Don’t for one second, not one millisecond, say babies drowning in Texas is justified because of their parent’s vote. Jesus Christ. Be better.
Don’t for one second, not one millisecond, say babies drowning in Texas is justified because of their parent’s vote. Jesus Christ. Be better.
Kids. Don’t. Vote.
Too bad they don't.
Yes, yes! But am thinking this tragedy deserves an investigation -- not swept under the rug for political reasons.
So we’ll go with just the adults get to die, or at least the ones that voted for it.
But their parents do. And if they voted Republican they are getting what they voted for.
So their parents vote makes it ok if their kids die? Are you ok?
No one said that, asshole. If the negligent parents decided to vote for the policies that resulted in their children dying maybe they will wake up. If not,their kids and families will keep dying at the hands of the traitors they voted for.🤷🏼♀️
No, but it does make it inevitable.
Which is not what anyone is debating or arguing about in these replies...
Nor is anybody actually saying the KIDS deserved it.
Nobody said it was ok.
when parents vote, they make choices about themselves, their kids and other people's lives. nobody deserves to be a victim to such a preventable disaster. but people need to understand that the political elite, regardless of label, exists to milk them and profit while doing - politics is no longer
about the public good. technically, tragedies like this one should shake voters and have them demand more from their political reps. so far this has not worked because there has been no good will. what you see is not cruelty towards the families, but attention towards the cruelty of the political
elite, which helps cause these disasters, and does not at all focus on preventing them. many politicians make a good buck after every hurricane in FL - on the back of people who lose their homes and have to deal with higher insurance rates. Nothing changed after Sandy Hook.
Nothing changed after Uvalde. Unless people change something in drawing attention to the absurdity of this, no change will continue to be the norm.
I like your paragraphs, but Texas isn't homogeneous. It's a diaspora captured by a white supremacist power structure. The area this happened in is purple, and the people that live there aren't the ones who voted for this shit. Platitudes and your philosophy are useless in the face of messy reality.
Then the minority needs to rise up and literally destroy the hateful, deceitful right wing traitors running your state or continue to be the victims if it. The revolution is now.
Sure, just as soon as the people in power stop having a militarized police force, tanks, drones, and bombs. You first, actually.
That area has voted Republican since 2020
Yes this looks like it isn't at all gerrymandered and completely doesn't spread out urban votes far into the wind. Does context matter to you? Or are you too full of righteous indignation over people caring about dead kids or whatever?
i see. thoughts and prayers, then.
In the face of overwhelming and unrelenting force, that's kinda all we got
I find this article to be crucial to understand what's going on in Texas. www.propublica.org/article/tim-...
Yes that's a really good one, thank you!
Parents choose all the time not to vaccinate their children who then die from preventable diseases. It’s tragic, but those are the consequences of stupidity. No, the kids don’t deserve it. They never do. But it’s happening all over.
Yes. But no one should be saying the kids deserve to die, which is what these posts are about.
No one is saying that, moron. We are saying Texas is a bright red Republican state that voted for the bullshit that got these kids killed. Now they get to reap the hell they voted for.
jfc. eat shit.
JFC You’re a weak simp.
suck my left one.
Are you 12?
Kids don't vote. Do the kids deserve it?
They are,but that doesn't justify the deaths of children, and it's REALLY important that we not gloat or minimize the tragedy to the children while pointing out that it's their parents' fault for voting for it. If we lose our empathy for innocent kids we become the same evil that their parents are…
False narrative. No one said it’s “justified” and no one is “gloating”. But it is important to point out that bright red Texas votes for cruel, short-sighted and deceitful Republican policies and they are getting exactly what they voted for.🤷🏼♀️
I've seen it, it's not a false narrative… Don't say things aren't happening just because you haven't seen them. That's another thing Republicans do…
Nah. Just your false narrative talking. “Don’t say things are happening just because” you think they are. “Thats another thing Republicans do.”
R at local and state levels blocked warning upgrades in this exact TX location
It’s also important to point out the gerrymandering that takes places in communities that dilutes a popular vote.
Sorry, but I've seen gloating.
Nah. You’ve just misinterpreted the words of others.
My reading comprehension was deemed above college level in high school. Patronizing and gaslighting.
Doubtful and your post just confirms my suspicions.🤷🏼♀️
Just pointing out the facts. FACT: Republicans fucked around and are now finding out.🤷🏼♀️
Alright. Brb.
And gloating about this is outrageously vile. But calling out the policies of the Republican governor, state legislature, Congressional leaders and president, all of whom contributed to this catastrophe, is not gloating, it is a moral imperative. How else can we keep it from repeating?
And lest we forget, the majority of Texas voters brought this on.
I live here and no the fuck we didn't, the state is gerrymandered to all hell to keep those bastards in power…
Study Reveals the Lasting Voter Suppression Effects of Restrictive Texas Law | Brennan Center for Justice www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ana... Voter suppression is part of the problem.
Not necessarily true. Electoral college votes are awarded by congressional districts. If all the minority votes are aggregated into one or 2 gerrymandered districts, that automatically gives all the other heavily red districts a disproportionate number of electors. It's rigged for Rs from the start.
Sit down with your math bullshit. Texas fucked the country and its own people. Grow a pair and overthrow those traitorous rightwing motherfuckers or they will kill us all. Trump already told you he “hates” us. You’re either part of the revolution or you’re part of the problem. Which is it, champ?
That math bullshit is reality. Performative anger gets us nowhere. Fighting the structures that rob us of our votes is a necessary part of the process. Screaming "just vote them out" is naive and unserious. How would you "throw them out," exactly?
Nobody is gloating that children died. We’re sick about it!
I’m not gloating but I’m saving my empathy for those who DIDNT vote for this and were affected If they voted for this shit show I’m not giving one god damned drop of empathy - to me it’s same as German citizens who were all cool w/ Hitler and what he did - til bombs started falling on THEIR heads
Agree. At the same time our political opponents are deporting babies born here of undocumented parents. Also not the kids’ fault. How do we communicate the value of the grace we extend vs the lack of similar grace on their side?
Idk how 😭 Many are brainwashed from birth to believe they are chosen and everyone else is wrong, evil, sinful- "stay away from them, don't read books about them, don't talk to them", etc. They believe immigrants are not human, just as they believe "liberals" are their sworn enemy. 💔
The concept that someone may 'deserve to die' is not a little bit fascist? Just wondering
Ron filipkowski can go jump off a cliff for his statement about this today.
What i read is he connecting causes and effects. That's different from saying it was deserved. Even if he did, he just deserves a fair trial like everybody else, everywhere.
read what you just wrote. Ew
Children don’t deserve to die because of their parents political views.
Deserve aint got nothing to do with it.
No one said that, and neither do other people. You said my friend should jump off a cliff, nice doctor you are. gross
But in our society they unfortunately often do... cough-antivaxxers-cough
Check yourself. He didn't say anyone deserved it. FACT: Texas mostly votes Republicunt, whose president cut the NWS personnel and funding, leaving the entire country vulnerable to the tragic circumstances that just happened. FACT: Republicunt states are the most vulnerable.
But their parents do
Consequences of a parent’s vote should never be held against the children. They’re children.
Right, we want to make a “dreamer” self deport or risk a concentration camp. Like a 2 year old has any choice or say where there parents live but yet, here we are, everyday punishing children for the actions of adults, look at school shootings, and vaccines, kids dying for adult choices. 😔
Cutting SNAP is child cruelty.
Their own vote likely helped cause their kid's deaths. Pointing that out is not the same as saying it was "justified". Justice would be ONLY those who voted for Trump being hurt but unfortunately, that is not going to happen. 99% of us are probably going to end up being hurt by THEIR actions.
That may be. But pointing it out immediately following the wake of a tragedy like this serves no purpose, unless the purpose is to happily basque in feelings of self-righteousness. The people who do it look like soulless assholes celebrating the death of their enemies children.
When has “I/we told you so” ever changed anyone’s heart and mind? MAGAs have had 10 years of “we told you so” and they just double down harder. A little empathy - “your kids didn’t deserve this and it should never be allowed to happen again”might go a lot farther than “you did this so suck it.”
I. Don'. Care.
So in your view did they deserve to die?
That's right. It's the only way to deal with subhuman vermin.
Careful, there. You're sounding just like them. It's a slippery slope, and all you're doing is making things worse. These are young children you're talking about. Be better.
I don’t think they are capable. They do confirm that there are psychopathic cultists on both sides though.
Innocent children?
Even if this moron’s view wasn’t morally repugnant (there is no way to construe it otherwise). The logic of the position is utterly embarrassing. In their twisted world all Texans deserve this tragedy even though 39% voted democrat. Most republicans are less inhuman.
They’re a troll. Block and move on :)
I like to play with Trolls sometimes as they often block me… but you are probably right
Yet…
That's why they needed their parents and elected leaders to protect them. Calling out those failures is not saying they deserved to die. It's the opposite. They deserved for their needs to come first. It is outrageous that the fury we feel on their behalf is being turned around to make us villains.
well said.
Thank you. It's time to call out MAGA cruelty for what it is and take back the moral high ground without apology.
Exactly!
One role of government is to protect people from their own stupidity and stupidity of others - where I define a stupid person to be one who lets their actions cause harm to others or even themselves. These people deserved a better chance instead of the consequences of profit and wealth maximalism.
As John Locke pointed out centuries ago, when governments fail to provide for the basic needs of their citizens, they have the right to revoke their consent to be governed. We are barreling toward that day.
Theoretically the Republicans are shrinking government so we can drown it in the bathtub... Turns out the bathtub turned into a giant Florida swamp and government is growing into Godzilla.
We arrived at that day almost six months ago.
Nothing wrong with pointing out facts
if everybody had voted for a Democrat, kids included, there would have still been a flash flood of surprising severity that day
But if the county were not ruled by Republicans they might have had a flash flood warning system.
If they had zoning laws they might not build a kids camp in a dry river bed.
Gutting the @nws.noaa.gov probably is not the way to prove you wrong.
