541 21 • view
You're the one obsessed with punishment of the wicked no matter how many innocents get hurt so actually I'd charge that if anyone is a calvinist here, it's you.
apr 12, 2025, 5:17 pm • 5 0 • view
right lmao they got what they wanted! Harris lost! Democrats were punished for genocide. and now we're all fucking hosed because it turns out you can't change the country entirely through 'organizing' but you can do it with control of the federal government bsky.app/profile/azer...
apr 12, 2025, 1:48 am • 718 59 • view
man I wish it were the case that Democrats were punished for genocide. Instead I think they were punished mostly for burrito taxi expensive
apr 12, 2025, 1:55 am • 42 2 • view
I think they got punished for the state of this country (runaway propaganda networks driving misinfo to low-attention voters, a scleric political process being unable to truly make things better, etc.) But that's been an ongoing process for decades, hard to assign blame...
apr 12, 2025, 4:31 am • 0 0 • view
The average American does not really care for foreign policy but the average dem voter does so bit of both tbh
apr 12, 2025, 1:56 am • 33 0 • view
what's your angle here?
apr 12, 2025, 12:52 pm • 4 0 • view
I can absolutely understand people’s anger about Palestine, the US’s role in facilitating the genocide, and the way few in power were taking it seriously. Unfortunately losing power to a madman fascist kept the genocide but removed anything good the federal government did
apr 12, 2025, 1:55 am • 46 3 • view
That's not the voters fault, that's the Democrats fault for not listening to the voters. We can never be mad enough at Harris and the Dems.
apr 12, 2025, 2:52 pm • 13 0 • view
I thought we wanted Harris to stop being a genocider and care about us. Or is the idea of a Democrat not being a genocider just unfathomable to you?
apr 12, 2025, 11:26 pm • 2 0 • view
That's not what we wanted, you don't sound like a leftist at all
apr 12, 2025, 4:17 pm • 2 0 • view
I'm genuinely loving this for them. At the end of the day, they know what they did to their own cause. Now I'm going to sit back and watch them get detained, disappeared, and deported. Like Miss Celie said, "The jail you planned for me is the one you're going to rot in."
apr 12, 2025, 1:11 pm • 2 0 • view
Yeah, I voted in this election, but taking glee in having people who didn't vote being deported, etc DOES kind of make you a piece of shit. Like, I'm upset about the election turn out too, but wishing fascism on people makes you kind of a fucking fascist.
apr 14, 2025, 7:18 am • 1 0 • view
I don’t care. People being deported were put in harm’s way by members of their own community chasing white adjacency. Maybe those people will vote differently in the future. Or maybe not. It’s not on me.
apr 14, 2025, 10:55 am • 0 0 • view
So poc of trans people should be sent to concentration camps because they voted differently than you? Damn. It doesn't take very much for you to go full blown fascist. If you want to sign up for the GOP, just fucking say so.
apr 14, 2025, 8:32 pm • 0 0 • view
This has nothing to do with trans people. That's a strawman. This is about how white adjacent POC chose to vote in ways that put members of their own community at risk. 50 percent of Latinos voted to hand members of their own community who couldn't vote over to fascists.
apr 14, 2025, 8:37 pm • 0 0 • view
I UNDERSTAND THAT. And I SHARE YOUR FRUSTRATION and I am angry about it too. That doesn't make ALIGNING YOURSELF WITH FASCIST IDEAS LIKE DEPORTING PEOPLE magically fucking okay. Do you seriously not understand how gross that is? How thinking that doesn't make you any better than shitty republicans?
apr 14, 2025, 8:41 pm • 0 0 • view
So you're a Nazi?
apr 12, 2025, 2:40 pm • 17 0 • view
If that's how you define it.
apr 12, 2025, 3:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah, you seem to be eager for the Gestapo to commit Nazi acts. A pretty basic hurdle to clear towards not being called a Nazi, is to not support Nazi deportations.
