So I do agree with you, it not nuanced. For me the context of it is in the General when it's too late to make changes to candidates. I would advocate for leaning left in the primaries and make centrists lean left. Although it's not without risk.
So I do agree with you, it not nuanced. For me the context of it is in the General when it's too late to make changes to candidates. I would advocate for leaning left in the primaries and make centrists lean left. Although it's not without risk.
It's interesting how you take that. When people say that, what I understand them to mean is "when it matters, vote blue no matter who it is" they are not giving a blanket statement to everyone but they are saying "keep the right out of power even if it means someone you don't particularly like".
Exactly. My concern is that this sort of chat suppresses the vote where it counts because it lacks nuance i.e. is a purity test
You can call them equivalent but they are not. I do get it, but it's about outcomes and one leads to A LOT worse IMO.
lo, yeah, maybe, but IMO the despair and "they are all the same" is voter suppression so I feel obliged to try to stop it
this thread also never mentioned country until I did so maybe you can account for the possibility it's not always all about yoo ess eh
We all live here when it's Trump in
It sucks that the coalition must be broad, I'm for proportional representation, but if you are in a FPTP system then the group you have to be part of is going to include a lot of people you don't like, unless you know how to bring the culture closer. You do them a favour by staying away.
You can think that the far right and the center are the same but they are not and to make them morally equivalent is to open the door to a load of additional suffering in the world
Care to elaborate? You don't like that account?
I hope that is true but if you look at the polling on young men and the split that is happening there, I am not convinced. So that's fine if what you say plays out NOW, but lets all be sure of our numbers before we start kicking people out the tent.
I dunno who you think I am but I would advocate for trying to build the largest possible group, strongly leaning progressive/left. However the distribution is something like this 1112789 You can't have all the 1's excluding each other from the group when the 7 + 8 + 9 just want to say "r*****"
It's a fair point but show me the political cause that didn't eventually implode. I'm not advocating for any specific group or movement. I'm advocating for political activity within existing structures and coalition building in order to actually get power and affect change. Apparently that's fascist
Interesting title, what's the pitch?
If they ever win. I just think there are a fuck load of people waaay out to the right there, closed minded older generation who ACTUALLY vote. I do think we should have more left wing candidates tho, I 100% agree on trying to primary people and get more left leaning people as candidates.
I'm not immune to that argument, I just think that when it comes to political strategy, I'm probably a hella less informed than the people whose full time job is assessing how to swing those votes. You might be right but it's a bit of a gamble/shot in the dark and I just disagree that it's worth it.
Are you bots?! So weird.
And your proof that this is not actually achieving better outcomes is what? I'm just saying that you need to think and vote tactically. It's hilarious how quickly everyone will jump and call me a fascist. Just totally proving my point really. You will alienate the people you need.
I'm pro trans-rights, anti-genocide, pro Ukraine, environmentalist, socialist. I live in a country that has a fuck load more of these things than USA and it's partly down to how I vote.
I'm pro all of these things.
Okay, I am glad you are making an actual argument, or very close to one. I take it you think that by staking out a more left-leaning policy position you would get another bloc of voters that would counterbalance the swing voters who decide the elections. What is that bloc you are talking about?
With Trump you get genocide *and* racism. If you are indifferent to all the ADDITIONAL suffering that having Trump as president then you are scum. I'm not pro-genocide, I am ANTI ANTI ANTI ANTI ANTI ICE.
Wait... what. Yes, exactly, it's about outcomes. You have to work strategically and vote tactically to get the outcomes you want. You have to build a coalition, by the very fact of MATH it will be a centrist coalition. We probably agree, where the center is right now is not best.
So what is your plan for how to change this? What path do you see as the way forward. My point is a simple one, you gotta build a big enough voting block to swing away from the current hellscape, Just trying to say don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
No, it totally is not, it's weird who you think you are arguing with. It's not me. I look at polling and I try to navigate to the best possible option. I am a member of a party and I try to influence it from within. This is how you change things. Not spit the dummy and toss the vote. You agree?
I swear to god this is some new form of Russian troll bots. There is this weird undercurrent of people who will just leap to calling you a genocidal anti-trans. I actually think they are trying to push people to the right.
The left having purity tests means that they refuse to work with or vote for people not completely aligned with themselves. They mean "hold your nose and vote for this person cause the stinking dumpster fire of the right is so much worse". It's acknowledging the problem of less than desirables.
look at my profile... it's so funny to me that you would all attack someone like me. You reject someone who suggests building a coalition for power. Bloop. There you have it.
Vote with your heart in the primary, head in the general. If you won't vote blue in the general, you know what you get? Red. Not deep blue, not green. It doesn't work the way you wish it did. It just doesn't. Are you a member of a party?
That is my favourite, when people are like "you are literally Hitler" because I'm a pragmatic leftie, who enjoys a baddie in a space opera.
Sigh, good intentions, I get ya but just... I dunno, read a newspaper or something
Righty-o, let's be having it. Which country you in, what's your coalition for power to ACTUALLY affect change? Show me the numbers and the plan for achieving what you want. Stop grandstanding, start trying to achieve.
You are a parody account I see
Not really, it's about trying to strive for realistically best outcomes for those people we all care about. You can kick and scream all you want but it won't change the fact that you will need a coalition for power and without power you can't do shit.
As a Scot, I will be very very very pro independence if Farage gets in. Which would be a change of heart. Had such hopes for Labour and those were really dashed.
He's also not an MP, makes it tough to attend parliament
It was load bearing hate, the moment he turned his thoughts inwards to think about his death the whole skull collapsed
He sounds nice. See, we need more real people in books. Good old folksy people who are nice. Now there is a story I'd read. I hope he came home with dinner and newspaper for everyone to read.
cracking barrel
p.s. you actually are the world's greatest writer, how TF you put these words together is beyond me but I LOVE IT
I'm thinking about starting a family and I think I'm gunna go full Kevlar, this sounds really appealing!