But their parents do. But for their parent's vote and those kids might still be alive. Their vote helped kill their own kids and will likely also contribute to the death of many more untimely deaths of kids and adults when their hospitals are closed or they lose insurance to point out just one issue
They voted against their own and their kids' best interest. They chose racism and evilness because they thought only "those people" would be impacted; and now their kids are dead, just like so many others who have died because of THEIR votes.
This post is why Democrats lose elections. R’s pass policies that harm their own children. We try to pass policies to save children. When children die from cruel R policies, Dems shame each other for wanting accountability.
It’s not why Democrats lose.
Just as they don’t control what Country they’re born in which is all that’s wrong with ending birthright citizenship!
Right!!!!!
Great sentimental example citing an appropriate corollary! They want your sympathy for disastrous outcomes resulting from their own detrimental decisions but won’t accept responsibility or culpability for the obvious outcomes! I don’t subscribe to the wishes of self conceited folks!
"They" aren't a uniform set of people. In absolute numbers more people vote blue in Texas than in most other states. Same way CA has more GOP voters than other states. People should really stop pretending they can determine party affiliation from knowing the state someone lives at m
Exactly this. The block button has been on a hair trigger lately. I’m done with listening to anyone that wants to paint entire states with a broad brush. By that same logic the rest of the world should turn its back on the entirety of the US for putting that monstrous dipshit back in power.
I only block obvious *bots* first. After that reciprocate as required. So good thing the "free" world know it's less than a third of voters that went for this. Who knows how many it really is given *Elon knows those computers really well, those vote counting computers* We do wot we can from afar🤘
This was a Christian summer camp. I made some assumptions from that, having had a bellyful of Christian(?!) commentary since 2020.
It is a summer camp that operates for like a century, and has like 700 to 1000 girls there per season. And maybe consider: people who took Christianity seriously might not necessarily be Trumpers. Some might, but sure not all.
Caution: Version of purport “Christianity” is very important in this context!
Yes you are right. Do you think they will consider moving the camps now?
I have no clue. What I have read so far, this camp also has that long history because it builds social networks for the attending girls. A LOT of influential TX females spend time there ... so I guess there will be a lot of support to continue it. But then, I read that online ... I guess ...
nobody can say what the people running that camp will do. Probably a fair guess that they don't know themselves at this point.
Exactly my thoughts.
Aren't these the "fuck your feelings" crowd? 🤔
That’s what they outwardly portray in their public discourse & pronouncements but their hypocrisy is always palpable!
I hate to say it but your argument sounds a lot like my friends who say we shouldn’t be empathetic for immigrants because they came here “illegally” and won’t accept responsibility for their decision.
I’m never EVER going to lose my empathy for someone losing their child, and will never feel they “asked for it”
Can I posit a situation? How many steps between directly killing your own child do you have to be to avoid culpability? Kill child yourself? Well I mean... Baseline. Get someone to kill child? OK but eh... Have opinions and make deliberate choices that result in the death of kid? Well... Hold on?
No one would either!
Except for the measles ant-vaxxers who acted like the were "okay" with losing a child bc it was "God's will." Did anyone ask the child who died a horrific, preventable death?
You can have that empathy. It can be independent of their responsibility.
Fair enough separation.
I think so.
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Even if they did vote, and voted for Trump, they still wouldn’t deserve to die.
The CHILDREN DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE is absolutely correct. No one believes they did but criticizing their parents for the vote they cast that helped caused their deaths deserves attention These people thought they would never be affected and we told them they would! The parents FAFO in the worst way
So, did ALL the dead children's parents vote orange?
Well, two Rep congress men had children there... and it is an evangelical camp, whether it is called Christian or not..
I guess all this was just God’s will. 🤷🏻♀️
Probably. In Texas, people vote Republican because it’s socially required. A colleague told me she voted for Trump because he seemed like the best choice. She asked me who I voted for. I told her Harris. She said, “Uh-Oh,” and pretty much avoided me after that. She considers herself a good person.
We need to talk about this infuriating reality so much more than we do. It's one of the biggest problems sane patriotic Americans need to solve.
I don’t know how to get around it. Back in the day, people in the South called themselves Yellow Dog Democrats because they’d vote for a yellow dog before voting for a Republican. A lot of people, it seems, vote their emotions and a sense of belonging/relating to the candidate.
I have an elderly friend who was a trump voter and is thoroughly disgusted. As gently as I could, I reminded her that I had been telling her how he is since the first Administration.
Voting to increase climate change and decrease our ability to deal with it is the issue. Telling a parent or grandparent that they voted for their loved ones death is sociopathic in its lack of empathy.
Literally no one has said that. At least not that I have seen.
Huh? WTH are you talking about? No one has said that but you.
Thank you Jess. That absolutely had to be said.
Not justified. Explained! Dozens of little girls died at summer camp because people voted for an idiot who cut 600 jobs from the NOAA. Their deaths were preventable, like gun deaths are preventable. Explaining the root causes of unnecessary deaths is step 1 in prevention. Jesus Christ. Vote Blue.
This!!!!!!! Also I’m fucking tired of being better. It’s getting us nowhere
It’s not justified. But unfortunately, it’s going to take horrific tragedies before the cult snaps out of it.
You're absolutely correct. Just never forget who was laughing when children drowned crossing the Rio Grande.
And weren’t there folks from the Abbott administration stringing barbed wire and other booby traps in the Rio Grande so that people would die? And, remember, it was Abbott who sent fake agents into refugee towns with fake coupons and bonuses for taking a bus out of TX?
There is no empathy in the 🍊💩
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...
Kristi Noem is putting 17 miles of that shit in the river right now!
Of course she is. 100% evil.
It was worse, it's razor wire.
You don't think she will throw some of that in too?
I'm really hoping she ends up in jail.
She is a shameless monster, I hope so too.
But it doesn’t justify gleefully celebrating children drowning for f@ck’s sake.
The only people I’ve ever seen celebrate the drowning of children were the people in Texas when they were so proud of the barbed wire their government placed in the Rio Grande.
And the ones drowning in their own blood in so many countries destabilized by these... I no longer have words harsh enough.
No one is “gleefully celebrating”!!!!! Actions have consequences and unfortunately those who have and those who will die have paid the price of the uneducated maga voters who got what they voted for.
I'm still only seeing people saying that it's not ok to do so, but no one celebrating. Are these people real? Do you see them? Are they in the room with you right now?
Nice bubble you live in.
I don’t see anyone doing that.
Then you aren’t on my timeline. They are so ugly.
Terrible
I certainly not celebrating. I am pointing out ignorance and lack of educated understanding, allowing people to think voting this regime in was good. I will never forgive the people who decided that hating everyone different from ignorant straight white males was worth voting trash into office.
This! Exactly this.
What Elizabeth said.
Yes, the government sucks and has been failing Texans for over 20 years now. But gloating about it and saying “they were smiling when there was barbed wire in the Rio” is not only false (we protested that) it doesn’t make it right.
Take a look at Travis Hertzog, ABC-13’s page on FB about the warnings and forecasting that went out in advance of this flash flood. He attached a slew of scientific meteorological data about this event, and a good deal of information about historical flood events in this region.
I live in the hill country. I follow Hertzog. We were told here that we were getting 4 inches of water before we went to bed. We woke up to hell breaking lose in Kerrville. The people on the local station kept saying “we had no idea this was happening until it was too late”.
They just now interviewed a lady who owns an RV park on the river. She called the authorities before going to bed to ask what the weather looked like. They said she’d be fine. She woke up to screaming and people being carried away by the flood. This was a nightmare, made worse by incompetence.
I am glad we can agree that Texas has a horribly corrupt and backwards government that does not serve their population. Now, advocate to vote them out! Those children that have lived through this disaster, they can be the voters.
What do you think I’ve been doing for the past 20+ years? There are SO MANY of us here on the ground pushing for a better Texas. What others must do is not become who they say they are working against. I’ve seen a LOT of that online today. It’s Uvalde all over again.
No one is gleefully celebrating children dying; however, there are folks out here who think it’s okay if old people die when they lose their healthcare. We live in a sick twisted world. 😩
When people post “lol, they got what they voted for” KIDS DON’T VOTE. There should be no gloating. I’ve seen many people just as bad as the folks buying alligator Alcatraz merch on here. That nonsense needs to stop.
You and I alone will never be able to stop other folks from being evil and saying evil things… look at the current Administration. So, just make your point and keep it movin’. We aren’t the judge or jury. We can’t yell, free speech only when it aligns with ours.
I haven't seen that.
Who’s celebrating? More people (except tRump & Co) have reached out to help than have been “celebrating”. Where was your outrage when children were gunned down in Uvalde? Thoughts and prayers.
Do you have any examples of real accounts doing that? I’ve only seen bots (and republicans pretending to be democrats) doing that. They stir up trouble & get us to turn on each other.
Who exactly is doing that?
Look around. I’m not the only person seeing it. People are horrible.
Your fake outrage over made up claims is disgusting
🤪😜😝
An old grey haired woman using children’s emojis to talk about tragedy. Sad, pitiful, and shameful.
I’m not old. I’m pissed at liberals who are saying these kids deserved it because their parents might be republicans. Just like Uvalde. Texans are constantly failed by the Texas leadership AND by the Texas democrats who somehow don’t promote their candidates.
“Liberals” are not saying kids “deserve” it, you are making that up and arguing against it, the definition of gaslighting. Democrats voted for politicians who would keep them safe. We all know republicans are in charge in Texas and Federally and you can’t name them? Shame and pity on you
Don’t gaslight people.
Who is gleefully celebrating?
Have you not been paying attention?
You didn't answer.
No one seems to be saying that. The children are innocent. The parents and local government certainly are not.
Pointing out how the Civility Police only show up to silence any effort to link political policies with real world outcomes when it’s the GOP being criticized is not celebrating anyone’s suffering. No one is enjoying this FFS.
Stirring shit to smell their own fumes at this point.
Or how they mocked the Sandy Hook killings.
And did nothing when children were murdered in Uvalde. No one should be anything less than horrified when the innocent die. Their deaths are rendered more horrible when those who should be keeping them safe fail in their duty.