apr 12, 2025, 3:10 pm • 16 0 • view
I don't give a single fuck about any of these people. You can call me a Nazi all day every day and all it does is make me enjoy this more.
apr 12, 2025, 3:15 pm • 0 0 • view
You're a Nazi. Live with it.
apr 12, 2025, 3:26 pm • 5 0 • view
I'm fine with it. It's not like words mean anything with you people. Do we know when Khalil is getting deported? Do we have a date?
apr 12, 2025, 3:29 pm • 0 0 • view
@merovingians.bsky.social if I were you, having this blood-drunk sicko agreeing with me would give me pause for thought
apr 12, 2025, 3:28 pm • 7 0 • view
Good Lord, what is this? Nextdoor?
apr 12, 2025, 3:31 pm • 0 0 • view
Spoken like a Nazi
apr 12, 2025, 3:15 pm • 13 0 • view
LOL! You people can't help yourselves.
apr 12, 2025, 3:19 pm • 0 0 • view
You fascist piece of filth.
apr 12, 2025, 3:01 pm • 8 0 • view
pretty damning the way "organizing" doesn't have wielding power as a goal. also they can't even organize lol, DSA can't balance a budget of course they don't move the democrats
apr 12, 2025, 11:50 am • 5 0 • view
Bernie fumbled 2020 and in response these people invented a massive conspiracy and refused to learn a single thing about the electorate. accelerationist libs were fucking paying attention
apr 12, 2025, 1:50 am • 576 25 • view
he just fumbled like a loser
apr 12, 2025, 12:52 pm • 0 0 • view
The thing is, if Bernie had won in 2020 they would’ve hated him because he would have actually had to do things. And inevitably those things wouldn’t have been good enough for them. Theory is clean and easy to support but putting things into practice is messy.
apr 12, 2025, 2:52 am • 37 1 • view
If this was a year ago, I think I would wholeheartedly agree, but since the election I have seen comments and statements from Bernie that if any Democrat had said would get them absolutely shredded by the political left. I still generally like him, but he has lost a bit of his luster to me.
apr 12, 2025, 5:15 am • 7 0 • view
A similar thing is happening to AOC as she attempts to achieve things
apr 12, 2025, 4:39 am • 17 0 • view
“They.” “Them.” Plus you’re making up hypothetical situations to get mad at.
apr 12, 2025, 3:34 pm • 6 0 • view
let's be fair, Bernie didn't fumble he was merc'd. but he went with it as usual.
apr 14, 2025, 10:49 pm • 0 0 • view
none of you gave a solitary shit about the fully predictable harm of a second Trump administration until when people warned you. it's just infantile politics.
apr 12, 2025, 1:52 am • 630 38 • view
I love your broad sweeping statements… the you of 20yrs ago into Situationism was far more interesting. Smoked a little meth in grad school and read some of the edgier English philosophers (you don’t have a second language do ya kid). What actual real world organising have you done? Seriously.
