Is it Starmer or McSweeney driving this? Either way...agreed it is both shit and stupid.
Is it Starmer or McSweeney driving this? Either way...agreed it is both shit and stupid.
and mosques...
Won't be forgiven on bluesky
a) obviously
if only Galloway had won in Batley
This. He really does. Stop putting out tweets and saying shite to show how tough he is on illegal migration etc., that just helps feed the divisions at same time as pissing off labour's liberal base even more. It is a terrible self defeating strategy that isn't helping anything or anyone.
you might want to contact him on twitter....
Twitter just has much wider reach internationally...Bluesky just seems so US/UK dominated.
can't that same child also claim asylum...because fleeing a war zone?
going to practice what they preached?
Is this the bit where everyone on British Bluesky say they've never rated Jack Straw.
yeah, but Farage is definitely leading on it. He sets the narrative. But, also this is an issue affecting lots of countries in europe that needs resolving.
Yes probably for some, but at same time there will be some who won't like a hotel in their town being used to house them.
I think some people don't like local hotels being used to house them, can't pretend that this might not be true. They need to be processed quicker so hotels don't need to be used.
won't it actually lead to more people in limbo who don't get asylum accepted but can't be deported because no return agreement?
Albania?
overton window has shifted...Farage has had a very successful summer. Wouldn't be surprised if more criteria for refugee status is tightened, here and across europe.
Replaced by who?
and probably really unpopular
Plus Strictly
I was very, very hungover.
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Grim.
Burnham
Working out pretty well for him
Yes maybe not in terms of elections, talking about his possible policies if he replaced him now. Would he still support Ukraine like Trump kind of does? Same with NATO. He seems more isolationist than Trump.
Vance might be worse for Europe/Ukraine?
hoping he just says...you know what, I can't be arsed with all this...and quits.
god it's exhausting.
she's doing a good job of wrecking any chance she has of becoming leader. A shame.
Yeah...but it isn't looking good is it?
35% is a lot, but still a minority. Problem is now the vote on left/centre is so fractured...and labour are managing to please noone.
Outlier obvs
I expect they're aware, they just don't know what to do about it.
yeah, maybe. He is super unpopular, is a shit politician and not in anyway a visionary leader...he's just a technocrat manager. But, who replaces him is the question. Rayner? Streeting? Mahmood? Burnham? Corbyn?!
which one of those is working class?
I'd prefer someone rather than Starmer...Rayner might be popular within labour but not so much across the country, and not sure if Burnham can or wants it. But also, a new leader might help Reform more in that they can same same old chaos, just like Tories before them etc.
even at next general election if he's still there?
Not sure he still is in hotel...?
yeah...but that better deal with France...who's government is about to collapse...
thought it went up a level when one of the asylum seekers was arrested for sexual offences in July...that's certainly when it became news.
because there weren't protests outside this hotel last summer?
They'll love that in twitterland
Like this Epping appeal judge bloke. Dull, unemotional and intelligent. More of this sort of thing please. #Epping
Jesus
Who will be our Yeltsin?
Very interesting interview with Some Somalian bloke in the Bell hotel in Epping just now on Radio4 PM #R4PM #Radio4. I wish whoever it was the best of luck.
they were desperate for riots this summer, now they're desperate for financial implosion this autumn.
Don't be sorry...all interesting
yep. Thye also just said Rwanda wouldn't work. Ethics and morality doesn't get a look in, because the working class don't care about any of that apparently.
They could talk about the great job they're doing with the economy
Asylum is processed in France? Those not accepted stay in France? That might be hard for France to accept. But a Europe wide deal might work, but still not easy.
safe routes from where? France? Everywhere? These things are very easy to say...not so easy to do.
Do better
oh yeah great
hopefully Labour have fucked the finances good and proper by the time Reform get in. Seems to be working so far....
and I'm sure the government would prefer there to be something else on the news rather than this...because it is one of the big reasons that Reform are on course to win the next election.
is it? What about the Boris wave? It's gone up since brexit/covid.
ok...well...not sure it's Labour who are putting it on the news every day. But, I get your point.
Well the people coming in on small boats bothers a lot of people. It needs some sort of solution. But yes Labour never criticised the Tory Rwanda plan because inhumane, they just said it wouldn't work.
I wouldn't be surprised if ECHR got rewritten anyway, and we'll start denying asylum to anyone arriving here on small boats. The big problem then becomes what do you do with people who do still arrive
Don't disagree. But they're terrified of looking soft on migration.
might be the end of Starmer as PM if happens.
terrific
maybe because it actually looks like Reform could form the next government?
The parties on the centre and left really need to stop trying to defeat each other and coordinate to stop this at next election.
bless you
or voted Stein, like my brother did...and then constantly complains about Trump.
yes but she wasn't progressive and left wing enough or something like that
Are there more protests, just with fewer people?
the radio station?
But look where they're coming from, Afghanistan, Syria etc. People are fleeing whatever, and we have some responsibility.
Legend
Need to speed up processing to clear current backlog, then somehow come up with some Europe wide solution, which might mean changes to ECHR, but also an acceptance that this isn't going away.
How many went to Ikea? (apart from me)
and how much it actually raises is debatable.
I mean...does that get her cash fast? Will take a lot of time and bureaucracy to sort out
Phwoar
Yes, agreed. I actually feel like leaving the country at the moment.
He's amazing. It will be 100 wars by christmas.
maybe because popular with voters?
Phwoar look at those chips
jesus wept. What is happening to us?
It isn't sustainable though, right? Government already said they were going to stop use of hotels by end of parliament.
it's on the news all the bloody time.
yeah, it really is. Feels like it's time to leave tbh.
bit ott
Bold
that would go down well with cost of living etc
Oh...so there's actual people in there?
They're moving fast before the UN general assembly thing in September.
turns out is wasn't a very good idea kicking out Corbyn and other left wingers and then going after Reform voters.
Yeah...look at the US where all those lefties couldn't vote for Harris because she wasn't progressive enough or that Biden was shit over Israel...