Yes. And all the, “well their parents shouldn’t have brought them over the border illegally” people. It’s ok until it hits your own.
There were protests against that here. Saying “but they did…” is a middle school response.
Not at all- but we can point out that the leaders are responsible for defunding the the very things that could have saved lives.
No one is saying that. We are blaming their parents for voting for the people that are killing them.
I haven’t seen anyone say that the girls’ death was “justified”. That would be ghoulish. I HAVE seen people say that MAGA political decisions led to their deaths, and those policies should change. The reaction to THAT was that we shouldn’t “politicize” their deaths. Same as after school shooting
No one is cheering the deaths of children. We are trying to prevent the future deaths of children from MAGA policies. Via guns, weather, defective products, food contamination, disease, whatever.
More than a few liberals are monstrous fuckwits, too. It's not just maga who are reprehensible assholes. Everybody needs to work on themselves, but a LOT of Americans desperately need to work on themselves, and they aren't. It's why America is going down the toilet, fast.
Is anyone saying that?
I was added to the list of some random person on Bluesky (who I don't even know) called "people who think Texas kids are getting what they voted for". I have no clue why. I don't think that, not even a little, and have nothing but sorrow and empathy for those lost souls and their families.
I have seen dozens of posts like yours yet I have not seen a single post in my feed where anyone has said kids dying in Texas is justified. I’m wondering why.
Here, but don't let it be said you aren't warned. Fuck Texas in every variation.
Saying it’s predictable isn’t the same as saying it’s justified. It’s like saying gun deaths are a predictable outcome of letting the NRA write our gun laws.
predictability & justification are 2 different things. It’s predictable- Texas will flood. Flood severity depends on where rain falls, drought conditions(drought compacts soil and it’s hard like concrete & it can’t soak up water) Ma Nature causes flooding & human judgement doesn’t apply
Respectfully disagree. I worked in a town with a history of traumatic floods. Guess what, they built it in a floodplain. 1. Humans are part of nature. 2. We have foresight and agency. We are animals who predict.
My guess is you don’t live in Texas. Mass flooding takes lots of lives in Texas As the Kerr County sheriff stated, they didn’t have the siren system because the voters wouldn’t vote for one. You are correct we have foresight and agency, but we have to use those talents that the good Lord gave us
And they did not. My family was in Texas when it was northern Mexico.
The state of Texas ignores problems until they are at a crisis point. It’s a pattern, it’s a habit. And no one believes in long-term planning.
And yet the idiots of Texas keep voting to fuck themselves over. There clearly is a low intellect problem in Texas. They keep proving it year after year.
Thank you for your empathy once again. When you get a moment you might look up gerrymandering in Texas. Glad to see your progressive ideals are playing out in real time.
“When you get a moment”maybe you could stop blaming Republicans for the lazy Democrats that couldn’t get off their fat asses to vote or voted third party to help Trump win.
You seem to have them on your list of people hate too. Seems like a long list.
Gerrymandering does not prevent people from voting for the candidate of their choice. Yes, maps are drawn based on voting history to maximize the likely outcome - BUT voters can, and do, change their minds.
The state of Texas consistently falls short on things until there’s a crisis
GOP leadership.
And the fact that your family was here before the land on which we stand was American territory instead of Mexico? I’m not sure what that has to do with this thread.
You asked about my connection to Texas. And btw. Floods happen almost everywhere. This is not a Texas specific problem.
Putting this horrible thought out there, and waving your finger at a vast empty expanse of unknown and possible bad actors doesn't help a damn thing
I haven’t seen anyone say that.
Neither have I
👏 this
So those parents are free of responsibility(?) Get a grip.
Can anyone please direct me to a single example of this? I’ve seen this take a few times, and yes, obviously to say any of this tragedy is deserved in any way would be horrible, but I am terminally online and have yet to see a single example of someone saying this?
@piperformissouri.bsky.social it’s been more than 24h of intense internet combing & have seen hundreds of creators discussing how awful it is that people are saying this tragedy was deserved…….and have seen ZERO (0) creators actually saying this terrible thing. Do we have a source, at all?
Genuinely asking. I have three different echo chambers set up on three different devices, not to say I’m capturing everything, of course. But it’s weird to here the outcome take so frequently, and not to see a single creator actually saying “kids deserved to die bc of how their parents voted.”
I’d love a source. Not to extend their reach, that’s unacceptable, but to verify that this is being said at all and not just another propogandization designed to encourage rage.
Don't think anyone would Jess? Most are sounding the alarm; calling out prevention/ protection and are worried about defunding warning systems, environmental issues and response funding ... Justifiably so 💔💔💔😥
I agree. Nobody means to be that crass. But we have to point out who’s fault it is.
Jess I’ve followed you for years, from Twitter over to here. But this post just doesn’t pass the smell test. Clearly you’re implying members of the D party are saying this. And they’re not. Sure, this is FAFO territory, but you’re fanning the flames for Rs to say Ds feel kids’ deaths are “justified”
Do you follow Ron Filipowski?
Probably should delete this.
How bout you tag Ron to delete his wildly insensitive post.
I do, he didn't say flood deaths were justified either.
I've seen it multiple times and called it out every time. They absolutely are and it shocked me. Lots of jokes about fema not coming, you get what you voted for, FAFO, karma, bootstraps, paper towels...from Dems. Probably libs. I'm a leftist and fuck R and D both.
FAFO does NOT mean deaths are “justified.” One can have both apathy for Texan voters (read: ADULTS, crucially important here) who didn’t listen to the writing on the wall about Trump’s plan to strip FEMA, NOAA, etc, AND horror at the loss of young lives at the expense of said voters.
It's smarmy and ghoulish when there's dead children. Saying FAFO about children who drowned is fucked, periodt. Basic human decency forbids it and I don't give a fuck what magats say, I expect no better from them.
No one is saying FAFO about the deaths! Geesh, Ami, try to get the point here. When you FA with providing infrastructure and accurate communications and disaster prevention and emergency response systems and relief funds and etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc… you will FO. Yes it’s fucking tragic
Believe it or not, I do understand all that. I saw libs positively gleeful that red state kids died. That'll teach them, blah blah blah. My position is that thinking, not to mention actually writing it out where everyone can see, is 100% totally fucked and gross and I will not reconsider this.
Okay I will have that same reaction when I see that post. Please post some of them is this thread to expose them for the scum they are
I've done enough homework for other people already. They're there.
Oh and also, I initially searched “kids” rather than “children” and the results were even older.
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This is the proper way to look at this mess. People need to learn from this and make it better. Laying on blame helps no one. 😥
"We don't listen to the scientists, then we blame them when what they warned about actually, predictably, happens."
NWS gave ample warning. Texas government officials did not pay heed.
We have no way of knowing if the weather service could have accurately predicted this if they had a full staff, but we do know for certain they can't forecast it if there is no one there.
Yes. Perfectly said. Voting has consequences. People need to get that thru their thick skulls. Would be great if we had a brilliant communicator who could get through to them. We won't get anywhere otherwise. And the FAFO parrots need to STFU already.
I guess the vote was a " I hate them " cause they are brown. Cause they are LGBT Cause they don't believe in God They ignored the 🍊 turd Crimes, bankruptcies, but they love his hate, sort of vote. Indeed sad. Too much pain going around.
If anyone has said that: block them. They're monsters and deserve no platform in civilised discourse.
I don't believe anyone thinks those children deserved to die because of their parents' vote. But those parents that voted for Trump, sure as hell, don't get to blame anyone but themselves and him
Correct, no sane or decent person is celebrating the tragedy in Texas, however, there is a cause and effect situation that we have to look at here.Those parents who voted for Trump have to accept the consequences of their actions, Trump & Muskrat have defunded, disabled our agencies .
2. By there numerous firings of competent employees, to the point where they are incapable of responding to the needs of the public. This tragedy is just the beginnings of sorrows, all Americans will face, even those of us who didn't vote for him, as a result of his wholesale destruction of our gov.
The phrase "sane or decent" is doing so much heavy lifting here, you need a special license to operate it.
While they do hold some responsibility but truth is they are victims to a longterm propaganda campaign so big and vast it took decades to get to this moment.
Exactly.
THATS the issue. God Speed for those lost. Empathy has no political boundaries. maga does
i think they should live in the world they created. they said empathy was weak, then they don't get any.
And let's be honest, those same parents would not give a rat's ass if campers in New York or California died in a flood or wildfire, and the president they chose would gleefully deny aid for those states.
If you don't think anyone even on this platform thinks those children deserved to die, go read the comments under @dieworkwear.bsky.social 's post about the GoFundMe accounts for the families. Just be aware that it will take a little of your soul.
No one is saying they're justified because that's stupid.
No one said that. You’re projecting rot.
That’s exactly right. Decisions have consequences. We need a functional weather emergency system and emergency response team. My only question is how many more people will have to die before MAGA connects the dots?
My guess? Quite a lot.
Exactly, and no one wants to see children die. Or do they? When we try to say how crazy it is that they even thought to do that, complete ignore, as if it wasn’t real. Now it’s hurricane season - which makes it very real. The sad thing is - it’s those with no empathy who voted for this in 1st place.
That's the nature of fascism; find someone to demonise and then hate them.
MAGA is a Death Cult.... people dying is the whole point
42.4 percent of the population voted for Harris About 250 Thousand Texans are aboriginal
Are people saying it’s justified??!! I don’t see that. I see a lot of people saying it’s a direct result of the DOGE cuts.
Cause & effect.
And Trump blamed the Biden Administration
Of course he did. That’s his standard response. On the campaign trail, it’s “I alone can fix it”. In the Oval Office, it’s “I don’t take responsibility for anything at all”.
For not staying in the race and winning Texas?
💯
Children always seem to pay the price. My heart just breaks for them.
The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the Texas gov’t. The same gov’t who refuses to connect to the national electrical grid creating utility bills in the thousands, strung razor wire in the Rio Grande killing wildlife and humans, & has the largest Measles outbreak in the country.
I would hope no one would. Hurt, fear, anger, grief over other sufferings might cause people to lash out, but let’s remember how many choices we often didn’t have as children. They’re victims too.
