He had his gun out prior to his arm being vaporized and had been moving toward Rittenhouse. He could have shot him several times.
He had his gun out prior to his arm being vaporized and had been moving toward Rittenhouse. He could have shot him several times.
Thats not what happened.
Depends on the bullet. Thats what actually matters and not the semantics you are using. That bullet was designed to kill humans in war. Period.
Fun Fact
Fof example as one of the arguments I listed, EO 14160 which is blatantly unconstitutional. This guy pretends to care about the letter of the law, yet Im assuming hes fine with this unconstitutional order.
He didnt shoot and could have. Im guessing he wasnt a pro like Kyle having just shot two people with no empathy whatsoever. For normal humans, its hard to pull the trigger, even when you know you should.
He didnt try to call 911. Ive been in shocking situations and I called 911. Particularly the time I was tboned and still managed to immediately call the police. I didnt call my friend I bought my car from and say, "I just probably killed someone, lawls."
Ah yes, the 556 bullet meant to kill small rodents....not to kill humans and it certainly wasnt standardized by NATO forces and totally isnt a near identical to the 223. Those tiny little bullets are just to have fun with and arent used for war. Ever.
I was referring to other arguments the guy wont address cause hell get cooked. Not referring to Rittenhouse.
I'll Kiss. 1. A child having a weapon of war. Bad. 2. A child having a weapon of war at riot. Bad 3. A child having a weapon of war at a riot, not his property, bad. 4. Kyle called a friend saying he killed Rosenbaum, but not medical care. Bad 5. Gross* could have shot him. He didnt.
Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that.
That being said, he won the case and is walking around a free man. Its the moral argument Im making. I certainly would not want my son doing this, nor would I allow it.
This entire time ive conceded he "won" the court case, I just dont agree with 2 things. 1. The original statute WAS intended for hunting. What sense would it make otherwise? 2. The cops in the community clearly had a bias and Kyles posts prior to the shooting show ill intent at best.
No, you wont be goaded because youd be cooked. In all of the things ive mentioned, i have a stronger case than Rittenhouse. I have the constitution
Cool story bro
Because its anecdotal and Im not evsn sure. I accept it. I just dont care.
Because he never should have been there. You know this. I know this. If that were yoyr lid, would you say you did a good job parenting?? Would you advise your child to go to a riot with weapon of war?
There was evidence, just none youd accept. Ill agree he got away with it. But hes EXTREMELY lucky to be alive.
Agreed. The National guard in LA, the EO revoking birthright citizenship, trumps conviction of rape(as said by the judge), trump falsifying documents, his illegal tariffs....those laws dont care about your feelings either. It is what it is.
Its a provocation to many people regardless of law. Do there here or close by in Memphis, the law wont save you buddy. Im just trying to express the reality of the issue.
Sure thing bud.
It contradicts reality. Watch videos. Him saying more people than not is silly. Also Rittenhouse was friends with many of those officers before the incident...wasnt he like a trainee? I take the word of cops like the word of politicians. Hes telling us not to believe our lying eyes.
I disagree. Well have to agree to disagree. Its a provocative action and will get you shot where Im from. You can point to laws all day long, but open carry around here and the law isnt going to save you. Thats just life.
Yes i do. Common sense. 99.9% of the people there had no weapons. The only people that died had weapons or were killed by people with weapons. Weird. Unless someone overdosed or got ran over that im unaware of. Point being, dont go to a riot. If you do, conceal carry. Dont be a jackass.
gun...guess what? He wouldnt need to fear. Rosenbaum didnt attack all those other folks carrying assault weapons. I wonder why? Almost like Rittenhouse goaded him?
Yes. I am. Dads raise pussies these days. Instead of showing them the ropes and how to defend themselves, they are lazy and give them guns. If Rittenhouse got his ass beat, hed have learned a lesson here. Instead, he felt he needed to kill the guy in fear hed take his gun. If he didnt have a
How is republican controlled legislature who decided they didnt want to enshrine the original intent into law AFTER the trial, me being wrong. Even odder way to say you are right.
Laat I checked this trial happened 4 years ago? I wasnt so invested in this trial because I thought he was a piece of shit, or at best, a kid with terrible parents.
Its not ok, sure. But it will happen. In my opinion its not ok to walk around brandishing a weapon of war. If you are that big of a pusse, go grab a small caliber gun. As my dad said, "If you open carry, you better be ready to use it, because everyone around you knows you have it."
They werent unprovoked. Thats what you dont get. Him carrying the gun was a provocation. What happened to men? Everyone is such a pusse they have to carry guns around. If they were illegal here, this shit wouldnt happen.