apr 13, 2025, 12:52 am • 0 0 • view
you refused to be guilted and now you are like 'god liberals are such heartless monsters' shut the fuck up
apr 12, 2025, 1:54 am • 585 33 • view
Seriously… what real world, actually interacting with other human beings work have you done to further any political cause. Your thread sure makes it seem like it’s simple, we’re just some dumb fucks who haven’t figured it out…
apr 13, 2025, 12:56 am • 3 0 • view
A lot of this is best resolved by assuming the people in question think they have a God-given right to be the protagonists of any resistance activity, and if they aren't, it can't be 'true' resistance
apr 12, 2025, 1:55 am • 258 15 • view
This is what happens when you have Leninists so deracinated from their Leninism that they don't formally believe in a vanguard party, but automatically assume they are the vanguard as a matter of course It's the same thing evangelicals do with the Bible, probably because it's the same demographic
apr 12, 2025, 1:57 am • 190 11 • view
"I believe I am of the elect!" while manifestly failing to follow any of the practical tenets of the faith in question required to be so "I am the vanguard of the revolution!" while manifestly failing to engage in effectual revolutionary activity and pushing away possible allies
apr 12, 2025, 2:01 am • 170 16 • view
These are a lot of young people, raised in evangelical culture if not thought, who have rebelled against their parents without fully disentangling from the basic foundations of that movement Like New Atheists before them
apr 12, 2025, 4:49 am • 11 0 • view
And on top of that, you have leftist organizers and thinkers that have been in the fight for years, have honest critiques and actual strategies that may or may not involve electoral politics, but see this pointed out and think you're talking about them when no, it's the newbies
apr 12, 2025, 4:49 am • 6 0 • view
still staring at this one because goddamn you nailed it
apr 12, 2025, 2:01 am • 41 0 • view
I can't take credit for the whole package of insights, but, yeah, it really does seem to be what's going on sometimes Found Lenin/found Jesus crossover, complete with the bare-minimum exposure to the foundational texts
apr 12, 2025, 2:03 am • 37 2 • view
Every opposition is CIA-backed and fake except for ours
apr 12, 2025, 2:05 am • 26 1 • view
what's happening is the chilling impact of viciously anti-Palestinian policy *domestically* which was a result/risk of Trump's re-election absolutely no one in the scene seemed to consider in terms of their positioning even though it was telegraphed as much as the tariffs bsky.app/profile/rand...
apr 12, 2025, 6:57 am • 245 14 • view
people saying it would be more productive organizing under Trump - not when you're running for your lives you idiots
apr 12, 2025, 6:58 am • 233 16 • view
maybe it would be if we got Trump I again but it was blatantly clear this was going to be Trump without any restraint and an administration as brain-poisoned and evil as he is
apr 12, 2025, 6:59 am • 189 7 • view
like at the end of the day fuck joe biden to hell for making it genuinely hard to *make* a harm reduction case for an ongoing genocide but he doesn't matter anymore
apr 12, 2025, 7:01 am • 155 7 • view
Damn that's crazy, maybe Harris should have promised to stop supporting the genocide so that she could win instead of lose.
apr 12, 2025, 10:00 pm • 3 0 • view
didn’t at least some of the activists admit that they didn’t protest Trump because doing so would have put them personally in real danger? People were thrilled when they could make the case for the “rational, single-issue Gaza voter,” but they’re back to genocide=genocide because what’s left?
apr 12, 2025, 5:19 pm • 1 0 • view
Biden was doing the viciously anti-Palestinian, anti-Muslim policy *domestically*. He was constantly calling anti-genocide protesters "anti-semitic". Biden built the house, Trump is just living in it.
apr 12, 2025, 10:00 pm • 5 0 • view
Was he kidnapping and deporting protestors, you fucking moron?
apr 14, 2025, 2:58 am • 0 0 • view
He was doing other things which were also unacceptable. It's funny how you people always place your red line precisely between what the Ds are doing and what the Rs are doing, post facto.
apr 14, 2025, 3:58 am • 1 0 • view
You refused to be guilted about genocide and now you're like "god I can't believe these leftists thought brown non-Americans are human beings"
apr 12, 2025, 9:58 pm • 6 0 • view
Before we can defeat our enemies we must first defeat our allies!
apr 12, 2025, 11:38 am • 16 0 • view
Genociders are not my allies
apr 12, 2025, 11:43 pm • 4 0 • view
This is your core value, offering token resistance in the form of platitudes while pretending the rest of us lack object permanence.
apr 13, 2025, 2:08 am • 1 0 • view
We warned you that supporting genocide would lead to this and you decided that killing another 10,000 children was a good idea.
apr 12, 2025, 9:57 pm • 5 0 • view
This is the thing to me. Whatever you say about 2020 (and even 2016), the fact is that Bernie was trying to win over a populace and infrastructure that was initially against him and failed. You have to win! You can't just convince yourself of your correctness, you gotta turn that into Ws
apr 12, 2025, 4:23 am • 25 1 • view
At the end of the day you can either enact policy with the mandate of the majority or over it. Doing it the former way usually requires compromises and deals that make you feel bad. But it tends to be better than doing it the latter way.