Well, their parents should've voted better. Sucks that kids died, but this was preventable with a functioning govt system. Which their parents voted against. Consistently, despite being warned that something like this very thing could happen. Its a tragedy, but one with a clear guilty party...
And this area was hit in 1987 when a religious camp was also affected. Can these churches not set up camps in areas prone to flooding. Texas govt could do better, but they won't. God's will Y'all!
None of that is justified! The problem is that some of these people keep voting the way that they do, which puts them in these circumstances. For a lot of these people, it’s OK if bad things happen, as long as it’s not them. All of this could’ve been avoided and it doesn’t ever have to happen again
Or just be better. Period.
Kerrville is known for flooding.
I think that would be from the maga playbook to blame everyone else.
No one says deaths in Hill Country were 'justified'. NO ONE. People are posting a time line to explain tragedy. •11/20 trump elected •trump/Doge cut 30% from NOAA & NWS Inc forecasters •storm escalated from rain> downpour> flood watch> warnings> evacuation. •magistrates:shelter in place
Exactly. Not justification; but causality
Sure they are- seeing lots of “you get what you vote for” and lack of empathy for Texas from so-called progressives.
but, you DO get what you vote for. I have no idea what/who the parents , or any relative of any victim, voted for. my heart goes out to them. these are two separate truths.
Read. The. Room. Seriously. That’s it. Children (and others) are dead and the toll is still climbing. It’s not the time to finger wag, and anyone withholding empathy for the presumed politics of Texas is gross and no better than MAGA. “I only care about people who share my views” is MAGA101
In context, this clarification was in response to TX publicly blaming NWS.
it seems like you are defining "withholding empathy" as discussing any factors that contributed to the worsening of the disaster. I disagree, but it's your thread. have a good night.
No, I’m not. Discussing the cuts themselves, or staffing issues, or warnings, or systemic infrastructure failures is valid and discussing the cause. Saying “I told you so” to victims is unhelpful and advances nothing.
Those are not the same as calling the deaths justified.
I literally have read multiple comments saying the kids deserved it bc it happened in a red state. People are absolutely being ghouls and relishing in the loss.
Devastated for parents, families, communties no matter who they voted or didn't vote for. We have to learn from these tragedies if we are to avoid them. TX didn't learn from flooding 50 years ago in the same place.
No one is legitimately saying that. I hope.
Exactly 👍
If you stoop to that level, not only does nobody win. You'll lose yourself as well.
Honestly, I keep seeing posts like this one, admonishing what really would be despicable, but I have yet to see a single post expressing the actual despicable opinion. Are we sure they are not bots or trolls? Who would say such a thing?
Same. I have not seen even one. If any exist it's probably a bot or some MAGA type with a sock account.
This is what happens. The internet is always creating it's own reality out of imagined controversy. Controversy given life by others playing a confusing game of telephone.
Yeah same here. I've blocked a lot of trolls so maybe thats why I haven't seen anything. Maybe they say something despicable, screenshot it and log into their maga account to post it on twitter. And say "look what the evil liberals are saying!!!1!!"
Same! And then they point to one person’s post, which was clearly written from a place of concern. The problem is that the irresponsibility of any administration impacts us all. Kids included. That’s why votes matter. To not discuss this now is like not discussing gun control after a school shooting
I created a new list specifically for this kind of straw man fallacy engagement-farming bait post
I did see on truth social many, many posts and comments on how "ghoulish and evil the libs are" on this. I, personally, have NOT seen any real evidence at all that this sentiment exists here on bluesky.
And if someone does say it, they're not a liberal, by definition. Seems we've found the latest right-wing disinformation and defamation angle.
i dont even follow libs on purpose and i saw several that got ratio'd very harshly
Well there it is: 1 out of... 77... so far. Fats should be ashamed.
Notably, Elon himself funded ($100mil) a scam w bots pretending to be Democrats to funnel people to a MAGA website and get them to hate Dems www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10...
Same. I think there is a lot of troll sh*t stirring out there and several well-meaning people taking the bait. No decent person is saying any victim deserved this horrific outcome. People are calling out Republican policies that harm us all.
Same. Post after post admonishing behavior that is virtually non-existent instead of focusing on the people who caused the massive loss of life.
None come to mind that EXPLICITLY say they're glad kids drowned, but I've noticed a few that "laugh" about it. One that I just came upon below. I might go further and say that it's bad form to be happy ADULTS drown in a flooded Trump-voting county too - not just dead kids
Oof, this one might be worst of all, as he just kept doubling down
Yeah pretty ineffective to state this without examples. It's a new kind of clickbait or even a form of trolling. Pretty extraordinary claim!
Some kind of tone policing with a dash of 'how dare you'.
She’s posting it for clicks cause she’s some kind of bigwig in Missouri
🤔🫤👍
As a white male, I've noticed that I'm often surprised by the attacks people experience. Whether racial, gender or whatever, I'm often unaware of how grotesquely people act. I'm often shocked to find that I've been excusing some of those same behaviors as not real, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT FOR MYSELF
It's everywhere. Refusing to help Texans, saying that voted for this, etc. just go look at the replies in any big "blue wave" account and you'll find them. People are making entire lists of those saying this. I blocked about a dozen replies to just this post yesterday. bsky.app/profile/texa...
I don’t think they deserve that, trump is the one axing programs, he cut weather alerts too, I believe.
Honestly, I haven’t seen one person say that. Lots of postings about “don’t” but I’m glad to say I haven’t seen even one awful post. We’re the kinder, gentler X over here and I’m grateful to BluSky for that. 💙
Me either.
I thought that too until I read the comments under the menswear guy's post about the GoFundme accounts. It looked like a blue-wave version of X had invaded the platform.
Thanks I haven’t seen that but I’ve had some run ins with a few awful accounts. I just block and forge ahead 😂
probably is X people, they are on here pretending to be dems
I’ve seen a slight uptick in “radical” Dem accounts too. I block. Ain’t nobody got time for drama here. 😂
encountered one or two. I followed a couple and almost immediately was sent one of those "How was your day" convos. ugh ugh ugh.
I truly hope so.
a lot are, if you read their replies you can figure it out 👍
I have. Several. Here and Facebook. That? That’s Liberal MAGA.
"liberal maga" lol
Notably, Elon himself funded ($100mil) a scam w bots pretending to be Democrats to funnel people to a MAGA website and get them to hate Dems www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10...
There's a million bots on Bluesky. Some are encouraging violence, others that encourage people to give up and accept the felon, and many other ways of dividing people including heinous comments. Don't be fooled.
this !! we aren't dumb, we had Twitter lol
Thank you!
I know actual people posting this but yes, you are correct.
Yes, it starts with bots, then people decide to repost, because they're tired, they're scared and they aren't thinking through the effect this has on everyone else. Like this guy...
"Justified" is not the word you were looking for. A direct result of their parents vote, POSSIBLY LIKELY. But natural disasters happened in 2024 that were not prevented when all those agencies were fully staffed. Sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring climate science? I don't remember
weather events of this magnitude when I was a kid. I'm 64. The federal highway system was built in the 50's five or six years before I was born. By the 1970's air pollution was so bad you couldn't see the LA skyline. We used to have "SMOG alerts". It's clear today. BLUE SKIES. Figure it out.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that; however, don't mix up the cause with the effect. TX proves over and over that R policies are causing unnecessary deaths. No abortions for miscarriages - death, anti-vaccines - death, anti-climate- death (winter and summer), and now anti-gov. agencies-death.
They're not justified. But Trump, Noem, Abbott, and MAGA voters need to be held accountable for this needless loss of life just to save a buck.
But they aren't even saving the money. They're giving it to men who can't spend what they have in 10 lifetimes.
Yes! Accountable/culpable.
This new schtick by our betters is so tiresome. Of course they don’t deserve it nor is it justified. But it is what happens when you elect repubs year after year.
AND DON'T let this be swept under the rug !!!! You know who is responsible !!!!!!
No, but it is their parents fault that the robber barons took over and canceled services they did not understand so they canceled. It is their parents fault that they chose not to protect the children first by making safer choices for them. Babies are innocent adults are guilty by failing them.
People who look like me are being hunted down like animals and dying in detention centers because of their “parents vote”for genocide. I’m not happy about what’s going on in Texas I just don’t care so stfu.
Who said that? We have too many that cruelty is the point
“Their children deserve to die too” is the fundamental thought that motivates genocide
The children are the ultimate target.
It’s why they picked abortion as the ultimate wedge issue
Children can't control who their parents are or who their parents vote for. The loss of so many children is a tragedy. Never mind who their parents voted for or didn't vote for.
Someone said it’s ok kids died because their parents vote Democrat ??? Jess. Be better would be the understatement of the year. I’m about to go off!!
What is your point? If someone drives their car off a cliff on purpose, we are supposed to mourn them and stop our lives and cry for them? Really? They literally committed suicide and not because of depression, but because of hubris. F- tx. They can all burn in hell.
What effing Ghouls are saying stuff like that?! No, sorry strike that! Ghouls would never say such an inhumane thing! And I should know, I played enough Horror RPGs and listened to enough "Geisterjäger John Sinclair" audio dramas. They may gnaw on the dead, but even they are better than this!
I keep seeing this scold, but I haven’t the folks who need the scolding.
glad to hear it. perhaps they've quieted down
Or people were never saying it in the first place.
i can promise you they were. i found whole comments sections full of them. there are some links provided in other threads replying to this post for skeptics
Exactly. It’s as if the would-be ‘scolder’ is inviting it, challenging an unsuspecting reader – in order to justify the anger they are projecting.
We need more nuance on these incidents, which are violent atrocities committed by our government. Regressing to a duopoly of “this is what they voted for”/“thoughts & prayers” allows the admin to continue getting away with highway robbery. This highlights Dem messaging failure. The clock is ticking.
I personally haven't seen comments about children dying being justified, but I have seen people pointing out cause & effect of dismantling institutional safety nets that help keep people safer/healthy. I don't see a problem in pointing out those realities. It's a stark reminder of what's at stake.
In fact, send aid instead, show what real Americans are made of.
