Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Do you want to have bezoars? Because that's how you get bezoars.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Do you want to have bezoars? Because that's how you get bezoars.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Fingers crossed!
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Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
A new meaning to the phrase "a competitive primary"
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Oh, for the time when this was the punchline to a joke, not a thing people paid real money for. youtu.be/4ZK8Z8hulFg
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I don't know whether I'm relieved or saddened he didn't come back with dicta from Schenck.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
TL;DR: I don't think there is a technical solution that would add the kind of guardrails needed to a product that is trying to sell the illusion of an intelligent, reasoning, knowledgeable machine. And late stage capitalism is the reason why people are trying to sell that illusion.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Yep. That and things where a moderate rate of errors is totally okay. But things that need expert review, or are low stakes are... well, they already work well enough and don't allow the promise of "we will disrupt this 4 Billion dollar industry and allow you to lay off 75% of your staff".
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I think that this current type of "Generative AI" as they currently exist have some useful cases, but those are ones that broadly were working before we started throwing the power consumption of medium sized nations to eke out minimal improvements. But what is drawing investment is mostly total BS.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
If you think "AI" chat programs should be banned if they can't do this, you think all currently "AI" chat programs should be de facto banned. And like, I'm not going to argue against that. From my non-expert understanding of the law, that's an abstract moral debate, not a practical one.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I apologize for the misunderstanding. I am not defending the uses of this tech or the companies. I am stating that this kind of requirement cannot be implemented at 100% accuracy on LLM technology (and if it could be, the same breakthroughs would make the technology far more useful).
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
It is not easy to guarantee it never discusses a subject. If it was easy to do that, the technology would be a lot more useful for all the things its boosters claim it can do. You would need *true* understanding of text to get the controls you want. Which doesn't exist in software.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Yeah. Anyone claiming these LLMs can reason or understand anything is full of it, that's not how they are built, and it's not what they do. The tech, by design, can never be 100% accurate and factual, and that is also why it can never be 100% sure it isn't outputting forbidden subjects.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
It is not alive, but the output is probabilistic, and no programmer (or group of them) has direct ability to force ou5 certain subjects. And any rule evaluating if it is discussing a forbidden subject is likewise probabilistic. A formal list of banned terms is likewise going to miss some euphemisms
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Back in the early 2000s, the courts told Napster they would be liable for every piece of pirated music that made it through the filters they were putting in place, which was not (and never could) be possible to a 100.00% success rate, and that's why peer to peer Napster never came back.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I am quite confident if the makers of these synthetic text extrusion machines could lock it down to make sure this couldn't happen, they would, without needing any law to tell them to because this is devastating to the bubble they are trying to maintain.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Regardless of whether or not such a thing should be done, with this kind of generative AI it is literally not possible to ensure that -- any more than they could add code to make sure it never makes up fake information. It's a probabilistic text machine, that's just how it works.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Probably a decent parallel as well in that any and all media and general populace discussion of the case will be entirely unrelated to the actual facts, law, and resolution involved.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Not a lawyer, but I suspect a key distinction is the part where he was arrested, prosecuted, and convicted of specific crimes.