apr 12, 2025, 4:25 am • 17 1 • view
Not when it comes to capitulating to a fascist dictator. Which is what all this dem budding up has brought to us. They showed us they only care about money and power, and now as a result we are all fucked.
apr 13, 2025, 2:30 pm • 0 0 • view
"You have to win! You can't just convince yourself of your correctness, you gotta turn that into Ws" the entire thread from the OP is doing exactly this. did they win? did their "pragmatism" and GOP-courting produce a W?
apr 12, 2025, 3:50 pm • 4 0 • view
You're a complete dumb fuck if you believe this revisionist bullshit
apr 12, 2025, 3:54 pm • 4 0 • view
People who said they support Bernie because of Medicare for All but didn't care if Trump won and the ACA got repealed or Medicaid got cut are an extremely common type and utterly baffling.
apr 12, 2025, 1:20 pm • 4 0 • view
My guess is that they used M4A as some gold standard Democrats could never live up to. I genuinely think a lot of them support Bernie bc he gives them an excuse for the bigotry of their family members. They ride nowhere near as hard for Walz or AOC as they do Bernie, and I think that’s the reason.
apr 12, 2025, 2:52 pm • 4 0 • view
The notion that there are a huge electorate of untapped and unactivated socialists just waiting for that special candidate out there is another infuriating thing. Like, there isn't a Trotskyite in Allentown Pennsylvania just waiting for that leftist candidate.
apr 12, 2025, 2:11 am • 65 5 • view
I hope I helped disabuse a lefty friend of mine by pointing out that my trailer park's signage was 5 to 1 in favor of Trump over Harris and asking what these people understood that I, a Harris voter, did not
apr 12, 2025, 3:09 am • 23 1 • view
You have to make it stark and put them in the untenable position of defending Trump voters. It's interesting to see who is willing to do it and who won't
apr 12, 2025, 3:15 am • 23 2 • view
I think a lot of them have conservative family members and don’t want to admit that they voted for Trump bc they love his bigotry. So they invent some grievance politics that proposes that their family members are desperate enough to tear it all down, rather than putting bigotry over class interest.
apr 12, 2025, 2:47 pm • 2 0 • view
yeah like the idea that a blue collar white guy in rural PA or WI is just waiting for a conversation with a guy from the internet to realize he's really a communist shouldn't have survived contact with 2020--not with the dem primary results nor with the general election results
apr 12, 2025, 2:24 am • 39 2 • view
It was amazing to see so many Bernie supporters convince themselves that Warren, Klobuchar, and Buttigieg dastardly took out poor old Bernie and ignoring that when it came down to just two men, voters clearly preferred Biden
apr 12, 2025, 4:38 am • 21 1 • view
at least the narodniki had the excuse that they didn't have the example of to learn from
apr 12, 2025, 8:10 am • 0 0 • view
there is apparently not a polite Trump-hating Republican just waiting for the most compromising Dem to come along either
apr 12, 2025, 3:42 pm • 5 0 • view
Bernie crushed Clinton in the 2016 primary with working class & rural white male voters. Biden crushed Bernie in 2020 with working class and rural white male voters. There's a common theme there but it's not supporting the liquidation of the Kulaks.
apr 12, 2025, 2:41 am • 29 3 • view
Bernie won Nevada, which is in many ways a bellwether state for Democrats. A great indicator of how strong a Democrat can ne nationwide. The DNC decided to declare South Carolina the deciding state, and the rest was history.
apr 12, 2025, 4:27 pm • 3 0 • view
apr 13, 2025, 7:12 am • 0 0 • view
But of course you didn’t change it when in power (quite the opposite - you lurched further right, and let the GOP minority dictate what you would even attempt), and you blame everyone but yourselves for your failures. Useless, spoiled, privileged toddlers blaming their imaginary friend. Fuck off.