I can both feel for the kids as well as condemn the idiots whose votes caused the senseless tragedy. And a lot of them are already trying to shift blame with their conspiracy theories.
Sad but true. Many many victims
The tragedy was predictable, unfortunately. On the current trajectory, weather events with outcomes that could have been mitigated by well staffed, NOAA weather starions, but which turn out to be catastrophic, will continue.
Hell no! It's because Trump authorized the DOWNSIZING of local weather offices ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. Less people means more pressure on those that are left which means things will be missed. This is ALL on Trump & DOGE.
Children born to republican parents are as unfortunate as any child can be. Completely innocent (as all children are), but will learn to be awful people from their parents "Every child born a seed; How are you going to help them grow?" m.soundcloud.com/dave-cadaqu/...
Dems MUST BE better than this. AND if YOU aren't, you aren't DEMS. NOR HUMAN.
It's very difficult to empathize with evil people. They voted out of hatred to inflict suffering and pain on people they hate.They are the kind of ppl that celebrate when they see brown children being sent to concentration camps. They're no different than the Nazi monsters to sent Jews to Auaschwitz
You realize that the majority of adults in Gaza are even worse than MAGAs, right? The amount of religious fundamentalism, regressive ideology, and desire for violence expressed by those in violence would make most MAGAs blush.
Nobody mentioned Israel or Gaza, soooo ??? That almost all Palestinians are extremist zealots is just BS, btw.
You mentioned Jews. Don't bring us up if you're going to turn around and accuse us of the very conspiracies parroted by works like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. And I didn't say "all Palestinians." I said "adults in Gaza."
You're quite possibly a crazy person. Bless you.
lol
And yet even then, the children in Gaza are still all innocent. YES THAT EVEN INCLUDES THE ONES HOLDING AND FIRING GUNS BECAUSE THE ADULTS PUT THEM IN THEIR HANDS.
If you want to see what people are doing, look to see what they accuse Jews of doing. You accuse us of being blood thirsty but here you are cheering on the deaths of children.
And bringing up the pain and suffering of Jews while you parrot Protocols level antisemitic vomit on one hand and cheer on the deaths of children in another? You have no place using us as a talking point, MF.
My guy. The IDF has been shooting starving Palestinians in line waiting for food. They even admitted that they were ordered to. Gtfoh, you Zionists pos.
There are some reports that are true. And those instances of crossing the line must absolutely be dealt with. The people who cross the line must be brought to justice.
At the same time, the civilian:combatant mortality ratio is typical of modern urban warfare. What you fail to take into account is that, based on this information...
...it is far more likely that most of the reports are misidentifying fighting between aid workers and Hamas with innocents caught in the middle. I HATE when innocents are killed in war. I HATE when children die. Here you are cheering the deaths of children.
Do you mean the ISIS terrorists that Israel itself put their and lied to the media about and said that they're Hamas. Yeah, they don't even bother with that anymore and are just using aide as a weapon now, which is a war crime. How do you sleep at night siding with an apartheid state like Israel
1200 Israeli 25000 and counting Palestinians eye for and eye?
Release the hostages and war over. Oh wait….Hamas refuses to do that!
They have to disarm too.
Hamas is the organic resistance to Israel occupation and systematic slaughter of the indigenous Brown population just like Native Americans like Geronimo and Crazy Horse fought against White invaders in the West. The US called Native Americans "savages" and now the US calls Hamas "terrorists"
Daniel. This is very ignorant. Please take your Zionist, genocide supporting, mass murdering mentality elsewhere. Thank you.
Oh look. The anonymous person telling the Jewish anthropologist they're ignorant. How cute. You don't even know what Zionism is.
And it's ironic that you accuse me of genocide support, mass murder mentality, etc. when you lot are literally cheering on the deaths of children because of their MAGA parents. You are what you accuse us of being. That's always been the case.
Breathe, Daniel, breathe.
It's not a matter of it being "justified" by anyone. It's a matter of karma. These people overwhelmingly voted to inflict pain and suffering on those human beings they hate; when one sends out hate and suffering, at some point, the laws of nature will send it back to them.
Parents do vote. They’re inability to educate themselves properly DO make them responsible for their childs safety and future! Don’t for one millisecond let your government off the hook on reducing Americans availability to Federal safety and recovery processes! The GOP IS responsibke!
Each and every GOP voter needs to be held accountable!
Jesus Christ, you be better and smarter!
No parent should outlive their children. That said if they voted for and support this fascist takeover then they deserve every single ounce of pain they are feeling 10x over. For every single minute of the rest of their lives.
There is a full investigation into the State's notifications. But they haven't told me why they fired all the employees.
Did someone really say, or imply, something that sick? I haven't seen anything like that yet in any of the online spaces I can be found lurking. Am I just living a sheltered life?
It's lurking in the background of "people in red states deserve what they get for voting for this".
I've seen it a few times in BSky. It's not as common but it is here too.
Thank you, the parents deserve to struggle financially for their vote, be ostracized and lose friends, or similar appropriate repercussions for their actions. Nobody deserves to have their child pass away, and the children absolutely don’t deserve so suffer for their parent’s actions.
Justified?? No. Put the blame for this where it belongs .. Republicans made the cuts to give billions in tax breaks to fucking billionaire donors.. There will be more lives lost. And we will call out those responsible again until someone does something to change the outcome.
Don't confuse acknowledging something as justifying it.
No intent to justify, however it is the reason. Sad but true.
You be better. Utilize your knowledge to think past this ignorant post. You want to waste time spreading this garbage. You are right in there, causing damage like Mr Magoo trying to help. Do us a favor. Reconsider your profession.
Justified... No... Completely expected and the result of their actions... Yes?
Yeah no one is saying that. If it exists I have not seen it. What people are saying is when people vote for Republicans there are going to be horrible tragedies made worse by bad or vanished policy.
Notably, Elon himself funded ($100mil) a scam w bots pretending to be Democrats to funnel people to a MAGA website and get them to hate Dems www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10...
Yes.
Is anyone actually saying that or are you just trying to get clicks by saying people are saying that?
Look in the replies to this post.
I got tired of the straw man posts like OP's and started adding engagement farming profiles to a list
I have seen it here and on Facebook. Yes. I call those people Liberal MAGA.
I am just saying that I am sure you can find one example but 'those people' implies lots of people or at least a few so this should not be too hard.
Would be interested in seeing. Is there a hashtag for it?
I call them shitlibs
Really. Can you share one of those posts? Just an example please.
I was about to ask that question. Bots, perhaps?
Always crickets but at least one bio looked like a reasonable person so I am just waiting.
Bless you. I am not so patient.
Guess little miss impatient exhausted blocked me, maybe you can share
Well that shit is nasty from either side and calling them out is fair. They are not in fact libs but something else, broken enraged folks. On both sides they exist.
Honestly it's like everyone has been poisoned by hatred. I try to keep my shit together, but some days are harder than others.
Try harder when you feel challenged. Keep your attention on the real evil. Project 2025.
bsky.app/profile/diew... Here ya go. Read the comments. In the comments is also a block list of all the blue maga shitlibs making ghoulish comments. Hundreds more on Facebook. It's like a gut-punch to realize it's also "us" that are the baddies as well. Maybe tribalism isn't the way?
Agreed nasty shit but it is on both sides. Have you been paying attention to anything Trump says? I also hate to see anyone going to the extent of blaming children's death on the parents vote. One can also understand a human's outrage in the fact that this was unnecessary.
I am entirely too well informed to enjoy good mental health these days, but I try
You're wasting your time. These people are focused on "Liberal MAGA" because they saw 5 insane comments out of 10,000.
I haven’t read anyone say it was justified.I did write that in the light of weather related disasters in TX recent years(power grid failures ect)the citizens re-elect the same people. Like Ted Cruz. All Texans dont vote Repub.But, whats it gonna take to wake folks up & vote interest of the people.
Who exactly is saying that? Are you threading a needle that if Trump cuts affected the lack of warning and these parents voted for trump as your example, I call bull. It’s the parents who want answers, even if it’s not the answer they want to hear.
Parents voted for this dumb ass republican decision…. And kids drowned. Fact.
Somehow, people seem to believe that 100% of the people in Central Texas and the five counties affected were MAGA, that only MAGA people died. I thought Bluesky would be filled with progressives sharing empathy, I was wrong.
Kerr county political stats. Voted no to funding siren warning system in 2017 under gop lead President governor, and county officials. What’s left to debate here Rebel?
Hi Linda I don't live or vote in Kerr County. If you dont recognize the profile pic...give a little guess as to who it might be. Dumb ass behind your keyboard attacking fellow progressives. Don't you need to go post something hateful on Facebook?
I didn’t look at your profile pic, I read your comment. Facts matter to true progressives so your words ring hollow, go whine elsewhere. 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
This is not just about JUST the sirens. Of course sirens should have been funded and operable. Flooding covers 5 counties and hundreds of miles. Layers of systems failed.
I 100% agree with that statement.
No one said that, hon. But you do have to agree that the vast majority of Texans vote Republican and elect the right wing scum and their fascist policies that caused this and other deadly disasters in the state and our nation.
The rural areas vote red. Historically, Houston, Dallas San Antonio and of course Austin vote blue. Again, gerrymandering.
And at the end Texas has voted red for decades and are directly responsible for the deaths in Texas they voted for, not to mention the deadly fascism they have helped unleash on our nation. Sit down with you bullshit gerrymandering excuses.
Yeah but I doubt many democrats would send their kids to a Christian summer camp. That’s one of those places SA is known to happen.
I’m progressive, and I taught music every summer at our church Bible school all thru highschool. Granted I was a Presbyterian in Oregon, not a Baptist in the South- completely different animal to say the least. My point was this was political malpractice. Avoidable deaths. And they must own it.
There are Baptist churches that separated from the Southern Baptist Convention. Shocker even progressive Baptists! TX is so much more diverse than what most people think..a huge variety of faiths and atheists
Well, my birth family has a monstrous lineage of don’t drink,don’t dance,wear skirts, make girls wear modesty bathing suits kinda ministers. Stifling and clearly my birth mother rebelled as here I am as evidence. Hard pass on Baptists for me. Bye the bye- where are donations from Olsteen churches?
