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As someone who grew up in 1980s I can’t stress enough how “small” life *felt*. This isn’t a bad thing it had lots of good things but a world with 4 TV channels, no cheap flights, internet/smart phones in a small town everyone who didn’t go to uni simply had kids by their late teens/early 20s.
Phil - podcasts for clubs offer focussed analysis by people who often specialise in only 1 or 2 teams - newspaper articles are done hurriedly by journalists who need click traffic to keep jobs. You should know this! Football is same as politics. People buy newspapers for opinion bait - not news.
What if… Your dog doesn’t really want you to bring the ball back to him….but simply considers you need the fun, sport, excitement & comradeship that you so obviously lack in your life as you return home weary from work everyday just to sit & stare at a coloured box.
Brutal.
Not so much racist as kind of stupid. If you have enough money, qualifications & motivation as a foreigner to graduate from a UK university you’re likely to be a big plus for the UK - a country where the state cost of educating a child to 18 is £100k & birth rate is hurtling towards 1 per family.
The Yalta conference on LSD.
5. War with Venezuela
Yep. Far, far more interesting AND informative would be the net spend or profit comparison across the leagues. If the £3billion all stayed within PL - obviously it didn’t - then nobody really need worry about the figure at all.
What if… Your dog doesn’t really want you to bring the ball back to him….but simply considers you need the fun, sport, excitement & comradeship that you so obviously lack in your life as you return home weary from work everyday just to sit & stare at a coloured box.
Guehi made it quite clear months ago he was happy to see out his contract. I’m not even a Palace fan but he strikes me as a top lad. If Liverpool really wanted Guehi they could have negotiated properly & early and not waited to the last minute to squeeze extra cash from an already good deal.
There’s 2 ages where we cost a country money 1. The 1st 18 years (post)natal/education costs 2. Last 10 years care costs Between these 2 ages we are nearly all pretty profitable for a country. Literally anyone from anywhere with a degree is a catch for the UK. Madness.
I really can’t take this concern over falling birth rates seriously while the price of the 3 bed semi detached council house my unskilled park attendant grandad paid the equivalent of £35 a week for 40 years… …now costs £400k. & my (working) nephew + girlfriend & child lives with mother in law.
Indeed. Im also old enough to remember when the idea of Brexit - or Brixit as it was then called - was considered so mad that Conservative Party & much of the media treated it as a sign of madness. Many conservatives simply contented themselves with arguing for an opt out of the euro system.
Could be but in a list of things/ Age Mood/mental well being Fitness Diet Alcohol/drugs Relationship Cultural upbringing Are all likely to be more important
Oh and btw was it insane for Liverpool to get £ 7 million for letting TAA go to Real Madrid a few weeks early? Palace don’t exist to serve Liverpool’s transfer schedule. If 50 million is what palace quoted then that was the price.
For all us nice liberal middle class people while we are ridiculing the flag nonsense. Sure we are on the right side. But also if societies are drained of meaning, moral purpose a common understanding of where we’re going… ..then people will search for it in other, oft extremely unhelpful ways.
Nope. Literally every Palace fan knows there were talks months ago - exactly as with Newcastle. With Newcastle they bunged on an extra 20million just in time. With Guehi they didn’t. In any case if CP are top 10 & still in conf league come January it’ll probably have been worth holding Guehi.
As I said before Liverpool low balled offer so badly that if Palace have a really good year with Guehi in PL & conf-leave it might actually not be such a bad move simply to hold on to Guehi for year or till mid Jan. I mean they might even be able to sell him to Madrid come January.
It’s up to palace to do what they want to do. Guehi been 100% clear: he won’t go on strike & more than happy to see out contract. If Liverpool can’t get deal done that’s fine. Maybe they’ll get him for free or cheap in January. Price offered by Pool means it might make sense to hold Guehi for year.
Literally no one is saying this. Palace & Liverpool had early talks months ago. Exactly as with their Isak dealings Liverpool made a low bid then wanted Guehi to create a stink to get move. Guehi didn’t. Liverpool then waited late to try & force Palace’s hand. It all came in late - too late.
Done that. youtube.com/shorts/npX42...
