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I’m going to call bullshit on this. Starmer isn’t the one whose given Farage endless coverage. Starmer isn’t the one plastering Farages image across its front pages. Starmer isn’t the one sensationalising the protests outside hotels. That was the Guardian. www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...
It's even worse on Facebook. My local (Labour) MP talks about the new childcare provision and within 5 replies Starmer is anti British. The childcare is being spent on immigrant families because Labour are importing people to vote for them.
I've lost all respect for journalists over the last couple of years. I doubt I'm the only one. We need a trusted source of news though otherwise democracy can't work properly.
Look at yourself and media colleagues.
The newspaper that gave Farage endless uncritical coverage and headlines seems to think it’s Starmer’s fault Farage “hijacked the summer headlines” You can’t make this level of hypocrisy up www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...
When some poor asylum seeker is attacked and injured by a knuckledragging "patriot" spurred on by this kind of BS he'll deny any hint of responsibility. What a c word he is.
From what I've read, the change is that the spouse/partner relationship must have been in place before they left their home country. I guess it's to stop people entering false relationships to just get accepted. No idea if that's a big issue. Seems a hammer to crack a nut.
This speaks better than a crap speech from Starmer.
I suspect he's trying to get X banned/restricted in some way to feed the narrative that UK is anti free speech.
Last year he called the fat right rioters far right rioters - then we had a month of the press/public villifyjng him for being nasty to the common man and they were lionised.. Anything he says will be twisted. Just keep arresting anyone who breaks the law.
Patriots!
Again, what action do you want? Where people are breaking the law, they are being arrested. Do you just want a nice speech?
What action do you want? Bearing in mind any speech/statement will be both have no effect and be twisted in two ways by both the far right and far left. IMO better to leave the words to everyone else.
I wonder if this smuggler actually exists?
I miss it so much.
If you are still around there, go to Laguardia
Where are you?
I guess it's because, weirdly, they don't visit each other's houses, instead just meet up outside or in a bar.
The flag on the left looks a bit swasstikery
Sadly, you are probably right.
The Rylan thing should be an opportunity. Get him into an asylum hotel, get their stories, see how they live.
Just get Campbell back.
Fair points.
Perhaps setting up was the wrong phrase. But certainly using that demographic for the extra publicity. Certainly wouldnt have been as effective if it had been mainly scruffy young people. (ie the stereotype activist)
Just like PA then? Setting up a load of pensioners to be arrested.
The Facebook mob seem convinced that all the judges were appointed by Starmer and are Labour party activists. Country gone mad.
Unfortunately the usual suspects will be trying to provoke something outside the hotel.
This is funny. Before election Starmer said he admired the way Thatcher got things done. Zack said this showed Starmer is a Thatcherite. His logic says Zack must be a Faragist. Btw I don't think so, but it shows Zack up as the hypocritical hypnotist he is.
The current racist furore is apparently all down to the govt not commenting strongly enough on Farage's racist rhetoric. If it's not that it's because the govt is either acting too much like Reform, or not doing enough to deport people! How is this govt supposed to do its job with all this nonsense!
I live near the North Yorkshire fires. You get people demanding Starmer say something then the same person says Actions speak louder than words. You point out the actions taken then they say it's not good enough without saying what's lacking, then demand again he says something.
What a shock!
Do the govt really need to respond to every comment by every no-mark? There's plenty of response from journalists, individual MPs and others.
I think I'm reading "like" as in a fan of. Which I wouldnt understand. Anyway, I've gone about it too much. The Rylan conversation is one I've had a lot with the OH. We can't fathom why he's always on telly.
Oh, I don't think I've said anything odd or controversial. Oh well. Maybe it is just me.
Yes, I like my girlfriend but she's not on telly. Generally people are on telly because of some talent they have, but I don't see why he is. (Not just him btw - I haven't been especially anti-Rylan, like others he is always on telly for no discernible reason).
Out of interest why? He doesn't sing, dance, tell jokes. What "talent" does he have?
Probably wrong kind of racism.
Bogies
One of his best mates is a right win loon. Tom Skinner.
Maybe the govt saying nothing and letting him hang himself is a good idea? (Glass half full opinion)
I live in Cloughton. The dude manning the road block told me that people were driving on the cinder track to get round the block.
National assistance has already kicked in with crews from around the country helping and there's funds if needed.
Nigel Farage and the Reform Party’s Taliban Tax means sending hundreds of millions of taxpayers' money to an oppressive regime that British soldiers fought and died to defeat.
It's the lazy "Hasnt ruled out..." Gotcha. Eg Starmer hasn't ruled out sending all people called Brian to a prison camp in Bolivia.
This sounds like a desperate attempt to criticize for the sake of it
Britain's media leads us up the garden path to purgatory because [checks notes] Gov. spokesman is 'too dry' and policy isn't 'sexy' enough? Fast forward to a Reform government & same media asking 'how did this happen'. Because Nick Thomas-Symonds didn't pull out his old chap & slap it on the podium?
This thread illustrates what they are up against. Try a strong attack, the media lose interest and belittle it. bsky.app/profile/stur...
I broadly agree. I think the fear comes from when he rightly called far-right protesters "far right" there was wide (confected) outrage over labelling "ordinary" people as right wing.