apr 12, 2025, 2:48 pm • 11 1 • view
Ok but this is a problem yes? That when your politics are “normal capitalist evil versus literal Red Skull evil” there is effectively no way electorally to signal disstatisfaction with (1) without empowering (2), and right now there’s no sense that anyone has input into the direction of the dems
apr 12, 2025, 3:07 am • 12 0 • view
Yeah there is. In the words of a famous Tweet, You [redacted] a Walmart.
apr 12, 2025, 4:35 am • 2 0 • view
It's time to see if the left has the courage of their convictions, or if they've been faking it this whole time like we accused them of doing.
apr 12, 2025, 4:39 am • 0 0 • view
yeah, it's a problem
apr 12, 2025, 7:29 am • 2 0 • view
There are non presidential races. They can go to a march. I knkw that's all a bit weak sauce but so is the argument that you just can't vote against Hitler bc his opponent is merely 55% ok.
apr 12, 2025, 3:09 am • 7 0 • view
That’s not the point, the point is that once one major party is Literally Hitler pretty much all intraparty leverage evaporates because the consequences of losing are so dire!
apr 12, 2025, 3:13 am • 9 0 • view
Like if you had idk a CSU like Republican Party and not voting for the Dems meant there was a reasonable chance CSU won, ok that would suck but there’s a reasonable tradeoff of upside risk versus internal leverage and pols can make intelligent decisions about the cost of alienating XYZ side.
apr 12, 2025, 3:16 am • 6 0 • view
It’d be more like knowing one candidate said “I will disappear your neighbors based on skin color, take away your rights, and make your food poison, and I promise I might stop a war” And another said “I promise I might stop a war, otherwise do some good things” And 🤞 the disappearings won’t happen
apr 12, 2025, 10:50 am • 0 0 • view
Like, your framing presented it as “genocide will probably continue regardless so fuck everyone” but the ‘everyone’ included not just Palestinians; there’s also the local—the neighbor, the family, the coworker, the friend, the stranger getting fucked and/or killed now.
apr 12, 2025, 10:53 am • 0 0 • view
And no it’s not a “only care if it impacts me,” because obvi it’s not. It’s a “this will impact an entire people” vs a “this will impact an entire people plus many, many more people.” Sensibly, protecting as many as possible should win out.
apr 12, 2025, 10:55 am • 0 0 • view
And without this you need a sense of actual buy-into the party’s outlook, which the Dems don’t do well because they’ve let the kind of ordinary orgs connecting party to base wither and get Consultanted
apr 12, 2025, 3:23 am • 3 0 • view
In any case i think basically everyone in this fight badly miscalculated how salient I/P actually is politically and how much leverage the pro-Palestinian half of the party had.
apr 12, 2025, 3:20 am • 3 0 • view
My spicier take is the Dems should be more like DSA in a like organizational sense, like you should be able to join and get a email for “vote if you want the dem platform to have THIS resolution” or “join THIS project” or “vote for these candidates who have xyz things they will ask of electeds”
apr 12, 2025, 3:11 am • 16 0 • view
this would literally be illegal in the united states. party organizations can’t direct the voting of elected officials, can’t control who’s on their ballot, and can’t remove people from the party.
apr 12, 2025, 5:09 am • 10 0 • view
good in theory but how do you prevent fascists from joining and subverting the process
apr 12, 2025, 4:13 am • 1 0 • view
they are viscerally unpleasant and uncaring people who can't pretend to be normal or compassionate, this whole thing is them doing the reverse cultural revolution because they can't say slurs and grope the secretary without suffering social consequences
apr 12, 2025, 7:28 am • 4 0 • view
They’re joining/taking over the republicans instead
apr 12, 2025, 4:14 am • 4 0 • view
Sounds like a great thing that someone should help bring to fruition with actions.
apr 12, 2025, 10:44 am • 0 0 • view
They do send out those things. I get emails and surveys. JFC
apr 12, 2025, 4:06 pm • 1 0 • view
Oh, I'm writing this one down.
