saapa nähdä millaiseen lopputulokseen ja miten nopeasti tämä rikosilmoitus johtaa kun tässä nyt on viime aikoina päästy tekemään vertailuja...
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saapa nähdä millaiseen lopputulokseen ja miten nopeasti tämä rikosilmoitus johtaa kun tässä nyt on viime aikoina päästy tekemään vertailuja...
Niinpä... lisää kysymyksiä. En pidä keskustelutaktiikkaasi oikein rehellisenä. Tosiaan muistuttaa tuota JAQia, pommitat vain kysymyksillä etkä seiso esittämiesi väitteiden takana tai uskalla puolustaa niitä kun totean selvän ristiriidan siinä mihin yrität niitä kytkeä.
En pidä sitäkään ongelmattomana, mutta sillä on nyt ilmeisesti päätetty mennä. Itselleni syntyy kyllä omista kommenteistasi sellainen kuva että sinulla on asiassa voimakkaampi mielipide kuin vain tämä "Just Asking Questions" meininki. Tosin niinhän se yleensä JAQ:n harrastajillakin on.
En tiedä miten sen enempää rautalangasta vääntäisi mutta jos nyt referoin vaikka. Jutussa kerrottiin siis että transnaisille on järjestetty erillinen katseilta suojattu osasto tämänhetkisenä ratkaisuna. Asiaa purettiin sitten viranomaisnäkökulmin jne. kun aiheutti ihmetystä ohjeen saaneessa.
On tietysti ihan selvää mikä puoli sitä polarisaatiota Suomessa on ihan hallituksessa asti yrittämässä kylvää. Samalla on todettava että ei ole niin että vain sentristi voisi olla sitä mieltä että polarisaatiokin on ongelma tai että se väistämättä tarkoittaisi ettei fasistia saisi sanoa fasistiksi.
Minusta on hieman omituinen ratkaisu höystää linkittämäänsä juttua esittämällä sellaisia väitteitä yhteiskunnallisesta kehityksestä joita jutun sisältö pikemminkin puhuu suoraan vastaan.
mielenkiintoinen tulkinta sinulla tämän jutun sisällöstä tuo "saa oikeuden pitää peniksensä vapaasti esillä...". Nähdäkseni siinä kun ei ilmennyt tuollaista mahdollisuutta kellekään auenneen.
Mulla kans jäin ykkönen johonkin 1/3 paikkeille ja tarkoitus on ollut jatkaa mutta ei oo sitten pitkiin aikoihin saanut aikaseks. Ympäristöt oli upeita kokemuksia (varsinkin VR:ssä, pelasin VorpX:lla), mutta pelattavuudessa oli kyllä havaittavissa vähän ettei ihan viimeisintä pelisuunnittelua enää.
No ehkä tässä voisi olla taustalla ihan se mitä sanotaan? Ihan pelleilyksihän tämä hallituskausi on mennyt suhteessa Suomen poliittisen kulttuuriin normeihin.
Vieläkö tuokin jaksaa, eihän sitä varmasti kukaan muuta kuin naureskele. Sinänsä suosittelen rapsaamista harhaanjohtavana jos vaikka poistettaisiin.
nyt vaan mahdollisimman moni mukaan! voisitko laittaa @ap.brid.gy bottia seuraamalla Mastodon/fediversumi-sillan päälle niin porukka silläkin puolella näkisi ja voisi jakaa tätä?
seems to be a common sentiment
Making them wear high-visibility vests over camo is such a good joke you couldn’t write it
ikävä vaan että tässä on vähän sellainen "keisarin uudet vaatteet" asetelma jossa sitä ei niinkään palauteta maan päälle vaan kaikki tällä hetkellä määräävää enemmistöä edustavat tahot pyrkii sen myös mahdollistamaan vaikka kuinka olisi laitonta.
creator monetization, blockchains... doesn't sound great... sounds more like a traditional closed source platform that isn't any better than TT. Check out loops.video instead.
Tämä on järkevämpi kuin X tiedottamiseen kun lukijalla ei tarvitse olla käyttäjätiliä ne lukeakseen. Lisäksi X:n seuraajamäärät on täynnä ilmaa, entisiä käyttäjiä jne. Lisäksi olisi hyvä jos @energiavirasto.fi seuraisi @ap.brid.gy siltabottia niin tavoittaa vielä kaikki Mastodon/fediversessäkin.
another option is Loops, it's the TT alternative from the Pixelfed developer
well I'm just talking about the fact that that instance is doing a lot more than the PDS. It is in fact more useful on its own because you can use just with local users if you want to. And of course it can be a peer to any number of other instances that don't depend on a "relay".