Joel Olsteen is a p.o.s. I'm no longer religious
There are MANY camps in this area, rv parks, vacation rentals..and that is just that small area 5 counties have flooded, hundreds of miles
There were deaths not related to any camp..rv's, trailers, homes swept away
Siren warning system and deployed personnel would have saved all not just the campers.
Agreed.
People saying things like this are on par with those they hate in MAGA. No empathy left, just pure anger. Put the hate down. Texas is suffering. A national disaster is one of the most horrible things a person can endure. You lose all your home, all your belongings, and sometimes your loved one.
This completely. I don't understand what they hate in MAGA when they act the same way, just deciding which people to hate or dehumanize.
Absolutely agree. 💔
NOBODY IS SAYNG THIS. WHY ARE YOU SPREADING MAGA LIES?
NOBODY IS SAYING THAT, KAREN.
Wow y she got to be a Karen. That’s un called for.
Only maga claims that Democrats are celebrating children’s deaths. That is a nazi lie.
Sounds like maga propaganda.
Who is saying this?
Not that it hasn't been said, people are shitty ....But thus far I haven't heard it.
Shame on anyone who says this.
Not justified. It’s just the reality of the situation. It sucks. I wish people saw this before they voted. But they are now forced to live in this reality that they perpetuated.
No one wants kids to die, no matter who their parents vote for.
Wrong. MAGAts actively want kids to die. They cheer kids dying in Gaza, literally. They cheer about feeding 65 million people to alligators. (The entire population of Latinos in the USA - documented, undocumented, actual citizens, etc). They cheer for statements like "we didn't kill enough Indians"
And yet some vote for individuals who implement policies that kill kids, and those policies are why they vote in that way.
We need to stop doing this it's hard to imagine why a part of this country voted to hurt the rest of us. I hope people understand now that the gop doesn't care about any of us. There's a defunded national weather service no fema and who's helping in the search Mexico. We need to come together now.
I would refer people to Deut24:16 and Ezek18:20 about personal responsibility for sin. I am not quoting directly here as the verses are a bit grim of themselves, especially at the moment.
Its not Justified... It was a act by their parents... but I doubt they can accept they are the responsible party like adults..
I feel sorry for all Texans and wish that no one died and I truly hope that the governor holds his promise to help all the Texans who have suffered from the floods
Who is saying that? Sounds like you're building a “strawman” to knock down! Please don't use “Jesus Christ” in the same statement. I say that as an agnostic. It’s “MAGA 🍊 Jesus” which is an oxymoron Jesus’s teachings are compassion& empathy not HATE & LIES.
You are right, a senseless death is just that, and I can be deeply saddened about their loss. This does not however remove the guilt from people who allowed it to happen. Both can be true
storms are GOD's way of showing HIS displeasure at how people behave. Isn't that what they claim about those areas that supported...oh, same sex marriage?, when NYC was hit by some hurricane? or the west coast by an earthquake? What goes around, comes around. FAFO & all that.
It's the result of their own ignorance, sorry, but true. They drank the tea.
Totally agree!
Agree, but there are lots of Laura Loomers types who would if tables were turned.
It's not justified, but it's a consequence of Trump's election. Thousands of children will die because of Trump, and no one will care.
I’ll care.
Thoughts and Prayers for all the supporters of the Leopards Eating Face Party.
But what will you DO?
What will you do besides post more pictures of your ass? Gtfoh
Bot
You are a bot. All the accounts with ass profiles are bots.
No. I am a lingerie designer.
Am I a bot? Or does this TLA stand for something else?
What I’ve been doing resisting in any way possible. But I’ll still take time to care.
Keep voting blue, obviously. That's our best bet for saving children. Call our representatives, protest, strike
They’ll do nothing other than occasionally post about it believing that is what resisting means 🤷♂️
I…think lots of people care?
The children's parents will care, some empathetic people will care. But neither Trump nor any of his fans will shed a tear. They're sitting on their stolen money and happy to be rich. If there were a God, these people would immediately crumble to dust.
Ah, I see your point. The people who are in power don’t care. Agree.
Quit - no one is saying unless they’re bots or anti woke
100%
Jess....can you link to anyone saying that?
I’ve seen that literally once and that is what’s driving all the left on left attacks. Hate to say virtue signaling but that’s what it is
I never saw or read anyone saying that. If our showing those parents the SAME compassion when they voted to eliminate those agencies "to own us" is not saying those kids drowning is justified. The parents' pain is of their own making as they intended their votes to hurt others. Sorry..same mercy.
I am done play nice with fuckers who took my body autonomy and my vote, voted to send immigrants to their deaths and are evil republicunts. Not even my family is immune. Their god is OK with the death and destruction...I condemn it too!
Same here. I haven't seen anyone on Bluesky suggest it was "justified" - maybe I just hang in the right circles here, as I would have blocked people saying it. I've heard Magas accusing liberals of saying this, but I have not seen anyone actually say I, much less large numbers.
Totally not justified to say that. Those kids are completely innocent to any of this. It's a real shame. And: Justified to say that if they voted for Trump, they set up the situation that resulted in this tragedy. And the many more tragedies to come.
That’s the problem. You think we’re condoning it. All we’re saying is it probably wouldn’t have happened but for their parents’ vote.
You have no idea who their parents voted for. Pretty sad.
What you say may be true but who’s running the state?
Nope I don’t. But the majority of parents in that state voted for the man who’s taken compassion out of the equation. That’s on the majority. The kids are dying because of their parents’ decision. It’s no different to measles vaccines. No one should be dying.
The Texas election was 56% to 42% with only 61% voter participation, so statistically no, they didn’t. Also, Texas is huge, famous for voter suppression, and the area this happened is blue. This take is all sorts of unjustified, and it’s also inaccurate.
Just because their parents MAY have voted for the wrong people, we still shouldn't celebrate shitty people's kids dying. Shit on the adults, leave the kids out of the equation.
Who the fuck is celebrating?! “Yay, kids are dead!” That’s not what anyone’s saying. Have a nice night.
I agree! I have no idea where or who is posting terrible things about the floods or about those who lost their lives. I have not seen anything like that at all.
It's out there
Well I'm not going to look for it. All I can say is the people I follow have not been
Yeah, resistance is not revenge, justice is not revenge. Physics: action and reaction are equal and opposite. Encouraging consequences for actions is science.
Encouraging consequences for [bad] actions is a duty.
It is and it is becoming imperative. Vice versa *good actions* Reward
True, not only imperative but a matter of survival
People are saying "you het what vote for". Who knows what is real and what is a bot.
Saying that you get what you vote for is not celebrating. Surely you're able to see the difference?
Those shitty people celebrate kids being handcuffed and ripped away from their parents. So, yeah. Tit for tat.
No one is celebrating but it’s not wrong to point out why it happened to try and prevent something similar happening in the future
Agree 100%.
That semantic difference doesn’t matter- now is not the time for “we warned you”, etc. Read the damn room. It’s also ignorant- just bc someone lives in TX doesn’t mean they voted red. That section of TX is very blue, so what’s your justification there?
You’re telling me the parents of the girls at the Christian camp voted Harris? 🧐
Maybe they send their kid there bc it’s the cheapest camp, or works best with their work schedule, or they know someone there. In any event, withholding empathy for literal children is disgusting and reeks of the very people you claim to be better than.
Maybe, but probably not.
there are often deaths or injuries due to natural disasters. those are tragedies. when the tragedies were preventable , that's a tragedy compounded. it's always time to prevent tragedy.
Therefore, based solely on the provided search results, it's not possible to definitively state whether the flooding happened in a "blue district."
I mourn for the loss of the children. But I also state my opinion on why it happened. It’s no different to measles, Covid, or a gun rampage in a school. The simple fact is the people in charge in Tx are loudest about climate change being fake, and the people of the state are paying the price.
To what end, though? It’s unproductive and poorly received. The right wingers don’t care- you’re not solving anything with this soulless analysis that lacks any nuance on the region. It’s tone deaf at best. You’re not the only one doing this btw. I’m simply tired of seeing the same lazy takes.
My point is it doesn’t matter. These are dead kids- they by definition can’t be unfavorable voters.
If you feel a certain way but not the accepted way to feel you'll be Karen'd. It's been happening all day. I'm not seeing accounts lauding the flood deaths, but I'm sure as shit seeing a lot of Karens telling us how to feel or else. Same shit happened over Mamdani, I didn't see Dem heads exploding
Ok, well, you have a nice night.
No justification, preventable death cannot be justified. However, those deaths are directly related to trumps irresponsible policies.
I was reading that the community had a chance to have a warning system but did not wish to pay taxes for that. If that is so, it wouldn't just be an issue on the federal level, although I think that is undeniable. Maybe they will reconsider spending a little extra on local taxes.
Nobody is saying this. Repeating this is propaganda.
They're saying it all over bluesky.
I keep seeing people expressing their horror at comments like that but I haven't seen any actual comments like that. Of course, I only see a tiny fragment of the social media world. I do say this: people who elected climate change deniers and voted for Project 2025 made this inevitable.
It’s not justified. But it was foreseeable. Which makes it inevitable unless Texans change course.
Nobody is saying that.
Actually, people *are* saying that.
However, it must be said that doge under djt has made the social safety net, that would assist these bereaved people, (almost) non-existant (FEMA). It was surprising that djt declared a disaster zone, though idk where the funding would from. Question whether he would do the same for a blue state.
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You are liar I never saw anyone wrote that
If they're saying it, I can't find it on Bsky. I've searched several permutations of, "texas deserves it," ideas on Bsky, even using outside search engines, and I haven't turned up anything here. I'd love to see where the hype's coming from though. I haven't checked other social media yet.
Agreed. I am praying for them and hope to stop future tragedies like this in the future by re-instating our NOAA.
Not seen anyone on my timeline saying anything like that… I must have pruned it well
I think a lot of people are missing the point of this particular cruelty, cut the NWS and NOAA, and the insurance companies owed by the Mega Rich don’t have to pay out. I’m convinced that is the bottom line.