apr 12, 2025, 2:52 pm • 0 0 • view
apr 12, 2025, 4:28 am • 1 0 • view
Actually named after John Calvin.
apr 12, 2025, 4:36 am • 1 0 • view
I said it before and I'll say it again, these people have no clue what a materialist reading is, or what praxis is supposed to be, for them the call to "read theory" is used in the same vein as Evangelicals telling you to read the Good Book. The sparknotes of Das Kapital puts you above these people
apr 12, 2025, 2:32 am • 19 2 • view
I'm seeing someone I've been very fond of for at least a decade do this and it's painful. It's like it's more important to her to punish Democrats than -- well, just about anything, seemingly. I don't get who it helps to do this.
apr 12, 2025, 4:15 am • 16 1 • view
If she has conservative family members, I’d reckon she wants to shift blame to Democrats bc acknowledging that her family members are bigots is a stove she just does not want to touch.
apr 12, 2025, 2:45 pm • 2 0 • view
No, it's not that at all. It's all about punishing Biden and Dems for Gaza.
apr 13, 2025, 7:25 pm • 1 0 • view
Also, where the hell are the building occupations now that the war on Gaza has restarted? We were told for over a year "libs will only care about Palestinians if Trump is in office blah blah blah," and now that Trump is in office, the accelerationists go into hiding.
apr 12, 2025, 4:08 am • 76 11 • view
no they claim they voted for De La Cruz the “much better candidate” whose party said North Korea is good actually 😬😑
apr 12, 2025, 1:58 pm • 8 0 • view
www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/n...
apr 12, 2025, 2:41 pm • 17 1 • view
So, we got a low-key protest from a couple weeks back so far. That's *something*. Still much tamer than last year for some reason.
apr 12, 2025, 3:18 pm • 12 1 • view
republicans represent the grerdy poerverts, Thats their job. democrats job was to represent democracy, instead they spoend all their time with their heads uo the ass of greedy poerverts. Thats not their job
apr 12, 2025, 5:07 pm • 1 0 • view
People are also scared of deportation and racist mobs/cop beatings with no legal protection You've cheered this fascist police state escalation for years and now want to talk shit?
apr 12, 2025, 4:35 pm • 10 0 • view
but i thought both were the same 🤔
apr 12, 2025, 4:47 pm • 5 1 • view
Things went from bad to worse and human trash are complaining that the people actually putting their skin on the line aren't bleeding enough
apr 12, 2025, 4:51 pm • 5 0 • view
i mean didn’t you all wanted to “teach the dems a lesson” by not voting even though Harris was pushing for a ceasefire
apr 12, 2025, 4:51 pm • 4 1 • view
Liar
apr 12, 2025, 4:53 pm • 1 0 • view
whatever makes you cope
apr 12, 2025, 4:55 pm • 3 0 • view
So all it took was some state intimidation and the movement crumbled? Doesn’t sound like a very committed group of people.
apr 12, 2025, 4:50 pm • 6 1 • view
"All it took" was labeling people as terrorists for expressing their first amendment rights? "All it took" was people being abducted off the street and sent to a foreign prison without trial?
apr 12, 2025, 4:56 pm • 4 0 • view
who put those people in
apr 12, 2025, 5:12 pm • 1 1 • view
Yeah, all it took. I’m certainly glad MLK didn’t fold the minute the cops got violent.
apr 12, 2025, 5:12 pm • 3 1 • view
I mean, yeah- all it took. "You survived four years of Trump," right? Right? www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Pike...
apr 12, 2025, 5:17 pm • 3 1 • view
Hey! I remember that asshole! FUCK SAMI HAMDI FOREVER.
apr 14, 2025, 3:00 am • 0 0 • view
It clearly hasn't crumbled, you fascist prick, but intimidation cools peaceful protest and always has When it turns to less than peaceful protest, I'm just POSITIVE you will be cheering the action
apr 12, 2025, 4:53 pm • 5 0 • view
What a ridiculous person you are.