rahaeli (@rahaeli.bsky.social) reposted reply parent
You are wrong legally, you are wrong practically, you are wrong pragmatically, you are wrong constitutionally, you are wrong in effect, you are wrong in application, you are wrong pedagogically, you are wrong technically, and you are wrong ideologically. You are simply wrong.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Same. Not only do they not think it's weird, but dear gods don't screw up and say "[kid name]'s parents" about someone with a single parent, or any incorrect gender assumptions about someone's parents. Getting "what are you, stupid?" corrections from a full class of five year-olds stings.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
My daughter's school pre-school had a really wide variety of families, with number of parents varying from one to three, in all sorts of gender configurations. Never saw any of the kids get confused, but boy would they let an adult know if they said "mom and dad" about someone with same sex parents.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Which is ironic, kids are more capable of understanding it than a lot of adults seem to be. "Not all families are the same", done. If the kid is older and asking logistics, "Lots of ways, and they don't need to explain if they don't want. But sometimes women will ask a friend to help them with it"
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
As someone who is approximately an atheist, I don't think I could really argue against the strictest interpretation of what they said here, although I find it unnecessarily specific. But I strongly suspect the original author wouldn't appreciate my reasons for agreement.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
When "encouragement" and "egging someone on" are *truly* synonyms.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I'd certainly not push my luck with a pen I had a sentimental attachment to. While I love my Preppies (and have too many of the Wa designs), I love the concept of them more than any individual pen. If I wreck one with neglect or poor choices, that's absolutely fine, now I've learned their limits.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Actually, I'm pretty sure that's not even a joke. It's certainly not worse for the wear, and comparing my initial ink log entry to how it writes today than I remember it working when I first inked it up last year, I think it's better. I did pull the nib out and rinse it off once. Preppy's rule.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Rinse out iron gall at the end of the day, right. Yes. Of course. That's the only sensible thing to do. *nervously eyes the Preppy on my desk that I inked with R&K Scabiosa last September* The nib isn't slowly dissolving, it's just increasing the channel width for a wetter flow in a Preppy 02/EF!
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Yeah Teranishi is awesome. I got the Set F calendar, and their Brilliant Mint has been my daily planner go to for like a month now. The only previous Teranishi I had also came through Enigma, albeit in person at a pen show. Their Opera Rose is gorgeous, although closer to a Potter's Pink, IMO.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Yeah, I got into them a lot more recently, and my path was looking for more refillable/customizable brush pens (I.e., coming from Tombow, Faber-Castell Pitt, Kuretake's confusing lineup, etc.). Thinking about use with watercolors landed me unfortunately deep in Noodler's to start.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
In practice, that means over the two years, my new inks have been from one of Birmingham, The Wet Pen, Troublemaker, or Colorverse. That or were part of the Enigma Stationery Inkvent set. In some cases, the same in both. But getting The Wet Pen dupes just felt nice to me, about both Enigma and TWP.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I'm sure a lot of my preferences were formed based on the first bottle of ink I got that really satisfied me for a given shade or niche of ink. Herbin didn't wow me early on, and now I've got enough coverage for every purpose a new ink really needs to stand out somehow for me to be interested.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
If Midori made general notebooks with their Cotton paper (instead of just a few blank books and blank pads) I'm sure I'd like it even better -- the Cotton is better at resisting hand oils than the standard MD, and wonder if that might help with stamps/dirt as well.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Oof, I don't use stamps so haven't run into that :/ I've gotten into making my own notebooks which means I get away with format/binding/paper combos that are exactly my preference. Otherwise, I would probably land on MD as best compromise, and their clean and minimalist design is in my sweet spot.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
The non-premium paper is decent, but thinner and enough ghosting to be touch and go using both sides -- but spiral bound means I just flip everything over reporter pad style, and now I have a desk pad I can use for tracking work projects. But wouldn't say any of that is for enjoyment of using it.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Yeah, I'd never use one for journaling. Maruman Mnemosyne is great for work meeting notes for me, and I'm still working through a ten-pack of their A7 notepads for "tuck into pen case" on the go. I've used their non-premium ones too, like this B5 (turned on side). vanness1938.com/products/mar...
