Pragmatic Progressive. Getting things done requires work, partnership & a broad coalition Knows that some of the "far left" are as intractable & intolerant as the "far right" which doesn't make things easier Slava Ukraini 8647 I like cats too
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i didn't bring you son up, you did. I didnt make him a wedge but that's on the debate. I don't recommend anytthing really, just pointing out the realities. Clearly, you have too, but the difference is, you're far more willing to pull it ALL down..or have nothing. Maybe that works for you.
One of the hardest personal choices is when realize maybe its time to let go,step back. That is one thing. Doing it for the good of what you've worked for..is pretty special.
There is so much wrong with what you just wrote. I am try to Courtney at least in this little thing here. If you'd actually asked me what i thought about those issues, well, maybe come with a better way to try to make someone else's fault. I doubt you're actually interested anway.
I do agree, but unfortunately haters aren't likely to suck it up. The battle is, as it always is, over the undecided/fence sitters.
Nice graphic, whatever it means.
Why can't we? Just look at this thread.
Oh, i do all the time, married for 35 years it's the only way it works.
A RUTABAGA....oh you go to far! LOL, i guess it's better than a brussel sprout.
with personal invective, distortion of remarks, and basically intolerance of dissent or at least differences. You've been very aggressive. I've been playing a defense. Whatever, it's this kind of thing that gives me reason to fear for our collective future...yours perhaps more than mine at 72.
It may be, but i am reading your words. I started off most agreeing with you...regarding Unity. We seem to have differing ideas of how that is achieved and what it means. I'm not mad, a bit disappointed that just by saying, in essence, we have probably have tough choices ahead that folks respond
To be honest, the concept of "rights" is man made construct dating back a few centuries at most. That aside, you make assumptions not based on evidence presented. Do you feel better though?
It's not clear what you're asking.
it can be hard within the limits of a fixed limit statement.
And he shouldn't be.
Maybe you'd be happier on X. I'm not gonna play this kind of game with you. I prefer serious people, or ones with a sense of humor maybe.
It's looking like that's what YOU are doing, and i'm not going to play that game with you. You know, the big "thing" about Bluesky was about having discussions. Hopefully mostly respectful. Maybe you'd rather be back on X???
I'm not sure what you gain by being a rather foolish smart alec but....you be you, i'll be me. Best of luck to you.
You choose. There's more flavors than the 31 at Baskin-Robbins.
Easy answer. No one.
No. That's racism.
Fear is never irrelevant, it's a real thing. I just know that our politics covers a LOT of ground. Right now, on the Progressive side, we are on the ropes, and need to pull our act together..and that may mean discarding the more petty differences we may have..versus survival.
Yes i do. Since the 1970's and my college years. Do you? Since it seems clarification is important here
Unfortunately for your argument, i never advocated throwing anyone under the bus.
If you mean Trump, he's not smart man, nor a truly succesful one. He's mostly about self-gratification...at any cost.
NO...that's not my point. Yes, some will not make the cut, we both know that. But if we do not reach out, they won't take our hand up. Unity is not a one way proposition, it IS a joining, oftne by compromise. MAGA has unity, but it's a cult. We should be a movement of the many. That means acceptance
We won't win everyone over. You never do. But there IS a great fertile ground to work with..IF we don't scare them off first. We need to reach out to them, show them why we think our ideas are better and..hopefully, they stick around long enough to see that benefit too. Thats political organizing.
I'm not proposing a "middle ground" with Authoritarianism, or Fascism. The real need right now is for those who OPPOSE those ideologies to put DOWN our differences, find the "middle ground" where we all gain, even with compromises...maybe disappointments, yet we live to fight another day.
here, because IF the Authoritarian state wins, no one is really ever safe. The need for a target to let loose the masses outrage upon for the "glory of the State" never ends.
I just offered an impartial definition. I didn't think we were even reasonably on that same page. The problem though here is, honestly, the "trans" issues itself may be irrelevant to a Fascist, BUT using them as a rallying point to personify discontent is useful to Autocrats. Which is the danger
Yes i do, though i'd expect he'd disagree.
Thats really all i was saying. We need "Unity", but we have to pragmatically make hard decsions...DELAYING some to preserve the body. In medicine, in emergency response we call this "Triage". www.dictionary.com/browse/triage
l don't think you really understand what a "Fascist" is, it's just the disparaging remark of the day. You are describing racists yes. You are describing sadism. Those ARE tools often used by Fascism in pursuit of it's goals, mere targets of convenience. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/f...