Agree!!!
Except the fact is that they did die because of everyone who voted for Trump. And destroying the guards to prevent such a tragedy wasn’t an accident, it was intentional and this is the result. They just didn’t think it would be THIER children who were harmed.
Just because the MAGA crowd will cheerfully blame us all for everything, doesn’t mean that we should join them in the pigsty. We pride ourselves on being better. These were still people, kids. We should not rejoice in their deaths or cite karma. We need to do better.
Elections matter. Those who paid attention knew this was going to happen. We also know it won't be the last time.
I personally haven't seen anyone say deaths are 'justified' because of votes - but that votes have terrible consequences, like climate change, budget cuts, school shootings, and concentration camps. And we know this to be true.
Very well said
In 1987 a similar flood occurred in the same area. Seems like a shared failure that protocols/systems were not in place to warn residence. Monthly,here in coastal Alaska we have tsunami siren warning tests. We haven’t had a death since 1964. “Fool me once….” Demand better for the sake of society.
Residents. Damn.
Ten died in the 1987 flood, it also happened at night. The weather alerts and forecasts were excellent and up to the minute when I lived in Texas.
Pointing out the maddening decades long idiocy of red state republican voters actively choosing politicians that act against their own best interests is not the same as “justifying” these deaths. Not by a long shot. People need to wake the hell up or these tragedies will get worse and be constant.
Hope she feels the same way when her kid is being bullied FOR BEING VACCINATED by these people's "kids". Or her newborn dies bc these fktards WON'T vaccinate. Or like me, loses BOTH parents 2 years apart bc they can't breath in a mask unless they're kidnapping people...
Exactly! The purity politics & self-righteous virtue signaling is so gross. Stating that we cheer for the deaths of children because we hold no sympathy or empathy for MAGA adults who are directly responsible for their deaths is grotesque and the divisiveness appears intentional. Highly suspect.
Almost every “big” politics account I follow has posted a similar admonition and I have literally not seen one single person “gloating” or cheering for the deaths of innocent people based on how they voted.
I’m not a big account and I have seen it several times…maybe I need a better curated timeline.
you seriously haven't seen anyone say "you get what you vote for?" because i've seen it at least 5 times there's a link in this thread to a gofundme full of hateful comments, perhaps you should take a look
I haven’t and if I did I would say those people are dicks. Most of us are pointing out the facts of the situation, and that is that republican politicians are responsible for these deaths and their constituents should stop fucking electing them.
obviously i agree that people need to stop electing republicans who hate government services (and it's a shame this even has to be said)
"those people are dicks" literally exactly what OP is saying
Yep. And I said I hadn’t seen anyone explicating taking joy in this tragedy. If you have, then they are indeed dicks.
*explicitly. Dammit @bsky.app please add an edit button.
You do get what you vote for. That is not the same as celebrating. It's stating the consequences of actions. It's still a tragedy, but one that could have been prevented by the adults.
again, the children in question could not vote
Which is why the children are not being told that they got what they voted for. Their parents are.
They are showing us they intend to be passive and impotent just like Schumer and friends. They have no teeth to hold anyone truly accountable for these horrors. It's telling. I hope most on the left can see through it or we'll have more Jill Stein situations in 2026 and 2028.
www.nbcnews.com/now/video/me...
No one is justifying it. We're placing BLAME where it belongs... On DOGE and tRump
It's not "justified" but it's the result of the voter's insanity. Actions have consequences, conservatives need to learn that. Maybe they won't stay conservative.
What is wrong with us? How did we become haters of each other? Empathy is required, not a goal but a necessity. Just like character. If you have no empathy you have no character.
It’s a tragedy. Trump and Musk have blood on their hands.
On Elon's site they say that God saved Trump from assassination. Don't we have the right to ask them why God saved a convicted felon and adjudicated sexual assaulter and killed these children? MAGA needs to answer for their hypocrisy.
It’s not justified but likely true. Plus Christian Right used to say that the hurricanes hit LA because of all the gays. Say it all over TV. I understand what you are saying so I think we all just call the TX Governor and ask what he’s gonna do about it- he’ll say NOTHING
You’re absolutely right!! But parents should exhaust every search for a pedo camp like Dick eastmans boys camp La junta. The lawsuits are online
Dick Eastland - sorry
Wanna be a martyr taking your grievances out on Trump? It's your thing. Make fun of Melania, or MAGA podcasters with COVID begging for vaccines. I understand. But if you joke about these kids, then be FAR away from me. Sick and heartless has NO party here.What infects them won't infect us!😡
Exactly! If you say that you are also part of the problem.
But I respectfully ask will children dying in Texas change how their parents vote?
Nope
School shootings abound... how's that effected voting? Many Republican voters have a critical thinking deficit, and everyone is going to pay.
Just like with shootings- no. Not at all.
Unfounded hate for the Black/Indian Kamala was stronger in MAGA than their ability to grasp that she was by far the competent choice.
I had a white hot rage moment about this yesterday. I wish I had your composure.
I haven’t heard that yet. I better not hear that. It’s not their fault they have stupid ass parents.
"Woke" = "NOT an asshole, just for the sake of being an asshole"
Agreed. But the public deserves honest answers as to why this tragedy occurred.
I don’t see people saying that.
That’s weird because there are many people doing it
Then call them out for it.
Already there, Barb
Isn’t that what you’re indirectly bitching about?
No. You missed my point. Seems we are all against anyone justifying kids dying. I’m seeing people creating the impression it’s happening, but I haven’t seen it actually happening. (I guess I only follow decent people.) I’m only saying, you see people doing this, call them out directly.
Or block them and suck the oxygen out of it which may be why you aren’t seeing it.
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Well there’s also the Georgia woman running for congress peddling a sick and disgusting conspiracy theory that the floods are supposedly fake. Truly a very sad day when individuals sacrifice the dignity of others for their own popularity. Jess I am with you and agree, such character is sad.
For heaven’s sake, she shouldn’t be allowed to run for office until she’s in the floodwater trying to rescue the missing girls that are hopefully still out there.
There is always a group of right wing nuts that make such claims... normally around mass shootings
She said the floods were real, but created by the government as part of a land grab for a pet industry.
Ahhh thanks for clarifying. I knew there was something in there that would clarify the character of this individual to earn her 15 minutes.
I'm not proud of this, but any time Trumpers specifically bring up cloud seeding and planes, I've been retorting that Trump and Elon defunded the FAA and got rid of a bunch of air traffic controllers. I just want to see what their response is, ok?
How the fuck can she call floods fake? Has no one called her out on that?
Maga =stupid
Did the media really call anyone out about immigrants eating cats and dogs, or for that matter Alligator Alcatraz. They are practicing Yellow Journalism.
Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse, Alaska has floated the idea of a Bear Alcatraz. maga is sick in the head. www.newsweek.com/alaska-bear-...
You just can't make this crap up.
We live in a fucking christian nationalist reality tv show.
She is a Republican.
Same way you can call survivors of mass shootings “crisis actors”
Of course she has...but not by MAGA.
Based on a prior post that showed screenshots of what her claim is, it’s a lot of what MTG says, libs are seeding clouds causing more rain and storms to push a liberal climate change agenda. Therefore storms are fake bc they aren’t natural.
I swear she just hears random things in briefings and it just lodges in her brain. I think it was the saudis who weaponized cloud seeding when the houthis were kicking up fuss(I know, I'm simplifying). They forced/intensified a drought by getting clouds to dump rain before crossing the border.
Probably spacing out in one of those briefings weather talk snapped out of her stupor and that's all she remembers. Now just assumes that EVERYONE can do it anywhere anytime. Same with the space lasers, probably just a briefing that mentioned research about orbital weapons and just too dumb.
What brain?
Have you seen how the media works these days? Litarally all of MAGA simply speaks obvious lies and nobody calles them out on it.
right? like, um... can you look outside a sec for me ? 👀
Sadly even when called out they dig in & their maggot followers continue spreading the absolute lies! These people are high on power & care nothing about truth at the expense of other peoples lives.
They deny a river can rise 26 ft in 45 minutes while believing the entire world became flooded in 40 days.
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Maybe this will help explain it- they literally believe us “libtards” control the weather
I see this all over Facebook and Twitter.
I have seen them too. It’s disgusting
Yes.. MAGA gets constantly called out for their BS, but they just keep on spewing it!! 🤨 Faux news being the perfect excuse example..
umm, MAGAts absolutely do NOT get called out 'constantly' on their BS Turn on ANY show with a maggot on it and watch them lie while never being corrected and/or asked to prove their claim. Aaaaany of the Sunday 'news' shows will do.
Which GA woman is this?? JFC they’re bat shit crazy in that state
What in the AF is wrong with these morons? People don't die in fake weather disasters.
They're this close to saying they were crisis actors, just like they do after school shootings. They don't mind causing people anguish as long as they make money off of it.
Last I heard, she was blaming weather modification for the Texas flash flooding. By Democrats, I guess.
MTG introduced a bill to make it illegal to control the weather, I believe that happened.
Yeah I just saw it today. Believe the intent is to make cloud seeding or geoengineering a felony.
Absolutely. Regardless of whether you voted for Trump - no one deserves to pay such a price.
It’s not justified, but it is caused by. It’s not only important to learn from our mistakes, but it’s important to point out to the people who voted for that catastrophe to police their own party.
But that’s exactly what they voted for. Let’s not be pedantic.
There’s this gross misconception out there that criticism of policy = cheering for dead kids or blaming them for their deaths. No, that’s when you take the tragic death of Laken Reily to justify deporting innocent people to foreign gulags.
the babies and children and counselors and families camping are the only innocents on this. those in positions of responsibility are those in positions of governance. and those in governance who’ve decided flash flood warning on a river with a record of catastrophic deadly flooding is not needed
And the alligator Alcatraz was built with the intent to murder the detained through hurricanes. Shouldn't we call that out more or do we wait for an actual hurricane to kill innocent people before we fight for their lives?!!!
Kids don’t vote, which is why we need to vote with their health and safety in mind. For ALL kids.
Who is using the word justified?