apr 12, 2025, 5:11 pm • 4 0 • view
I thought we had a fascist police state last year? Why are the demonstrations so much tamer now (when they actually do take place)? Did something change?
apr 12, 2025, 4:49 pm • 8 1 • view
Yes. thats why Trump has had such an easy time. They were left ready for him to unleash
apr 13, 2025, 8:43 am • 0 0 • view
If the left were that influential, really dumb of you to ignore them
apr 13, 2025, 9:01 am • 1 0 • view
The point was to pressure the Democrats to stop supporting genocide, under the theory that they MIGHT listen. We are under no illusion that the Republicans will listen, so what would the point be?
apr 12, 2025, 9:49 pm • 4 0 • view
So you understood that there was never any chance of your cause having any success under a Republican administration? Sounds like it was imperative that they lose!
apr 12, 2025, 10:01 pm • 9 0 • view
It apparently also had no chance under a Democratic administration, either. Do you want to win again or not? If yes, the Democrats must become an anti-genocide party. If no, continue blaming those of us who oppose genocide. It's up to you.
apr 12, 2025, 10:04 pm • 5 0 • view
The same thing happened when Trump increased drone strikes 500% over Obama no one cared about what was the most important thing in the world in 2016
apr 12, 2025, 4:40 pm • 14 3 • view
That restarted again!
apr 13, 2025, 12:23 am • 0 0 • view
My conclusion since the election is that all of those people are right wingers at heart, like most Americans - they really wanted Trump to win, but they couldn't say that out loud
apr 12, 2025, 12:00 pm • 9 0 • view
Idk if they’re conservatives, but I think many were raised conservative and consequently hate the Democratic Party by default. Many of them also don’t want to admit Trump is worse bc it means that their family members don’t give a fuck about the causes these leftists care about.
apr 12, 2025, 2:40 pm • 6 0 • view
Trump is worse, but that doesn't mean progressives and leftists were suddenly going to be okay with voting for the other pro-genocide candidate. If the Democrats want to win, they have to stop supporting genocide. The debate is over. Accept this fact or continue to lose.
apr 12, 2025, 9:54 pm • 1 0 • view
…They literally won last time while remaining an ally of Israel, so this argument doesn’t hold up.
apr 12, 2025, 11:37 pm • 0 0 • view
When?
apr 13, 2025, 12:20 am • 0 0 • view
We literally armed Israel during the Yom Kippur War.
apr 13, 2025, 12:29 am • 1 0 • view
Leftists have been outspoken about Palestine for decades, but can you think of something that might have been going on recently that dramatically escalated the level of the crisis?
apr 13, 2025, 1:17 am • 0 0 • view
You’re moving the goalposts. No shit, I know what’s happened recently, but I’ve seen leftists say it was a genocide a good decade before October 7th. You have genuinely no idea what a genocide looks like.
apr 13, 2025, 4:24 am • 0 0 • view
An extremely stupid conclusion
apr 12, 2025, 2:45 pm • 8 0 • view
And I'm right
apr 12, 2025, 5:25 pm • 1 0 • view
You need to be right so you can pretend your genocide is acceptable.
apr 12, 2025, 11:39 pm • 1 0 • view
They are making people up to get mad at because they feel impotent to make change, and the only people who seem to be doing anything are the leftists they’ve radicalized themselves against. A small and angry faction. The actual Democratic party loyalists are pissed at the party.
apr 12, 2025, 9:27 pm • 4 0 • view
It's just next level vile to call people who were beaten, harassed and arrested for protesting a Holocaust, Trump supporters. It's disingenuous and disgusting but it's about the moral level of the average liberal so I'm not surprised.
apr 13, 2025, 8:00 am • 3 0 • view
Your brain is made of cheese
apr 12, 2025, 3:01 pm • 5 0 • view
You can just support MAGA outright man, nobody's stopping you
apr 12, 2025, 5:24 pm • 2 0 • view
We didn't want your genocider, we don't want the other for the same reason
apr 12, 2025, 11:38 pm • 0 0 • view
accelerationists have always been a very small minority, but useful to the Russian campaign to elect Trump so their on-line messaging got big time boosted to give the impression of size, which in turn encouraged IRL actions which then got over covered etc, now Russia has pulled the megaphone away.