How you bean?
because it's made up
You'd be surprised how hard it is to get into riff raff these days
The energy of this painting is almost overwhelming. It makes me a little dizzy.
It's insane. More pretty than real life and really capturing that feeling :D
@down.blue
The people in his team know what's up, he's gettin a pretty good lift from them for sure!
That is a really arresting image! Very nice work
@down.blue
Well, I did mean it rather tongue in cheek but they have had a career in politics and must feel some tug of obligation... as did Swift.
I agree, she managed to santise/humanise herself on the way out but she was pretty radical. I think that figures such as herself should be out like Major is or else they should be assumed to have lurched.
If they have not come out as unradicalised by now then I would assume radicalised
Legit. They all be voting in dictators selling themselves down the river. Let the government rob them of their money and letting guns rob them of their children.
Nor his pizza oven
Yeah but WHO IS IN THE BATHROOM?!?!?!?!?!?!?1!!!??1211?@!?@?#
Hahaha, salty 😀
Halleluja
My man, you are everything that good about USA. Looking forward to hearing from you more!
Thank you Alex! I really appreciate you out there fighting the fight (and I would imagine making a difference). I won't watch Sky News but you do make it rather tempting!
They are the "lock em all up" of the left I guess. Bring back hanging I suppose.
I actually think these people are troll accounts, they either can't read or can't think. The number of times I ended up with someone jumping onto a position I have not said. They immediately assume you are pro genocide. Just no realistic plan for affecting change and achieving the better outcomes
Aye, sorry if it's a bit of a challenge for your B&W thinkin
Like ANY prosocution, it should be decided by the law and the decision it is in the public interest. Do I think it's a good idea to be clamouring from the sidelines for the sitting PM to be prosecuted, no, I think you should have nuance in your discussion of culpability for the crime of GENOCIDE.
A bold prediction, against the tide and forces driving us to be atomic in the last 150 years
Yeah exactly, is this an actual policy position or just virtue sigalling. I think we need that made clear.
Poltics is about compromise... sucks but it's true
Activating remote sensing mode now... send me a vision!
Chuck Putin on the list as well. This guy has the bio of the least trustworthy person imaginable surely?
Even your bio is good writing! Backups: in two different locations in case of fire, a backup is only a backup if you can retreive it try to be confident you can access your backups if you think there may be a reason why you can't
" In one video showing what it could be like to go on a date with a performative male, the man in question plays Beyoncé’s Run the World (Girls) on a ukulele having just shushed his date in order to finish reading a chapter of an Angela Davis book." Yes but it's A JOKE.
Gimmie 5 and I'll be ready
Straight facts. Thanks for being out there taking this issue on!
Every kids hears this as "hey kids, VPNs get around any annoying verification"
I'm not sure why there is this other extreme end of the AI debate which holds views like this, I assume you are just being sarcastic but there are people who kinda think like this.
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It's always along an axis of stupid and evil and the only question is where to place the pivot point.
Yeah, I thought the only question was whether Trump was actively in on it or just getting played in front of everyone's eyes. He's a chump of historic proportion.
youtu.be/I5YZ7FELtCI lyricstranslate.com/en/propagand...
More and more I think of you and a few other podcasters as the only media with some integrity and an ounce of understanding of the longer thread of things. There needs to be come charter or something for the media "will not compromise for access", "will bring the context" etc
Good work keeping the heat on... keeeeeep going! We really appreciate you and the effort!
If it turns out none of them wanted to release because it was mutually assured destruction then Dems have a lot to answer for. That's why I think Trump's administration can't try to pin on Dems, cause they have stuff on him.
Lol, that's so perfect
It's iiiiinsane
It's a special kind of idiot isn't it? Nice writing BTW
I think they themselves didn't realise how ideological they were and thought (and projected) these things as common sense. In reality they didn't really understand economics deeply enough.
That's a great summary, very reasonable 👍
It's for Ukrainians to decide 👍
Wow, who saw that one coming 🙄
So disgustingly transactional
Can we just escalate already? Put Russia back in their box and take all of their assets, sell them and build arms manufacturing plants in Ukraine.
@down.blue
Maybe don't answer that since you are going on TV now and I would really like that to continue!
I mean this really sincerely, what do you think is going on with people like that? Is that presenter naive/ill-informed and they mask it with that tone; do they think it's balance or good reporting to just default to cynicism on everything; is it the editorial line; are they a right-wing prick?
Massively agree, I like to sing, I'm not good at it but I enjoy singing and I enjoy getting better at it. Will I ever be a good singer? The question has zero relevance to why I sing. I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice tho! :D
Like I say, don't really want to argue about this stuff. I never said they were intelligent but I don't think Ed or anyone would say that LLMs are not impressive. It's just overhyped, expensive, about to crash the stock market and to a certain extent, a solution without a problem
If you are going to take such a narrow and incorrect definition of agency then yeah, you ain't going to understand the situation. I dunno why you would but you seem really set on it for some reason. I don't get why.
Yup, thanks for backing up my points :D Anyway, I don't really care to debate blah blah blah about LLMs or Ed's views (it's okay not to agree with someone on everything). I was merely pointing out that the OP had a valid question about AI alignment and that you were dismissing it too flippantly o7
It's absolutely crushing with facts.
That is super reductive. Also, I think you are all missing the point of Ed's views. They have improved so that's stupid to say they have not. Ed's views are that they are expensive, over-hyped and very, very, very importantly, that they are **misaligned** with what we want tech to do.