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Oh I so get that impulse too. If I had the time and was feeling like answering someone like that at all, I'm sure that's where I'd go. But that video confirms to me that "nope, not engaging your premise at all" looks pretty satisfying too.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
But based on thinking "Herbin stands for making shareholders money" I know that is true of plenty of other products I love. So, I'll keep buying Herbin as much as my enjoyment of their inks warrants... which to date, has been "not very much enjoyment at all". So moot point for me personally anyway.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
There's just not a "there" there to really have a point of view. Which is, in and of itself, a quality one can consider when thinking about where to spend their entertainment/hobby money. I wasn't even aware Herbin was part of a huge group until I dug in looking at it.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Yeah. And Herbin (J. Herbin? however they are branding it now) is part of the Exacompta Clairefontaine group, which is publicly traded, has 50 companies under it, etc. Which is to say, Herbin doesn't stand for anything, good or bad, really, and never really can do so under current capitalist rules.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Maruman Mnemosyn I would also have in the ballpark of your top three in terms of performance (dry time, low feathering/bleedthrough, showing ink character), and has been good in my experience for low ghosting. The paper feel is more Apica smooth than Midori soft, in my opinion. And lots of layouts.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Life as being similar to Apica Premium I can get behind -- I think it is a bit more ghosting/bleedthrough resistant though, and rank it slightly higher. They don't do dot grid though, which is my favorite style.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I haven't tried all the papers you mention, but your rankings are very much in line with mine for the ones I have tried. Midori MD Cotton is probably my absolute favorite. It behaves much like the standard MD but has a bit more feedback and better texture (very exact and specific, I know).
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
But at the very least it suggests to me that they aren't invested in defending reactionaries or standing for things beyond "our stuff is pretty, please buy it" which is... well the default assumption, really. Makes me appreciate the stationery brands and creators who take good, affirmative stances.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
It's certainly possible they took it down because they were getting negative/controversial comments on it, and not because they cared about why -- I'd suspect if people were making noise about them for partnering with a trans creator (like Bud Light/Mulvaney) they'd probably react similarly.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Not defending them or saying what I think one should make of it, but I was curious, and this is what I could find. If there was a closer partnership, it's been deleted since. It does sound like other brands that had done anything promotional with her did a better/prompter job of severing, for sure.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I missed this at the time, but doing a bit of digging on tumblr and instagram, all that I can see that is still up is on the influencer's side, and that is a single "partnering with Herbin to give away one bottle of ink". Checking Herbin at that time frame, they no longer have any reference to it.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Their center of gravity is way too high when filling, the opening too narrow, and even on the shelf which seems to be where they are designed to look best, the cap is extra heavy and they tip over at the slightest provocation. When I do use the ones I have, it's blunt-nosed syringe only for filling.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I would put FWP in the category of caution required on the functional end of things, regardless of business ethics. I've not seen anything that suggests their inks are misrepresented, but the from trying several that were passed on by a friend, they are truly a menace to fill from, even when full.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
A baseless myth, spread by the Fountain-Pens-You-Already-Have lobby. Ironic how the new pens you will acquire to fight that lobby instantly join it upon acquisition, making this a never ending battle.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Yeah, the instinct to at least start as if the other person was approaching things in good faith is so strong. But such a great demonstration of the fact that asking someone to defend the indefensible isn't necessary -- the "find/jesus" tiktokker is not here to be persuadable.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I had no context, and had just seen the classic "Would you push the button?" video, so I assumed that it was a skit as well -- the over the top "pronouns: find/jesus" shirt, all of that. It wasn't until the zoom in on the stimming that I realized "oh shit, jesus guy is sincere and *he* posted it"
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
And it's not even a judgement based on approval/disapproval of what they are saying. Even if I don't want to listen to them, there are plenty of shows/channels whose professed beliefs and goals are at least in partial alignment with mine. And ones I despise as well, but I know who their audience is.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Right. There are plenty of podcasts and media producers I have heard a ton about, despite never listening to them, and having no interest in listening to. But they are influential enough that their work can't help but be referenced by the sources I do respect and follow. This ain't one of them.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Clearly, he was faced with the premise that the only options were to either read the piece and say nothing, or to condescendingly scold you for what he imagined was in the piece without reading it.