Ah, I see the confusion. I didnt realize I said that. Yes he crossed state lines. Yes, he had a gun. Yes he lied about that in court and said it was at a friends house. (Black maybe?)..I believe the "proof" that it was in Kenosha was the receipts to buy it. I dont trust his word. Sorry
What happened after the trial is irrelevant. It just means wisconsin has republican leaders, who value guns over lives.
This is actually new to me.
If he didnt have a weapon and Kyle knee how to fight, he could have just beat his ass. But he never would have been targeted had he not been carrying the gun....so.
I never said he wasnt legally in the right on this point. Quit making assumptions. Yes, the guy threw a paper bag at him. Yes he ran at him and threatened him. Maybe he would have died by another minor carrying a rifle designed to kill humans. Still immoral. Learn to fight before carrying.
Yes im going armed to my secondary and tertiary communities next week due to the increased crime in DC(actually decreased 40%). Worked there, had friends there, give me a break. If you are going to a riot carrying a gun, you better be prepared to lay your life down.
When did i speak on this?
Irrelevant
If he does it again, theyll carry his trial out in the street.
No he didnt. You dont walk down inner streets brandishing a rifle like that. And i hate to say it..especially if you are a 95lb white boy. That is asking to get killed. If he didnt expect to get attacked, hes a fucking idiot.
His messages prior to going is intent.
He posted beforehand on facebook and through texts about kenosha. He knee Kenosha hated proud boys. He knew prior to going carrying the firearm would likely spell trouble. He did it anyway. Im the one that cited the exact statute and the original intent of the statue as verified by said writers.
No i didnt. It is no different than an AR except by semantics. I own more guns thab you, I promise. A hair pin trigger and practice can make mode irrelevant. What makes you think i didnt know his connection to Kenosha? Because I dog walked you into saying something incorrect?
I wasnt. Morally wrong. Yes. He went there knowing hed probably be attacked. He wanted to be attacked so he could fire his weapon. If he didnt, well hes lucky he didnt win a Darwin award that day.
Its almost like he intentionally provoked the attack. At worse, he was "ignorant". Either way, its hard to claim self defense when you go to a riot with a gun full of people who dont take to to well to authoritarian actions. But well have to agree to disagree.
Ah yes, that old trope. Do you know much about Kenosha and many of the communities hate for proud boys and police in general. Kyle knew. He sent texts and losted about it. A young white child larping as a proud boy with a weapon intended to kill people down streets of people who despise him.
I got more specific than the news. And i was still correct. He did a morally bad thing. Put himself in a bad situation where he had to use his "gun" to defend himself. If Mel Gibson from Lethal Weapon 3 had that sign on his body walking down the road and shot anyone who attacked him...same thing
Just having trouble wrapping my mind around a someone with morals while defending someone who did a grossly immoral act. Apologies.
Both
Not sure. But the republican wet dream is upon you guys. The military taking over cities. Ive heard for 20 years how these white beta males would fight the govt if they took over. Crickets. Weird. Rittenhouse would have been morally correct standing up to the military occupying cities.
Yup. Dipshit army seems to follow Trump
If he were at one, youve failed as a father, especially in this case. He wouldnt need to defend himself if he werent a dipshit larping as an adult with a gun. It would have never happened. Just like Jan 6 would have never happened if Trump didnt lie about losing the election
Would you allow your 17 yr old child to cross state lines with a gun to attend a riot he has no reason or cause to be part of? Even if he had cause? Would you allow it? If so, they need to go to DC. The republican wet dream of govt forces taking over city streets. Hed be justified now.
Thats why you are maga. You are willing to do mental gymnastics for a law that clearly wasnt intended for what this child got away with. Prove me wrong. Do you think the EJC case was justified in the indictment of DJT?
True to the letter of the law ignoring the nuance. Its funny how maga is letter of the law when they like a decision, but ignore the outcome or disagree when dislike it. AKA EJC case. AKA falsifying business records. The fact of the matter is, Rittenhouse created the conditions for the event.
Because republicans are horrible people, yes. They want more children to die, I guess. If i were on the jury, id have convicted or it would have been hung. Hes lucky.
True, thats why the E Jean Carrol case is is even easier to argue and has a bigger foot to stand on.. It doesnt use loopholes. The reason it was voted down is due to republican control. Thats it. Still a loophole. Just like the second amendment itself.
Exactly. Would have love to have seen the mental gymnastics.
No he was legally armed according to the law. He should not have been armed. The case law was written for hunting, not for riots. Sure its poorly worded, but it is a loophole and you damn well know it. Since you are so hard core on interpretation of the law, whats your thoughts on the 2nd amend?