Sure, we can of course go through all the finer details but just wondering if you're willing even to concede the simple point that we're talking about two very different situations here. A fedi instance doing this is always going to affect a much smaller number of people.
Sure, but you're also comparing apples and oranges. The PDS isn't very useful on its own.
well the most important thing to realize is that it has much less of an impact because practically every person on the fediverse isn't using the same instance to begin with.
I hope nobody tips the Mississippi authorities off that there is no real block in place. I do think you're underestimating how much of a disruption it is when practically speaking none of those people know about that and we can' t easily tell them because they're blocked.
"builds one client" is an interesting way to spin it but sure, there were potential legal consequences.
yeah that was my reaction to you baselessly calling this a DDOS without knowing the first thing about the resources the instance had.
you do realize that them putting the IP block in place does take access away and require action for a large number of people, practically speaking every single person that currently lives in that state. That's because Bluesky is almost entirely run by them in practice despite ATProto handwaving.
need a bit more information to determine if it's really a DDOS. Or are we calling any uptick in traffic always a DDOS?
and my point is that you have a Lord in Bluesky corporation. One whose power is not so easily removed from Bluesky unlike the power of some dinky little fedi instance admin.
to be clear the state did not add the IP block on Bluesky.
Didn't a certain Lord just recently bar you from interacting with anyone from Mississippi?
yes, it does suck when your admins decide to block stuff like all of Mississippi or Palestinians, or Turkish opposition figures etc. Luckily there's the ability to choose who you let your admin be at least in some systems.
this kinda strikes me as saying the concept of a (web)server sucks because you may end up getting a wave of requests.
Bounce launches a service for moving accounts between Bluesky and Mastodon https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/25/bounce-launches-a-service-for-moving-accounts-between-bluesky-and-mastodon/
Bounce launches a service for moving accounts between Bluesky and Mastodon
Let’s be clear about what is happening: This man is being punished — and disappeared — because he embarrassed our pretender king. They trumped up a criminal case against him because he was embarrassing.
I don't think it has anything to do with his politics. He's just been ostracized in the west for his alleged sexual abuse so not being a particularly moral guy he turns to the Russians who will take in anyone to undermine Ukraine and the west.
yeah seems like they couldn't close it as the hype was already starting to die down
I mean the stats are there for anyone to see and they don't look any better than they did, I guess the next big thing to watch for is how well the next round of funding goes.
There's been a few week pause in the decline because people thought that this would be the place to go when X was failing to implement the UK age checks and registrations went up slightly. Now it's back on the track down, possibly accelerated by the IP block placed on the state of Mississippi
right now I don't see either service as much more likely than the other to go mainstream but the development models are very different, ActivityPub can keep trying while Bluesky is on a clock and the time is running out quickly.
Like I've outlined Bluesky sucks too but you're asking me to have faith for it while not have it for the other options? If you think the post migration thing is a big one then you should have a little faith that they'll sort that out too just like you think BSky will their total centralization.
They're always going to be the spider to some extent since they've set up a business model where they have to grow to be huge and make lots of money off this. They could still figure out ways to do it that don't add to that.
You just don't seem to get much besides a bill to pay out of running many of the services and people need to want to do it for the situation to improve. Not sure what the fix is but there's all sorts of factors that can help from making it cheaper to coming up with all kinds of perks...
sure, can monitor for tampering but that only means you'll know if they go rogue... doesn't solve the problem
the problem is that if you are interested in not having everything centralized to an insane degree this should have been an actual priority from the start. I don't see great prospects for fixing the imbalance, one of the worst things about BSky is that it does not incentivize decentralization at all
Well I'm here but not exclusively here for a few reasons. I think people should be aware of it. Maybe push the corporation to be better instead of pretending this is a federated and decentralised platform... or at the very least have a backup plan. It's also still better than Meta Threads and X.
What has followed has been a steep decline in usage from Turkey instead of some kind of credible exit from the Turks...
And yeah, even the same thing they did to those opposition figures from Turkey. There might be one or two experimental third-party clients but that was cold comfort for the people who disappeared from the official apps because of course they could not coordinate a Turkish mass migration to zeppelin.