apr 12, 2025, 7:55 pm • 2 1 • view
have you checked in on how none of the Democratic party has decided to be vocal about Gaza now? they were never going to be. You're a fool
apr 12, 2025, 3:54 pm • 6 0 • view
Israeli strike destroys part of last fully functioning hospital in Gaza City -patients forced to flee (USA gave billions to Israel who has free college education/ National healthcare; Palestinians happy they voted for Trump -wants to clear Gaza & build vacation spots?) www.cnn.com/2025/04/13/w...
apr 13, 2025, 1:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Being against supporting a genocide is really easy, actually. Sorry it wasn't a moral line you were unwilling to cross.
apr 12, 2025, 3:20 pm • 13 1 • view
demanding action is literally engaging with electoral politics even if you don't like the way people do it
apr 12, 2025, 9:18 pm • 6 0 • view
This thread mostly convinces me that there is a strain of Democrats who are fucking rocketing into fascisms. The “enjoy the camps” crowd scares me as much as MAGA.
apr 12, 2025, 9:24 pm • 6 0 • view
x.com/AnasAlSharif... preparing a report on the evacuation of the Baptist Hospital, Israeli warplanes targeted it, and the moment of the bombing was documented, resulting in the destruction of a number of its buildings, despite it being the only hospital operating in Gaza with limited capabilities.
apr 13, 2025, 4:13 am • 1 0 • view
They're just jealous that the libs can organize a massive nationawide protest in two weeks while they've been circle jerking to the idea of an ML revolution for years and still hasn't even achieved a broken Starbucks window.
apr 12, 2025, 4:32 am • 12 0 • view
so the protests successfully took back power then, right?
apr 12, 2025, 8:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Dude honestly. Like just go to the big group of people you've been hoping to mobilize and talk to them maybe some of them wanna join your thing
apr 12, 2025, 2:10 am • 23 1 • view
"If I have to convince you, I don't want you" seems to be a common stance
apr 12, 2025, 2:23 am • 25 0 • view
Meanwhile, the fascists took over mainstream media, social media, the government, and spent decades hard at work with think tanks and radicalizing the normies because they knew it was important to convince people.
apr 12, 2025, 2:31 am • 21 3 • view
I don't think the rightwing *invented* leftist purity as a psyop but there's like a 95% chance they exacerbated it as one
apr 12, 2025, 2:37 am • 23 3 • view
I mean fair
apr 12, 2025, 2:38 am • 4 0 • view
I'm sure they're absolutely giddy that the left these days talks about how having power and talking to people is for cringe wine moms or something
apr 12, 2025, 5:53 pm • 1 0 • view
I think they see it as a cool exclusive social club of Better People that they're in, and they would be disgusted by the thought of inviting anyone else lol It's like a super exclusive ego-massaging fraternity to them
apr 12, 2025, 5:54 pm • 1 0 • view
Right. Like, how can you gatekeep The Movement if you're... not really the ones moving anyone? The movement is happening without them and their input because they're off putting and uninterested in doing the work of taking their message to the people.
apr 12, 2025, 5:57 pm • 1 2 • view
Are you ready? generalstrikeus.com
apr 12, 2025, 12:29 pm • 0 0 • view
jealousy is a strange way to put it man
apr 12, 2025, 9:17 am • 2 0 • view
It's 100% jealousy - anyone who really cares about making change happen won't make fun of the mass demonstrations for something they Might do in the future, they would just go out there and help make sure they last
apr 12, 2025, 5:55 pm • 3 1 • view
I saw a prominent one say, “Yglesias is dumb and he only has influence because he flatters the priors of elites in power,” and all I could think was, “so you’re mad that your arguments aren’t persuasive to those elites?”
apr 12, 2025, 2:36 pm • 2 1 • view