As for some of the children who have died in TX from measles, their parents said it was Gods will in an interview. I’m just wondering if this flood is gods will too? Science be damned.
Texan here…that is absolutely how it will be treated - “God called them home”.
OMG, people aren’t saying that, are they? That’s despicable. Imagine the fear those children were feeling? Tragedy’s involving children always makes me think of Sandy Hook and Uvalde, their fear and need for their parents must have been horrific. 😢
If they are, I can't find anyone on Bsky saying it. I've searched several permutations of, "texas deserves it," ideas on Bsky, even using outside search engines, and I haven't turned up anything here. I'd love to see where the hype's coming from though. I haven't checked other social media yet.
I’ve actually seen it several times…it’s disgusting…
OMG! That’s abhorrent. Sick people.
Put these people on blast so we know to isolate them out of interaction here. It's my belief that, overall, Bsky's community is trying to do and be better than that. I wonder, then, how much of what you've seen are bots, trolls, and detractors.
It’s probably X, I only have Bluesky now. I’m not supporting millionaires/billionaires by supporting their platforms.
Finally finished assessing. It's mostly Facebook with some spillover into X and Reddit, but it's not here.
Those are Russian bots, or x bots trying to discredit Dems.
I'm not a Democrat myself, but I do stand in solidarity with my Democrat allies against Drumpf. It's one thing to have constructive criticism of the party. It's another to cause division. Propaganda bots can suck it.
This is the thing. Constructive criticism is what's needed and support. Thank you.
It's my pleasure. Division is what got us where we are, and the fascists used it expertly. We can go back to lovingly calling each other extremists and centrists like siblings when we've wrested the government from them. Until then, we need to team up on what we agree about. (Btw, I was... 1/
...was cracking a joke about what the far left and dedicated Dems like to call each other. I hope it was taken in good humor. 😅) /2
I hear you, and (!) you are quite right. The problem on the left, center left, and middle with the Dems has been the terrible circular firing squad we get into. Solidarity is required especially now. Then we need vigilance to never let the fascists in again.
I think Cancun Cruz agrees with this.
no one has said this.
The death of these kids in on whoever didn’t think it was a good idea to send out flash flood warnings to everyone’s phones.
The website said there were no phones or cell phones allowed, and it was 8 minutes until the flooding became a catastrophe. Why even have a camp in a flood zone!?
Here is a pretty damning article on how local politicians completely dropped the ball. www.nytimes.com/2025/07/06/u...
Any camp banning phones from staff and leadership for safety reasons alone is gross malpractice. I’m not buying that flash floods occur in 8 minutes, predicting weather has come a LONG way in the last decade.
That is an excellent point. My house was flooded when Hurricane AGNES devastated areas of PA & NY in June 1972. My property was declared in a flood zone. A commercial project I wanted to do was denied because of the designation in a floor zone. But different states regulate zoning I am sure.
It's a girl's camp. It's Texas. Do the math...
Being better has gotten us corporate democrats and a Trump administration. They made the choice to endanger their children when voting for someone who said he wanted to gut the system. If we are bringing a fake magical man in the sky into this conversation, its gods will they all died.
I haven't seen that. I've seen people saying this is what MAGA voted for. I think most people are heart broken by this tragedy. I am. Those children deserve adults in their lives who believe in science & mitigating the effects of humans on the environment. This IS the result of MAGA policies.
I am sad about the tragedy., unimaginable. If per chance they r MAGA then I am out of sympathy for them but sad for loss of all lives. If MAGA, they voted to disrupt a million lives many Xs over& disregard for humans. The event is tragic…it a fact & it ends there.Families deserve factual answers.
Families won't be getting factual answers. This regime lies and lies and lies.
Who has said that?
Just like parents who don't want to give their children the measles shot, I blame the parents that voted for Trump. They voted for evil that destroyed FEMA and the weather organizations that report on the weather. The blood of those children are on their hands.
Agreed
Makes me so mad 😡
I’m a fucking asshole, and I wouldn’t even say that. The kids don’t deserve it, and the parents don’t either. Voting differently than me doesn’t mean your kids should die.
I'd really like to know where such things are being said b/c I'm not seeing it-- and if so- are they trolls b/c it sounds like troll behavior?
Show me where that's being said. ????
No one says it is justified. We just say "wish you would have listened.You would have been spared the heartbreak". It's never "justified"....it's the cause.
liberals love dehumanizing people, just like they do with palestinians
No one is saying that. Unless I’ve just missed it. I’ve seen lots of, “this is what happens when you get what you voted for.” And it is horrific. But the truth needs to be spoken.
I agree with you, it’s wrong to say …but so much worse will happen in the next few years and you’ll never guess which voters will refuse to take responsibility for what they’ve wrought. Hell, they’d refight a civil war if they could and still bring confederate flags to the battle 🤷🏾♂️
But don’t worry. They’ll blame Democrats for everything and so will self flagellating Democrats
I believe you have the wrong social media app for this dear
I surely never heard anyone saying that. NOBODY deserves to lose a child. Only families who have survived that pain can even guess how hard that is.
That's horrible. Hate isn't helpful. No compassion. Come on! That's not a liberal value!
At least some of those posts are likely bots instigators stirring up trouble.
Judge not, hon.
No certainly not. I wonder what would be going on if it were a camp for the LGBTQIA families
I have not seen one person post something like that- that drownings were "justified"- on X maybe?
I haven’t seen anyone being gleeful about this. What they are saying applies to their parents who keep recklessly voting for these callous greed monsters, just to own the libs when the villains are the ones they voted for.
What, someone actually said that?
Notably, Elon himself funded ($100mil) a scam w bots pretending to be Democrats to funnel people to a MAGA website and get them to hate Dems www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10...
Doesn't seem so, no. This appears to be fake outrage.
ruzna in blue sky
I see...
Sorry, I've been following russia's horror on Ukraine and the failure of the USA to deliver allocated defense materials, let alone Gaza and I just don't have any empathy left. choose love
I don't think anyone feels it's "justified" by any means. More so just pissed that these horrible losses were most likely preventable. People are pointing this out so others are aware that their actions have consequences and these lives are more than just "collateral damage" from owning the libs
But somehow, us not CAUSING the death of their children, like they did, makes US the bad guy... They're also killing OUR children but, meh, it's to be expected🙄
i have seen several people comment "you get what you vote for" in response to the deaths (of children)
Excuse me. Babies? When I went to sleep away camp in Texas I was 11. It doesn’t help to minimize this at all. And that’s what you’re doing. Be better.
I'm in San Antonio one hour away from all that. Who's being a ass my wife went to those camps when she was a kid back in the 60s and 70s
Those who died in the floods are humans caught in a corrupt and authoritarian government who valued more money for billionaires over their lives. These families deserved better and we need to rally behind them. It does not matter who they voted for. Our future depends on the power of compassion.
You are the first I have heard say it. If they had been shot to death (this is Texas) should be be silent about guns?
In response to a post by Ron Filipowski (sp?). He was angry and said something to the affect of "you happy kids are dead, this is what you voted for". Not in great taste, sure. The sheer loss of life, with so many of them being children emotions are running very high. Things may be taken wrong 🙇♀️
> emotions are running very high As they should be. I'd be more worried if people were just going about their business, saying nothing. Those kids deserved better. So did their parents, no matter how they voted. This is not the "more perfect union" our founders hoped we would build.
Well you're all supporting this level of death every day in Gaza and totally saying nothing and going about your business. So it's still selective outrage.
Who is supporting that? I don’t think anyone outside of MAGA is-
Biden started it, Trump is continuing it. Harris didn't say she would stop it. The whole country supports it with your everyday silence. Opposing Genocide was supposed to be a red line. Now, everyone in the USA just pretends they're not doing it when there are US mercenaries shooting starving people
Hold up... Biden wasn't president when I was born and that shits been going on for AT LEAST 55 years. Try again. Get religion out of the region and you'll have a start... Until then... Tots n pears
The last President to stand up to Israel was Reagan when they were slaughtering Shi'as in Lebanon, causing the creation of Hezbollah.
i don't know how to tell you this but there is a massive american movement against the genocide
Oh yeah. Where is that? 4 Congress people? Banned protests and nobody does anything. Or is it like the anti-Vietnam-War movement where it's just so Americans can say later that they opposed it when really 80% are voting for parties committing war crimes. It's a national shame.
i do however very much agree it is a national shame. a global shame, truly, but america is most to blame
my point is that people are taking action. some of us are not in denial. the argument of whether we are doing enough is another matter (one which i'd rather not debate here because i have already debated it three thousand times; tldr we are a very sick, exhausted, addicted & overworked nation)
We didn't even get a primary for Harris. It's somrwhat rich to equate you average citizen with their leaders who have disproportionate power.
The amount of absolute fucking ghouls in this comment section is astonishing.
I mean, who’s saying that?
This is a shitty truth but there is direct cause and effect here. I hate this for them, but it’s fair to suggest it was avoidable by not electing those who want to hurt “other” people. What’s it going to take for ~them~ to be better? To understand that caring for all is the only thing to vote for?
I understand how you feel. There's more there -- this area nearly always floods. Why is a camp for children there? And, in order to move toward a "more perfect union," we need to step away from judgment & focus on supporting families/ those suffering like we would our idiot son who crashed the car
If my idiot son voted for someone who took away traffic lights and got t-boned as a consequence, I would make sure he was ok, then, 100% point out the cause and effect at play. As it happens I’m a parent of a teen boy, and he has been taught many lessons about natural consequences in my care.
And no, this post is not about parenting. It’s about pragmatism and teaching when consequences need pointing out. Just as my original response was not about my feelings.
You're making my point. People can be idiots, not understand cause and effect (developmental task of a 7 year old), and they are still our fellow citizens. We can have compassion as they wrestle with their consequences.
That’s actually my precise point as well. Thing is, the people who are being shittier about it are also correct: this was a direct consequence of their votes. It bears mentioning that the same people being shittier are very angry, and with good reason. They need compassion too.
I know this anger and react out of it sometimes. I need to focus on compassion as that's the only road forward. In the end, it's just us.
It’s just us. ✊
Amen.