Right. You might think you're safe after migrating it to a PDS but in reality the PLC directory says where you can be found and that's only run by the corporation. Of course that's not the only potential issue either, you could also mostly disappear if they just blocked your PDS.
I think it is far from a foregone conclusion that people would be able to. First hurdle is that right now there is a critical dependency on Bluesky PBC, every identity registered through the official servers is using did:plc. This gives them centralized control over where your identity is located.
But then this is not the first time I've run into this guy that deals with the first sight of pushback with blocking. Not a critical thinker.
and this guy should point out the fallacies if there are any instead of cowardly insulting from behind a block
How is it a nitpick when there is very real leverage that is only not being observed because the corporation that has the power is choosing not to use it? They could even be forced by the courts even if they happen to be so benevolent that wouldn't otherwise.
they could block any noncompliant third party relay that this app is using from accessing the PDS instances that the vast majority of users are currently housed at.
That just seems a bit like saying X is great and just as good as anything because you can still see message threads there using xcancel (or a couple of other nitter instances) and also is ignoring that Bluesky corp does have the ability to do blocks that would be harder to evade.
A court could very well find that they do have to since the way they block now isn't effective and they are able to do more. In the message you replied to I was not using "instance" to refer to a server or whatever, feel free to replace "in this instance" with "in this case".
most of them are not from Mississippi or even the USA, it's not at all clear they're even subject to the law and even if they were it's not a realistic proposition that Mississippi is going to go on an around the world tour indicting every small instance.
and that's even before we discuss whether Mississippi state law applies to every single website operator who is running an instance around the world.
you don't really seem to understand. The overall network can be popular but there will always be instances of all sizes starting from just single user ones everywhere around the world. There will always be numerous entries to the network that are so small that they are not going to be targeted
That is not at all the same thing because in the big picture nobody at all is using those. Also, Bluesky corp has the power to block in a way that would also prevent those from working, they just haven't done it that way in this instance yet.
He wasn't saying that though. He was saying the fediverse as a whole is very resilient against it. A few instance operators might end up blocking Mississippi for all I know, it won't make much of a difference for the ability of people from Mississippi to get on the fediverse.
it's certainly a significant chunk. It's not a thousand times more than anything else like on Bluesky though.
it's of course then really comfy to claim the other side doesn't want to understand but it seems there's a fair bit of that going on by the Bluesky proponents.
I always see you people completely omit and refusing to address the fact that in practical terms there's only a fraction of a fraction of a percent of "decentralization" on Bluesky. I think you've redefined the meaning of the word for your own convenience.
thanks for mentioning snac, had not looked at it before and it looks more scriptable to me than GtS which could be useful in the future.
cwebber wrote about how Bluesky seems to be shooting for a "credible exit" more than actual decentralization. Personally I'm a little skeptical that an exit can really even be credible without a nontrivial amount of decentralization on the network though.
Yeah I was aware of the third party stuff but I do appreciate you recognizing the point of view that in practice it's still very centralized as valid. There's also still at least the PLC directory that is not run by anyone else and the fact that PLC identities cannot be migrated to did:web.
open protocol != decentralization. Your example is gets into why the situation is not at all similar. Had never even heard of that instance using Afghanistan TLD before, the other 30 000 instances participating on the fediverse remained available despite that government action.
to be clear, taliban blocking the domain of a small instance is not "similar"
why do I think it is a good thing you can operate fediverse instances while choosing to defederate with anyone you want and still be able to participate with the wider network? I'm afraid you need to explain why you don't a bit better.
In the fediverse's case you can viably use it and many do, here's an analysis showing that a year ago 47 instances that amounted to 60-70k users were blocking mastodon.social: stefanbohacek.com/blog/fediver...
you'd miss about 27% of the active userbase which isn't trivial but is also a whole lot better than what you'd get trying to operate Bluesky without Bluesky's corporate servers
Työkaveri kertoi, että hänellä on matala verenpaine ja hän oli googlannut, mitä sille vois tehdä kotikonstein. Pakollinen tekoälyvastaus oli ehdottanut tupakoimista.
tässä tapauksessa Bluesky itse esti kaikki IP-osoitteet Mississippistä. Fediversen vastine olisi että jotkut instanssit tekisivät itsenäisesti saman. Aika vähäiset vaikutukset tuolla todennäköisesti olisi.
guess you've found your way into a unique definition of decentralization.
unfortunately while there may arguably be some distributed nature to the tech the platform is in practice extremely centralized because only a rounding error of users are on anything other than the corporate servers.
would just like to add anyone can enable the bridge simply by following the bot at @ap.brid.gy
would you consider pointing out that a truly decentralized platform would not see their users be this affected by this to be rational? There's no single party that can just announce "we're blocking Mississippi from Mastodon" at all.