A.R. Moxon (@juliusgoat.bsky.social) reposted
Today I wrote about a general tendency to accept atrocious premises, and the need to reject fascism's false choices in order to find expansive and imaginative paths forward. Breaking the premise, embracing the obstacles, pursing everything. www.the-reframe.com/there-is-no-...
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
In all fairness, I think politics has been that way long before the invention of Al Gore's Internet.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Let us also forget that the Republicans who ran on "my opponent wants to 'defund the police'" said so whether or not their opponent had explicitly denounced the phrase or not. And plenty of Dems did do the exact distancing asked for here and lost anyway.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Mocking, dunking, pointing out hypocrisy, etc. all can feel good to do, and to see others doing -- but it's a morale/motivation builder for people who agree with you. But it definitely doesn't show to me someone who is going to bring more people in as supporters.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Oh, I like them. I just look at them as "these are for people who already agree strongly", and not remotely evidence that this is going to persuade or shift outside that group. Trump in particular is such an extreme where the traits we mock him for are often literally traits his fans celebrate.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social)
I think that I'm pretty in the "too much" zone of consuming politics content, and am working to dial that back. But I'm skeptical that I've been so successful at it to literally never heard of a media empire that is "beating Fox News right now." I'm all for some rhetorical hyperbole, but come on.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Looking at quote posts, I was surprised to not see more of this sentiment. It *could* be that I somehow missed the rise of a left-wing media empire taking in ~$15B a year. Such claims of importance ring hollow when self-proclaimed. If one is really that influential, other people say it for them.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
It reminds me of the "Oh look how the Lincoln Project guys 'nailed Trump' with this ad they made and aired once but then shared on Facebook!" vibes.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Even if he switched parties, and even if he had a while ago, as a Californian he would have the steepest of hills to climb against Trump's demonization of the state.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Depends what kind of fire. A Tesla battery fire, even they basically have to just let it burn itself out.
Sooz Kempner (@soozuk.bsky.social) reposted
Seeing people in the US of States glazing Newsom's dank memes and being all "Gavin slayyyy" is giving Starmer Fever 2024 and, American pals, it's equally embarrassing to witness.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
You know Elon didn't rig anything successfully, because there is no way he could have stopped himself from bragging about it repeatedly and in full detail.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Ah, I see. I wasn't aware that reading this was making my experience worse, I mistakenly found it interesting to see what people with influence in my industry are saying about a subject I'm concerned about, and to see it without having give Twitter any clicks myself. Glad I know better now.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
But even if it is getting people to donate significantly more to organizations doing actual work, which is hard to quantify, saying that directly is saving hundreds of thousands of lives seems like a stretch to me as well. I credit those organizations, not the foundation reviewing them.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
That's a charity that, to my knowledge, doesn't directly do live saving work, but is a charity that encourages donations to the charities it claims will be the most effective. It's not intuitively obvious to me that his organization necessarily increases overall charitable funding. /1
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I will confess to not being familiar with MacAskill, but I'm curious what work he has done that has saved hundreds of thousands of lives? I feel that's not something a lot of people can credibly claim to have done, especially outside the domain of medical research -- and that's teams of people.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
With all due respect, no one forced you to read it here either.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Hell in a lot of parts, the people who took over were sure as hell repairing the roads too -- and during certain times of Roman rule the emperors weren't. After all, if you're the Lombard Kings, the reason you wanted to conquer Italy was in no small part the wealth and commerce those roads enabled.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Which is not to take away at all for all the valid "Can you call it a 'fall' if the capital of Rome was a center of wealth, culture, trade, and all the Imperialist bullshit that goes with that for another millennium after the 'fall' of Rome?" and accompanying "Yes, and then the Romans spoke Greek"
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Darn it, *this* particular pedant was hoping the asterisk was going to hit on questions of whether the Sea Peoples really were a thing, let alone a cause of the Late Bronze Age collapse, versus the way 19th century colonial people require an "Other" in any explanation of Imperial periods ending.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Well, given the standard is "don't sell unpasteurized milk for human consumption" there are some fundamental problems to overcome for the raw milk industry.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Like for crying out loud, it only takes holding the temp at 72C for 15 seconds to get it safely pasteurized, and you can do that on your stovetop (sterilize tools though!) What healthy things do they think are destroyed by doing this? Because the pathogens are obvious. www.idfa.org/pasteurization
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I had a friend with backyard goats, and I often got gallons of raw milk from them... for the express purpose of fresh cheesemaking, and of course first step is freaking pasteurizing the stuff myself. If you think UHT kills the flavor, the tables for how long is required at lower temps are there!