Phil - podcasts for clubs offer focussed analysis by people who often specialise in only 1 or 2 teams - newspaper articles are done hurriedly by journalists who need click traffic to keep jobs. You should know this! Football is same as politics. People buy newspapers for opinion bait - not news.
Palace are running a healthy profit on transfers - one of very few PL clubs that are. Obviously if Guehi goes on a free/reduced fee in 2026 this will be income forgone BUT if Palace are in mid table safety & doing well in conf-league by January this might not look like such a bad deal…
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Nope. Guehi has expressed several times that he’d be happy to see out his contract. It was up to Liverpool to get the deal done and not try and wait to last minute to squeeze out a lower fee just because he had one year left.
Palace are running a healthy profit on transfers - one of very few PL clubs that are. Obviously if Guehi goes on a free/reduced fee in 2026 this will be income forgone BUT if Palace are in mid table safety & doing well in conf-league by January this might not look like such a bad deal…
Liverpool had the whole summer to get deal done but Guehi with less than a year to go on contract Liverpool pushed it too far to squeeze fee lower. If Liverpool win the league & get him on a free in June they’ll be happy. If not they’ll have screwed up.
Reaction to Liverpool Game is so weird. Arsenal received alot of criticism for “cautious play, set piece reliance & few chances” but both teams were cautious & created similar chances. Liverpool won on set piece. ®ardless who’s playing - home teams tend to attack more. Liverpool were at home.
Simple explanation for this. Guehi less than a year on contract & wanted Liverpool move. Liverpool wouldn’t be the first club to try to force a selling club to lower fee due to this. The mistake they made was pushing it so hard so late to enable palace to concede gracefully & get replacement.
There’s actually a smart, dare I say it English, way to do this where Starmer talks jokingly about getting out the england flag out for the recent wonens football championship. But this isn’t it. He sounds like an uncle talking about liking “black hiphop” in front of the kids.
Entitlement off the charts. Crystal Palace does not exist to serve you. Liverpool had a summer to do the deal. Why did they wait till last second.
The important question is not seeing Trump but rather when was he last allowed in front of the cameras to say something?
Beware nihilists from both left and right. It’s too important to make this about Starmer - whatever one thinks of his performance so far.
I don’t think people get quite what a dangerous moment this is in time. I supported Starmer as an antidote to the chaos of Brexit years. He needs to do more than that. It’s perhaps time to think of a more general coalition govt of anti-fascist parties.
The premise of your thread is wrong.
This is more common than people imagine. I did this in my late teens. Its often not even really lying. Sometimes an anecdote is exagerrated slightly, the anecdote then further discussed till it becomes part of your repitoire. Then 6 years later you find yourself believing it yourself.
"Newcastle gained nothing from being stubborn with Liverpool!" Well they gained 20 Million pounds and hindered Liverpool playing Isak against them for the price of 1 months of Isak's wages. Not a bad return for being stubborn.
Just how bad must Ten Hag’s training sessions & behaviour have been if he’s sacked after just 3 games - only 1 of which they lost?
It’s not just that. As you’d expect with 400 years of interaction, a whole community Anglo-Indians who literally fused culture & cuisine in India then the migration in million to UK there are in fact many UK-India fused foods in Britain.
🎼 Ain’t got no Saliba to defend the reds Don’t worry - Hincapie Ain’t got no Ben White to save the day Don’t worry - Hincapie
It’s nice to see a straight up manager not playing silly media games. Slot always comes across well regardless of the result.
You’re increasingly likely to find well written sober comment on many Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham & Man Utd dedicated blogs/podcasts… ..and the knee jerk clickbait on online newspapers like the guardian or Telegraph. It use to be the exact opposite.
Why? You know deep down you really want to…
(Sigh) Ronay isn’t a football journalist. It’s not even clear he knows/like the game much. His articles’ product is…himself. It’s a mix of clickbait & 6th form schtick pretentiousness. You’re better off listening to a mix of Liverpool & Arsenal podcasts-each club has at least 3 high quality ones.
You don’t like seeing the world from the perspective of an out of breath Manchurian’s chest?
Once you realise that Barney Ronay isn’t a football journalist but rather a click bait merchant for middle class football fans it all makes sense. Avoid reading his articles and don’t listen to him on guardian football weekly and it gets easier.