Do you think the law was intended for a 17 yr old to have a gun at a riot? Just curious.
Are you pro life then?
So im guessing ur fine with Trump being convicted of rape in the the EJC case. He was found guilty by his peers and the judge on case law. He penetrated her vagina with his fingers against her will. Proven. Convicted. 9 jurors unanimously convicted him..
The amendment in its entirety was for hunting. The only reason for children having a gun ws for hunting. It wasnt for shooting someone that tossed a paper bag at you.
Yeah im just better looking.
Hes a child. He cant fight. He cant vote. Yet hes allowed to go to a riot with a gun? Even tho the law was meant for hunting?
So if a judge were to interpret the second amendment and say its for militias and not individual use....Can u tell me what mental gymnastics youd be prepared to go through? Lets use ur logic to interpret the second amendment.
Yup the exception was for hunting as the writers of the legislation came out and said
So he said
It wasnt his community. Lets be real. If he didnt care a gun like a dipshit he wouldnt be attacked. Thats dumb at best and certainly irresponsible. He created the conditions for the shootings. He wanted to be cool and walk down the road larping like a proud boy. It was morally wrong.
I dont know if you are being dishonest, so ill humor you. 948.60 was originally intended as amendment to allow for hunting. Thats why shortbarrels werent allowed. I would say common sense....did you think they intended the law for children to go to riots?
On top of that I made a moral argument. And in that, I am 100% correct. You are using a legal loophole to conclude Rittenhouse was in the right.
Only someone so willfully ignorant to condone Rittenhouses actions, would be MAGA. I understand the laws better than you and it was intended for hunting. The exception wasnt intended for children going to riots. The judges misinterpretation of the law is the issue.
You should make more declarative statements without evidence. Very maga of you.
I didnt know kids could open carry. This coming from the party that thinks kids seeing gay people makes them gay. But you are totally fine with kids going to riots with guns. Make it make sense.
I know Kyle wouldnt have killed him. He has no business there.
Terrible analogy. Child walking down the street trying to be cool with a "long barreled" gun. Basically all that was missing was a sign asking to have his ass kicked. Would you want your child doing this?
The semantics of whether its semi-auto is irrelevant. With a hairpin trigger there are people that can fire just as fast as some full auto weapons. If that dipshit wasnt there with a gun, would Rosenbaum have attacked him? Im guessing no. Thats why he has no culpability.
Sorry, he was 17. Kyle Rittenhouse was in possession of a Smith & Wesson M&P 15, an AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle, on the night of the Kenosha shootings. He was 17 years old at the time. Do you live under a rock?
If you think an 18 yr old, who didnt live in the city, should be carrying an assault rifle on dangerous streets, I dont know what to tell you. He wasnt helping anyone. If he werent there, those people wouldnt have died. I have a right to burn the flag in the road, but its probably a bad idea.
I didnt say I had anything against him. I correctly said he went to a protest to LARP with his shitty gun. He had NO business being there and if it were my son, Id disown him. But, he didnt technically break any laws. Hes still a dipshit kid who had no reason to be there with a gun.
The republican wet dream. If Biden had done this, this would be the MAGA wet dream...Finally they can LARP with their shitty guns like Kyle Rittenhouse. They could pretend to fight for the US. Yet they are fine with their god king being a fascist.
The democrats WERE the republicans in that time. They were racist, strong state rights supporters, and they represented the wealthy land owners, not the working class. This all flipped post civil war and industrial revolution. Consider it like Freaky Friday ;).
Pretty sure they just killed the rest of the journalist.
There were 2 - 2.1 million Palestinians trapped in GAZA before the genocide began. Now there are 1.5 to 1.6 million. Not hard to count people when ALL of theirs homes were destroyed and have 0 shelter.
So killing 400k people(300k women and children) isnt genocide? Thats a fifth of the population. When does it become a genocide? Or are you Qanon and dont believe that the earth is round?
The people on X. Admittedly so by many of them. Theyve been mask off for quite some time now.
So far its 400 Palestinians for every Israeli.
Thats like watching a MMA match and asking why everyone is talking about punching in the nuts after one fighter punched another in the nuts. The democratic philosophy of "When they go low, we go high" isnt and has never worked. It had as much viability as trickle down economics.
Yeah Im thinking this is the best time for anyone to run for congress(2026). Wed elect a potato over whats happening. If we had to vote for a socialist, muslim, transgender man or woman, wed vote them in over a maga and certainly Trump. It would also be hilarious. Truly a win.
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