I never said trans people are/should be scapegoats. I have said, ALL the rights LGBTQ & other "minority" groups are endangered right now, and to preserve decades of gains WE all MIGHT have to make some hard choices. This struggle has taken years. Instant gratifiction isn't on the menu, never was.
I suppose i could ask: "Define Fascist" and that would be unfair, but since you moved beyond allying with those who we would have thought unlikely to naming a specific group i'll be specific too. Give me a name. Or names. Not a label We all need to look case by case. Unless you like the simpistic
want, distort what little i've actually said. Go for it. I saddened but it won't change me, and i don't think you'll succeed in winning new allies we desperately need. Single issue voting is dysfunctional & polarizing. I agree with the "Unity" basic premise, it's a shame you don't actually.
i see the common threat. Because i believe "unity" is how we win. That means thing we wouldn't have considered, some gratification that just might have to wait a bit longer. One thing. You, specifically, can't talk Unity while ripping apart any ally who's not 100% on your page. Quote MLK all you
..save our Democracy. This right now is as serious as any of use should care to ever see. I NEVER thought i'd see his in my 72 years here. But it's here & it's real. Now you can just go do you and i do me..i'm more than willing to work with yuok, treat with respect EVEN where we disagree because
To that end, my contention is that neccessity with lead us to what may once have seemd strange bedfellows. Thinking "never-Trumpers", ex-GOP who see the danger. Likewise, i'm suggesting we MAY have to make some hard choices and PRIORITIZE (not abandon) some of our issues in order to prevail and..
..to say. It's hard in this format to convey complex opinions but in essence all i've said is, we on the Progressive side of things are truly on the ropes in face of am Authoritarian movement that WILL wipe all of what we'e fought for for DECADES if we don't get our collective act together.
Well, that didn't take long. LOL. Kind of proves the point really. You are on fire for your cause, i get that, but you can't talk "unity" while being as intolerant of even mildly dissenting thought. You've gone on at extreme length, making all kinds of assumptions about me, and what i'm trying..
Whether 2ndA pro-gun, trans advocate, extreme Left or RIght they beomce "true believers" for whatever cause they hold dear & you just can't discuss anything with them that isn't 100% agreement. This whole thread amply demonstrates this. Expressing a need for unity, so long as you agree with them. 🙄
What is clear to me is there isn't much difference between how "single issue" voters respond to ANY critique or commentary they dislike about their fave "issue". They care little for other issues, show zero tolerance for respectful moderate views, resort to personal attack to those who differ.
Well, in the coming Technocratic State all the "tech bros" want to create (Google that) many, possibly most of us become superfluous, a drag on their perfect, perfectly run society. Most of us will live in the clay while they lead gated lives of luxury.
You aren't really indulging in a discussion are you? You're mostly putting extranious unrelated comments. That is soo MAGA of you whether your realize it or not. Don't listen, distort, conflate and just plain old change the subject. I'm not giving you any more opportunity to just troll. Take care.
Last i checked, genocide and/or "disappeared" are issues of importance discussioning Palestininan genocide, and her in the us, of US citizens & non-citizens arrested and "disappeared". Thus far, they're not killing off gays as gov't policy but...who knows if the MAGA/Christian Right wins?
I was referring this quote attributed to Courteny: "we need to fucking unify, and that means at this stage, swiftly discouraging the wedge issue dividers in our own party." I have zero intention to throw ANYONE to wolves, but i'm also not willing to gamble excessively with the gains you now enjoy.
Well, guess you're going to be like the man who bets the house then, and does not worry if the rest of the family is made homeless. If you win, it's small, but if lose it's (potentially) really frickin' big. MAGA world will not stop, and apparently neither will you. Best of luck, you may need it
K-12 trans athletes. Can we just wait a little bit longer for those folks to catch up emotionally on these issues? DO you REALLY want to risk it all on these delayable issues? If you do, consider you talking about a LOT more people then the relative few. Up to you i guess. Best of luck.
It means, preserving as much as has been gained so far as we can. That means LGBTQ right to marry & adopt, live/work without discrimination, not be cashiered from US military service..stuff like that. A lot of people who are ok with that, are uncertain about minor gender surgery or
not from zero, or a deficit, but victorious in that we HELD THE LINE and we intend to keep pursuing ALL our goals. We truly risk losing the functional ability to fight back if MAGA/GOP wins. I'm 72, probably live in that dystopian MAGA world as long as you so, if they win, best of luck to you.