Yep. I’d go further Liew & Ronay in particular aren’t actually football writers. It’s not even clear to me they like or know the sport. As their constant derailment of football weekly shows. It’s just clickbait dressed up as 6th form pretentious & obtuseness.
I mean if there was one club that could’ve resisted it was a Saudi owned club but in the end it would’ve been self defeating. I mean you could’ve held off to January but I’m not sure it would have brought anything.
Ultimately it was down to the player. If Haarland refused to play for anyone but Newcastle - city would likely sell him at this price too.
You’re increasingly likely to find well written sober comment on many Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham & Man Utd dedicated blogs/podcasts… ..and the knee jerk clickbait on online newspapers like the guardian or Telegraph. It use to be the exact opposite.
My interactions with polish people taught me several things about them. But mainly they are: 1. Super hospitable 2. Vey fair 3. Influenced by Catholicism 4. Patriotic I’ve got a feeling Piotr Szczerek is about to find out that cap is going to be very very expensive.
Yep that’s why weekends were invented. Because too many people were unhappy that their bosses stopped them from doing what works for them and working weekends and late.
Yep. I’d go further Liew & Ronay in particular aren’t actually football writers. It’s not even clear to me they like or know the sport. As their constant derailment of football weekly shows. It’s just clickbait dressed up as 6th form pretentious & obtuseness.
Once you realise that Barney Ronay isn’t a football journalist but rather a click bait merchant for middle class football fans it all makes sense. Avoid reading his articles and don’t listen to him on guardian football weekly and it gets easier.
Yup - pointless, uninformative and lazy, which is why I avoid that commercial rubbish at all costs. I get 10x more insight from someone level headed and genuinely informed like @charleswatts.bsky.social than anyone on Sky or other sensationalist attention seekers
There are thousands of working class sport journalists who never get the breaks. Barney Ronay is a middle class writer who doesn’t know football, doesn’t explain or even write about football. His product is himself. A mix of click bait & phrases he shoehorns into articles. It’s getting tiresome.
Liverpool had less attacks & chances than Arsenal. They beat Arsenal due to a set piece. That’s fine. That’s football. Nothing for Liverpool to be ashamed of. This column tho is. The worst type of entitled middle class idiot stealing a living with knee jerk stupidity. Just dressed up Clickbait.
The guardian football section sounds increasingly like what football journalism would sound like if it was written by reform party members. Please @maxrushden.bsky.social stop having this idiot on your otherwise excellent podcast.
This is why I won’t be voting Bill Clinton in 2028.
To be strictly fair to pundits.. Had Arsenal scored a set piece goal in the last 10minutes the very same ones should now be raving about “Arteta’s plan perfectly executed” and a “toothless Liverpool team stuttering”. It’s just the way sports journalism works.
Every supermarket that sells bread in UK sells sliced white bread. The whole sourdough craze was mostly about home baking during Covid. What Alex is saying is that she detests the existence of any other type of bread. You’re right it’s really about something else.
Looks like it’s going to be £125 million. Still a pretty tidy sum.
Apparently “leading” lawyers and “experts” say that the Good Friday Agreement is no obstacle to UK leaving ECHR. Me, being neither, merely sets out what the Good Friday Agreement expressly says. davidallengreen.com/2023/07/why-...
Nuno is going isn’t he? The defeat against West Ham is just the excuse needed.
I didn’t miss the point. I just chose to answer a silly post with light humour. Foods too nice to argue over. One of my best culinary experiences was actually in New Orleans. I wish you a nice dinner this evening.
Much underrated is haggis - also worth trying “haggis Bon bons” with whiskey. BTW the originator of the thread blocked me after I provided 9 Indian dishes invented in UK if you are wondering why I’m no longer taking part in the discussion. 😀
I’m just dreaming of trying smoked sausage and grilled scallops.
We can now look forward to “Vardy goal with an assist from Mussolini” popping up on our screens.
Of course the most important question now is: When you were in Liverpool did you try Scouse and wet Nelly? 😀
Tbh I’m pretty extreme about pizza anyway. Unless I’m really sure of a place I only eat it in Italy. Too many disappointments.