Or any other single state or country either of course.
yes, it's fully decentralized over tens of thousands of instances all over the world so it's very unlikely to be affected because lots of those instances won't give a damn about Mississippi's laws.
Mastodon is more important than ever. Everyone should at least create a backup account there, if not, starting becoming active.
@bsky.app And this is why real decentralization matters. There is nobody that can decide for the fediverse to block Mississippi.
I strongly suspect it's not IF, it's WHEN Trump shuts down this site. Establish contact NOW with folks LOCALLY who are organizing against fascism, friends. And set up on other social media sites. (Yes, Mastodon kind of sucks, but it's the one that's least likely to be killed by fascists.)
yes but they're unlikely to really effect fully decentralized fediverse platforms like Mastodon, Misskey, Pixelfed etc.
Make me wonder what @bsky.app will do in December when Australia's under-16 social media ban comes into force.
good day to also enable the fediverse bridge by following @ap.brid.gy since anyone from Mississippi can then still interact with you by going to any one of the thousands of fediverse instances, Mastodon and others
it's definitely Bluesky doing the blocking here. Assuming under the threat of a penalty but I don't know what kind.
Bluesky has decided to block its service in Mississippi, rather than comply with the state's age verification law.
Another way to still access is BSky is people outside of Mississippi can enable a bridge for their account to the fediverse: @ap.brid.gy Then Mississippians who are using Mastodon and other fediverse platforms can see your posts and even interact with you. Decentralization, baby.
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joutui perusteetta blueskyn moderoinnin uhriksi sekin, mutta jatkaa olemassaoloaan ton saman tekijän @bsky2023.bsky.social uuden listan muodossa
dude got to be AG because of the Republican effort to make the SC their tool and then failed in the one job he had that could have saved the country...
yeah it's not the first demographic that I would assume helped get him re-elected. Just about the only reason I can think of to even consider it at all is that there's been some rightward shift among some new age types that I guess ties into the antivax stuff and those people might like RFK Jr.
Se ei varmaan olisi kaksinumeroisia kannatuslukuja juuri nähnytkään aikoihin. Voisi siis olla ihan hyväkin asia... Suomen historialla ja sijainnilla täällä taitaisi olla aika vaikea menestyä laajamittaisen sodan alettua muutoin.
well anyone voting for Trump knew he was going to be in the picture
Ukrainan ja Suomen kohtalonhetkissä on paljon samaa, mutta myös yksi ero: Stalin oli varovaisempi kuin Putin | Kotimaa | Yle #Stalin #Putin #turpo #säkpol https://yle.fi/a/74-20178486?origin=rss
USA:n ulkoministeriön ihmisoikeusraportit on myös pistetty uusiksi, esim. naisiin kohdistuva väkivalta, vapaat vaalit ja korruptio ei enää kiinnosta. Saksan tilanne nähdään ongelmallisena, El Salvador täydellisenä. anneapplebaum.substack.com/p/war-is-pea...
vahinkoa jota on hyvin vaikea peruuttaa on kyllä tapahtunut ja vielä jää nähtäväksi miten pahasti koko vaalijärjestelmääkin yrittävät tehdä sellaiseksi ettei siellä muita vallassa olisikaan kuin Trumpin poliittisia perillisiä... tää ICC:n asia on vielä aika kesy näiden joukossa, vastaava oli jo 2020
koko valamiehistön pöytäkirjojen julkaisupyyntö oli Trumpin oikeusministeriön irvikuvalta pelkkä harhautus. Ministeriöllä on hallussa runsaasti Epstein-materiaalia joita eivät kuitenkaan Trumpin käskystä julkaise mutta tämän tekemällä yrittävät kääntää syytökset hallinnosta oikeuslaitokseen.
toisaalta eipä tuo GRRM:n ideakaan mitenkään erityisen ainutlaatuinen ole, monilla aloilla mukaanlukien kirjoittaminen on esitetty jo paljon aikaisemmin samansuuntaisia ajatuksia.
How big is the open social web, the fediverse, #bluesky etc compared to the big commercial platforms? It's a bit sobering. From my recent talk "From millions to billions -- a plausible narrative for how to grow the open social web."