Where is do nowt Nandy
Burning North York Moors out the back of my house.
IMO Today has been neither genius or a fuck up. A Minimum reaction to Farage but others want more or different and there's been a bit of misrepresentation and exaggeration in the reporting.
She said, not prepared to criticise Farage for anything. There was dismissive criticism and defending of ECHR. Fair opinion to say not strong enough. But the headline post is just misleading.
Elgot said no criticism. Multiple other organisations reported criticism (Tory and non Tory).
Just so
I'm comparing to other reports. Were you there?
He said himself that he got the Island of Strangers speech wrong. Even then, when you read the full thing you can see he meant pretty much the opposite of how it was interpreted. You can either believe it was a mistake or not. My belief is he's awful at speeches and STFU at times.
Dont you think the "strength of feeling" quote is taken out of context. It was referring to the taxes people paying to maintain the current system, rather than feelings against the migrants themselves.
Jessica Elgot seems to have missed most of what was said.
....lying.
So has Labour. The Guardian journalist isn't telling the truth.
"Starmer’s official spokesman, said it showed Farage’s entire immigration plan was “not serious”. He said: “Let’s be clear, the ECHR underpins key international agreements on security and immigration, and the Good Friday Agreement." Huffpost. Are you sure that you were at the right briefing?
Why are you lying?
You're assumption is that the Guardian reporter is telling the full truth. (Hint - she isn't)
You're assumption is that the Guardian reporter is telling the full truth. (Hint - she isn't)
Stupid thing to do. Could easily have broken a leg. Too many NUFC are playing angry.
Hers is probably seen as a minor position but there's a lot of potential influence there. For example reforming media standards and enforcement of those standards.
I drove from the Wirral to North Yorkshire (prime Gammon land) and saw one on a motorway overpass.
No idea, but I think it's good that they recognised it wasnt good and are trying again. We'll have to see. It does look like it's with Nandy and I agree she's been useless so far.
At the same time she and Corbyn are arguing in public over which anti semitism rule should apply. Just makes them look daft.
It's being rewritten as the original legislation was poor... consoc.org.uk/implementing...
I thought it was being re written with the input of the families as the original was rubbish. consoc.org.uk/implementing...
How many world leaders do you think should be there? The leaders of USA, Germany, Italy and Spain perhaps? Their countries supply far far more weaponry (and it's offensive). It should be noted that UK have offered to provide surveillance footage in the event of war crime hearings.
Again, Reform, Reform, Farage, Farage, Reform. Then we'll have an article - why are Labour so obsessed with Reform?
Some people hear the word "private" and lose their mind. Usually including some smear over Wes Streeting and then complicit blah blah blah.
They need to find a few billionaires to buy the newspapers and TV stations.
I thought out under licence meant you werent supposed to be giving interviews etc. I suspect she's been convinced that it'll be worth going back in jail to continue the political prisoner narrative. I might be both wrong and being cynical.
No. They were arrested for supporting a terrorist group.
There will be a follow up suggesting the govt is to blame for the headlines.
Reading the Guardian, you would have no idea fascists were massively outnumbered and prevented from reaching the refugees they were meant to viciously intimidate Exaggerating the strength of the far right, euphemising their aims and the strengths of resistance... www.theguardian.com/world/2025/a...
We have Ofgem - which are supposed to be neutral, quite rightly. But, I think Johnson put a load of Tories there. (Like the BBC). Nandy (who has been useless) needs to do something so we have a neutral body with teeth.
At a guess, the Afghan refugees stuck in hotels waiting to have their acts of bravery for British soldiers honoured will have done immeasurably more for this country than the shits spray painting roundabouts with a can of wrong colour paint they probably stole from Halfords.
From the article itself .. Kyle never really took the idea seriously
Only if the media continue to amplify Reform and the misinformation around asylum seekers. Maybe you lot could try the truth for a bit.
The media want a Farage govt though.
I, like many others, followed him at first. He was the leader, certainly the opposite of a Tory. Then it was a drip, drip, drip of disappointments, face palm moments and inevitable defeat that turned us against him. Actually, against him is too strong Just want to move on, wish he would too.
The giggling sycophants were worse.
It is odd the focus UK gets. It's like Starmer is personally responsible for everything Israel does.
Guess what, it isn't true.
Pretty sure USA would defend Israel.
Is that a serious suggestion?
I'm not really sure what you want? The likes of Tice are careful to keep themselves on the right side of the law. There does need to be action against GBNEWS/Talk TV but Ofgem are useless - Nandy needs to get her finger out. Fortunately the likes of Tommy Robinson will end up in prison.
It's amazing how the never-will-pay-IHT come out and bat for their wealthy overlords.
Has she done anything about anything yet?
That doesn't answer my question.
Huh? What makes you think Starmer is the one with the influence to stop this?
Huh? They jailed about a thousand of them.
Can't they talk about something that isn't Palestine/Israel ?
If a "hotel" closes then these people won't be spending their meagre allowances locally. The building will probably be left empty with the risks that brings. These people may have to be housed in council accomodation. Not going to be the win they think. But (racist reasons) a price worth paying.
How did they get a visa?