Or.... are you saying the way you gain "unity" is by removing anything with which you do not 100% agree with? I don't think that's what you mean, it's hard to express nuance on a platform like this. Like it or not, we may be in a triage mode. Save what we can, hold the line, come back later
Courteny, you literally were quoted as saying "we need to fucking unify, and that means at this stage, swiftly discouraging the wedge issue dividers in our own party." What DOES that mean then? I'm not advocating discouraging issues (wedge or not), i'm saying prioritize, not abandon
Never mind that what was "moderate" then in the 1960's (and i lived thru them too) isnt' what might be considered "moderate" today What WILL you say when and "all or nothing" results in not just nothing but losing all the ground gained because THAT IS what we are up against. It's not just about you
You kind of leave out, that without whites, including "moderate" whatever that means...LGBTQ+, minorities and women in general would not be where they are now. Right now we face an enemy who won't stop at trans in scholastic sports (which inflames them) and they come for all of it including.
Which do you pick? How many generations have African-Americans worked to get basic rights and STILL don't have them equally to white people? Are you willing to gamble that too because the same truly anti-trans people are proably not your friends either. Nor Democracies, or an open free society.
Secure Trans rights to medical care, marriage, adopt, discrimination (workplace/housing), BUT (for now) step away from trans women in scholastic sports, back off on gender surgery for minors. OR...Go for broke, all or nothing. Lose everything gained, if you can't have it all right now.
We all could be wrong sometimes, very true. Is why this is a discussion, not the game plan. Every one leaps to a conclusion i'm talking somehow abandoning trans people, and that's not what i'm trying to say. Let's put THIS way Gwen. Let's put the decision on YOU. Here's your choice.
I have to side more with Courtney here. We DO need unity & PAUSE on some of the causes. This isn't throwing a whole class of people under the bus, it's how we've gotten as far as we have on social issues. It's proven strategy to "pick your battles", prioritize goals.
Alternating between guilty feelings about wishing for someone's demise, and for being happy there isn't a State Funeral that i as a taxpayer need to fund.
of us can keep our attention and efforts working where it really matters. With all due respect, this is and will remain a sideshow until it stops. Let's just put it behind us.
military funerals? At the end of the day, what IS at stake here? What honor do we retrieve here? Is keeping this story alive & forefront doing any of us any good? Give her the damn funeral, maybe less "honors" and NO death payments & put and end to this so the Right is denied a martyr & the rest
subsequent behavior displeases us? Do we do this without due process or do we do it to simply put another head on a stick? While we can't get the ringleaders of Trumpian insurrection? Will other veterans who similarly particiapted in J6, who align with Trump (like Gen MikeFlynn), be denied
kind of thing plausible disinformation can do to people. Babbitts service while in the USAF was acceptable enough for her warrant a military funeral, it is her questionable actions as a civilian that we are holding her entire life to. Do we similarly deny basic honors to those who served because
I tend to disagree. It's not that i believe Babbitt is completely innocent, she isn't, in fact most of are not "innocent" either. I DO think she was someone confused, and susceptible to the MAGA/QAnon/Trumpist siren song & was deluded by it. It's not an excuse, a get out of jail free card. It's the
First; we DO have way too many guns. But I think the bigger problem is our current culture of violent retribution as solution. It's everywhere from music, film, TV, fiction.. and now from the President's mouth. Even the "good guys" are retribution killing. Anti-heros are actually not good heros.
No, you don't revoke THEIR security details, you just substitute in the protective of a Federal prison.
Simple fact is this discontinuence of protection for Harris & others is driven by Trump's lust for revenge & nothing more. ANY death or injury is his responsibility & like the common criminal he is, he should be held to full accountability for it.
trying to say here. We're spending far too much time on a VERY peripheral issue while literally our house in burning down around us. Just get this over. Keep this up and that $5M will become 10. It wont' stop until we all stop talking about it. The sooner she's forgotten, the better for us all.
I do disagree somewhat about the cult issue. I do not dispute the rest. Babbitt put herself in harm way, deliberately, the officer (indeed ALL the Capital LEO's showed great restraint) is guilty of nothing. She should have surrendered of just left. That advice, the "leave or desist" is what i'm
Do i think Babbitt indulged in unlawful and unwarranted acts that led up to her death? Yes i do, and it's terrible, but this is what cults like Jim Jordan, Heavens Gate, David Koresh do. Is she a traitor? ONLY in speculation since there was no trial, no weighing of fact, no judgement by a jury.
It's just better in the long run to give Babbitt her miltary funeral. Keep it low key, but give it. End the endless distracting discussion that ONLY inflames the already idiotic far right. Yes, her story ends in pointless tragedy, but just give surviving family this closure & let's move on.