Somebody needs to give Elliot a large glass of red wine. Be thankful you at least didn’t have Gary Neville on co-coms as we did…
..because it’s social media Elliot….
1. Don’t wish anyone ill. 2. Sometimes things aren’t what they seem.
1. Coffee 2. Trump But mostly coffee.
This is a very strange conversation. We talk about this all the time. And we haven’t even got into Scottish cuisine which has a population the size of a US city. Either you have very strange British friends or they are a figment of your imagination.
You could always simply google “Indian dishes invented in UK”. I’ll make it easy for you - I literally studied 3 steers away from where “Balti” was invented.
Yep Britain famously has no immigrant populations, has never had food traditions fusing or cross influences.
Well then in that case your original post makes even less sense. Britons 400 year relationship with India (for example) has resulted in countless spiced infused dishes you simply don’t get in India like chicken Tikka Masala - considered by some UKs national dish. .
This post gets funnier the more times you read it. Literally no one ate smoked sausage before the Americans invented it.
It always amuses me how Americans claim food that other cultures and nations have spent centuries eating, developing & celebrating and then claim as their own.
I often think Arteta is not so much Wenger’s heir but a cross between Moyes and Guardiola….
I would have brought on Eze a bit earlier but it’s pretty standard to not start a player in such a big match if he’s only signed a few days earlier. & don’t worry this isn’t twitter, we all love you really we’re at most just gently tweaking your beard here….
Sancho plus cash for Martinez is the rumour that’s circulating now. Possibly with Sancho on loan with option. A downgrade for Villa if it happens. A massive upgrade in keeper for Utd while sacrificing a player who wasn’t going to play for them anyway.
Why did Declan Rice switch from in-swinger to out-swinger corners? Didn’t seem to work and even if it’s good to “mix things up a bit” Rice could have in-swung a couple…?
I wonder how many palace fans are secretly hoping that a Vila play injures Guehi…?
If you’re saying Arsenal could’ve risked more then I agree. But the corner count, dominance in midfield & success of Madueke suggests at very least the team more than matched Liverpool. If Arsenal had won with such a late brilliant free kick I don’t think most Liverpool fans would have complained.
Without 3 key players for much of game Arsenal were clearly better for circa 55 minutes away from home. Beaten only by one of the best free kicks you’ll see this season. Unlucky. We now have 2 of our trickiest away games out of the way & players should be back after the break.
Sancho plus cash for Martinez is the rumour that’s circulating now. Possibly with Sancho on loan with option. A downgrade for Villa if it happens. A massive upgrade in keeper for Utd while sacrificing a player who wasn’t going to play for them anyway.
Only partially true, she also plays in the Newcastle forward line.
Playing Merino with Odegaard & Nwaneri on the bench = going for a draw. Nothing wrong with that.
Only partially true, she also plays in the Newcastle forward line.
Not being pedantic (really!) but VAR & tech side works well. Offside, goal line tech, exact replays etc But VAR as in referees less so. If you need 5 minutes review & to go back & decidet if an accidental footstep is *maybe* a foul then quite clearly its not "a clear and obvious error".
Yep.
“40 years out of date” is the go to description for anything about me generally.
Nope. The main reason is the average time of a prospective country to join EU is 7years and considering EU likes new members to have a general national consensus in favour of joining & UK doesn’t have this - it’s likely to take longer. We use to make fun of brexiters for denying reality….
1. Jason 2. Wayne 3. Kevin
“You do not want to see what they’ve done to your bathroom…”
As an arsenal fan I’m supposed to now deride Xavi Simons signing. But he is without doubt one on the most exciting young players out there. I don’t know why Spurs didn’t have more competition for him this summer when other players were hyped up. The fee is modest too. Maybe I’ve missed something.
I never get these takes. Great sex is what you want with your partner now. Being nostalgic about early days of relationship is totally fine, even romantic - but missing the sex is like missing the starter when you have to order the main course. Just have the starter again - no one’s stopping you.
I like many in UK, am at heart a conservative. I like good manners, less swearing on tv, clean town centres with proper shops, public life with standards etc. I also understand there is no party 100% for my views. It also partly explains why I’ve only voted Labour, LibDems & Green since the 1990s.