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Not alone at all. But it can feel that way with so many people loudly scolding us, saying refusal to lavish praise on the bad narcissist right now is why a worse narcissist will win in three years.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I never say this, but I think this may be the rare use case where "AI art" is the more ethical choice. Because good gods there is no way any human artist should ever be forced to make that cursed image without an order of magnitude more compensation than they would have gotten.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social)
While I appreciate the good trolling response, it still doesn't make the first thing being posted by Newsom's team any less terrible... I don't care about "blasphemy", I'm just disturbed by anyone who sees such an image of themselves and thinks "yeah, that's worth sharing with the world"
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Heck, if one is so convinced that leftists criticizing Dems is what costs elections, why not try the experiment of running someone who doesn't treat whole groups of people as strategically disposable. Otherwise it just sounds like they don't like reminders of who they're willing to abandon.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I am baffled how the centrist scold holds both the idea that throwing trans people under the bus is a key strategic move worth doing to win, but also that pointing out they are doing it is what costs Dema elections. If it's what "the people" want, criticism from the left should only help, no?
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I'm glad I'm not able to put myself in his shoes far enough to figure out what he must think looked tough about *that*.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Putin, having seen things like intervention in another country's democratic process? Perish the thought. Seriously, if you even think that in the wrong place in Moscow, you'll perish.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
In that case, hard to say if that means Trump would see it as a failure or the intended outcome.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Heck, it could have a draft of an email, because I presume Putin gets those off Trump's unsecured devices already.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
I'm hard pressed to figure out what version of "tough" involves looking star struck by Vladimir fucking Putin.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Sadly, his own supply of hot air kept him relatively buoyant, and he is expected to make a full recovery.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
... The *one* thing American cheese is good for is melting well. Putting it on cold... oh dear.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
My friend, I'm not sure what corners of the Upper Midwest you have and have not visited, so I would be careful being so optimistic.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
And its notable that not even the British are willing to utilize the classic American topping for such a mess, the ubiquitous green can of "grated" "parmesan" "cheese" (citation needed for all three terms).
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Sorry. I'm just always baffled by a product that claims to contain the fruit of the olive tree, but is processed until it no longer contributes flavor, texture, umami, nor even noticeable saltiness.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
The question is, do you wrap that in a slice of spongy, oddly square white "bread" or slap it in those strangely shelf stable for years taco shells? I'm thinking the "bread" doesn't even have structural integrity to lose, so it would basically be like flinging a handful of soup, so shell wins.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Don't forget pre-sliced black olives straight out of a can.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Well sure, but in that universe, de facto government by megacorporations would have started developing far earlier. I imagine their 2025 would have seen unaccountable, inhumane companies dictating what we learn, what we can do, and even who lives and dies. What a hellscape! /s for poe's law
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Given that everywhere he went in that area he was drawing protesters outside, and that restaurant had just gotten *good* publicity for hosting Kamala Harris... it seems like a pretty reasonable business decision to decline his reservation whether staff was upset or not.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Short answer: It's not. Long answer: Not needed, see the short answer.
Robert Brydon (@robertbrydon.bsky.social) reply parent
Sure. But they are having their own problems there in carrying Trump's water... the House is entirely shut down so as to avoid a vote that would pass to release unredacted Epstein files, whoops. www.cnn.com/2025/07/21/p...