Babbitt was a sorry situation of some gullible person drawn to a cult doing crazy stuff that led to her death. She did her service, just GIVE her the military funeral she otherwise would have had, tell the family it will be low key & END this. How much time do some of you want to waste on this?
He also doesn't seem to have enough testosterone to grow a proper MAN's beard either.
We'll here a lot of nonsense from pro-assault rifle folks, and while a ban on new sales is needed, it's far from a comprehensive solution to these kind of weapons in Amerian society. Any kind of gun confiscation is not going to happen, but we can regulate & ban magazines, silencers, body armor etc.
The simple fact is, 2ndA supporters are more invested in getting set up for some goofy post apocalypse so they can shoot all their neighbors than they are in preventing crazy whackjobs from getting access to military grade weapons. Pro 2ndA="I get to shoot people"
No, they just take phony shots Trump to give him photo op. Then they die and get cremated ASAP.
It's not just that Trump demands and feeds on this kind of sickening sycophancy, it's that so many highly educated people slip right into the role of "Adoring Fan"
Hehe, boy band Menudo "ancient" like the 1980s, how could people live like that? At least they had car phones.
Well broccoli is smelly and kind of nasty too.
Well, the facts are now in. Roger Stone does NOT have a split-personality disorder. He's just another asshole.
Blocking you. Like myself, no one will miss you.
It'll have to do. What would YOU rather do? Accept the mea culpa & see if new actions measure up to that realization of error OR do you want to be a profane, vengeful, person turning away potential allies when EVERY vote & voice matters? Yes, i'll take good enough, and that includes you apparently.
Neither you, or i, or the persons making/liking the post runs the risk of going to jail over Federal felony crimes.
Understood, and i agree with the "red flag" and i also think the tactic (of monitoring/reporting) has value. JUST saying, it also carries potential for risk to those who monitor or make police reports. That's how it is with Civil Disobedience, something many Americans do not clearly understand.
It needs to be tracked and reported but it MAY be intelligence gathered with limited useful lifespan over a practice that MIGHT be currently legal, but incorrectly applied here. Reporting as "suspicious/stolen" may serve value as a monkeywrench tactic of disruption to ICE activities.
No, not at all. IF these people see/acknowledge the errors of faith or judgments they've made we MUST be prepared to welcome at least some of them into our movement. It is exceedingly foolish to just throw away what might become a valued ally. Late to the cause perhaps...but that's life for you.
I am no Joe Rogan fan. I'm aware of things he's said/done/allowed on his podcast. BUT, sometimes people have that flash of realization, where if not realizing their errors, question what they once held true. Mr Rogan may be having that moment now. Give him the space to come around.
This is exactly right, along with compelling (& funding) Medical school training to expand enrollment to qualifieid candidates from advance Specialty physicians to bedside Nursing & othre direct care providers. Expanding use of non-physician HCW care for lesser acuity patients would also help.
Waiting for medical procedures has more to do with corporate profit efforts but more importantly artificial constraints on medical school admission (esp for specialties), & opposition by physician organizations to use of Nurse Practioners (& similar HCW's), for the bulk of care wchi is lower acuity
Gone not a moment too soon.
I just recieved this in the mail today. It's basically a creation of Charles T. Munger Jr, a known GOP activist and supporter of the original creation of the Redistricing Commision of California. It purports to be even-handed while being blind to MAGA/GOP efforts to end Democracy.
Even the trailer is bad.
This sounds like a remarkably BAD idea.
...and served with a leafy green salad too!!
Note that sandwich guy was charged via criminal complaint, not indictment. For now, that allows the government to initiate the case & arrest him. But DOJ will eventually have to seek an indictment by grand jury. He’s charged w/ a felony & the 5th Amendment requires indictment by GJ in such cases.
I don't know entirely how we manage this, but the time has come to outright ban symbols used by racist white supremacists. This would include the "Stars & Bars" Confederate flag along with neo-Nazi symbolism. Allow both criminal violation action along with civil lawsuits to break these organizations
I didn't like Ozzy as a musician or singer when he first came along in the late 60's and i never heard a single song to change my mind. I especially did not like the cultural impact he's had on our society. It's just wrong to lionize someone who built of career out of commercialized despair.
Yes, after total knee replacments there was a lot self-manage PT done on my bed. Mostly stretch/flex, but would wear me out & i'd take a nap after. My 20y old cat would clamber up on the bed to nap with me. Long after recovery, at "PT" time, she'd find me & meow so we could take our nap again.
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